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The SH4 Gen2 is HD glass, so it's not bad at all. Especially for a $450 scope. Through my eyes, it's better than my $1,000 MSRP Vortex HS-T scopes, and it's right beside my new Vortex Strike Eagle 5-25x56 EBR-7C.So what's everyone's experience with the EP4? I'm assuming it's the same Japanese glass as the new EP5? Seems like a worthwhile upgrade from the SH model.
The 4-16 ep4 is a better scope than the sh4 4-16. Better turrets and glass.So what's everyone's experience with the EP4? I'm assuming it's the same Japanese glass as the new EP5? Seems like a worthwhile upgrade from the SH model.
Same. I'm more than satisfied with my SH4's, but I still want an EP5 to compare.For $200 less than the Ep5, I'm still satisfied with my SH4 Gen 2 purchase. Hell of a scope @$349! If I can sell my Trijicon Accupoint 5-20×50mm, I'm getting 2 more of the SH4'S.
Considering your thread here probably yielded them 100+sales, least they could do is comp you a new ep5 & an honorary "employee of the month" t-shirtSame. I'm more than satisfied with my SH4's, but I still want an EP5 to compare.
This is true!Considering your thread here probably yielded them 100+sales, least they could do is comp you a new ep5 & an honorary "employee of the month" t-shirt
I bow to your superiority.
Well shit, tell them…Considering your thread here probably yielded them 100+sales, least they could do is comp you a new ep5 & an honorary "employee of the month" t-shirt
39 ounces, that thing is a tank.
32 mils of travel. It’s so damn tempting.
That first run though….
Wonder if their caps will stretch enough to fit the new ep5 56mm bell ??lens caps
...most likely, don't believe they would offer is as an add-on option to the EP5 if fitment was an issue as that would be a negative PR blunder. It could also be that they have a new EP5 specific set of caps.Wonder if their caps will stretch enough to fit the new ep5 56mm bell ??
I ask because it was a tight fit stretching over the 50mm objective. Just looked at specs again, says cap fits up to 59mm. Should be GTG....most likely, don't believe they would offer is as an add-on option to the EP5 if fitment was an issue as that would be a negative PR blunder. It could also be that they have a new EP5 specific set of caps.
I ask because it was a tight fit stretching over the 50mm objective
LOL, ...that PayPal tune is getting louder in my ears, singing its seductive siren song to me...Well, I took the plunge and ordered a EP5, had to see what it's all about. I wanted to try a EP4 a while back and never could find one. Probably put this thing on a CTR 260 and see how it does...
No shit! I'd sell my Vortex in a heartbeat if they made a 20-60x80 or 20-80x80 spotter with the ED glass.They should now start making spotter scopes.
I ask because it was a tight fit stretching over the 50mm objective. Just looked at specs again, says cap fits up to 59mm. Should be GTG.View attachment 7765981
LOL, ...that PayPal tune is getting louder in my ears, singing its seductive siren song to me...
...I do like the thought that I could have the same reticle in 2 different magnification ranges on 2 different caliber platforms to decrease any translation issues/errors when transitioning from one to the other.
...it is a good rationalization to push me over
One guy said his CC bill mentioned it was for counseling. That might be a sign to order as much as possible.Still debating on what to put my Arkens on... I'll probably have to go down the rabbit hole to the safe and pull a bunch of rifles out and mull it over and mentally swap things around before making a decision.
Yes, my decision making process can be exhausting, not only for onlookers, but also for me as well. Being an INFJ that's how I rationalize, I work best when I can SEE how things will come together 100% before I even start loosening screws. Sometimes it can create massive mental blocks and severe procrastination when I seem to not be able to logically put 2 things together out of long-term lack. For example, if I like it too much, I lack the funds to replace all my others with Arkens, so they are all uniform, the reticles are the same, so are the turrets, and the familiarity is there, making transitioning between rifles less mental, and more natural.
Nobody else’s has said that though…I wonder how that got transcribed that way through the CC company? That’s weird.One guy said his CC bill mentioned it was for counseling. That might be a sign to order as much as possible.
That sucks, none of mine are like that. All 3 of mine are sharp as tacks... Yeah, I'd say something is definitely wrong with that one. They will probably let you upgrade to the new one for a few more bucks, especially since they sent you a used scope at new pricing.ok, i mentioned a page back, i was pretty sure the Arken i had just received and opened had been used and returned. Faint ring marks, body marks. But Thought what the hell i'll give it a try since i did find a pair of rings i had forgotten i had. Mounted it up, illuminated reticle wouldn't work,. tried 2 different batteries that i knew were good , still a no go. No illumination. Today was a beautiful bright sunny day, great day to shoot, Took it out , put it on the paper target at 100 yds , couldn't get a decent look no matter what i tried. Pretty hazey, no sharpness at all. Couldn't make out the holes in the paper from the 6.5SS i had just finished shooting. If this was the first one i had ordered, i would have never ordered another, but the first one was sharp as heck. I'll send them an email in the morning and see if i can add some extra dollars to it, send it back, and get one of the new ones that just came out. Hopefully they've got good CS. If not, i'll chalk it up to another learning experience and stay with NF , Kahles, Steiner, or order one of those new Zeiss's i've been wanting to try. It's been super hard passing on a couple of NF 7-35 mil-xt's that have been showing up in the px lately. Still the best scope i have hands down.
i don't expect it to stand up to the top tier scopes. I don't even expect it to stand alongside my mid tier scopes, but i do expect to see bullet holes on 24X at 100 yds on white paper. Like i mentioned, the first one i received was really sharp and i was impressed enough to order another. I've sent them an email and we'll see what goes. I'm sure they'll stand behind it.That sucks, none of mine are like that. All 3 of mine are sharp as tacks... Yeah, I'd say something is definitely wrong with that one. They will probably let you upgrade to the new one for a few more bucks, especially since they sent you a used scope at new pricing.
I wouldn't try to compare the glass to a Zeiss, Kahles, NF, or Steiner... But to each, his own... I wouldn't be too disappointed when a $550 scope doesn't stack up to a $4,500 scope.
Yeah, I'd shoot them an email. The email address I have that works and gets me responses within a few hours, is: [email protected] . The Guy I typically talk to is James Craig.
They should do you right... Keep us updated on here how it goes. I'm not brand-loyal. I started this thread to report the good, bad and ugly.i don't expect it to stand up to the top tier scopes. I don't even expect it to stand alongside my mid tier scopes, but i do expect to see bullet holes on 24X at 100 yds on white paper. Like i mentioned, the first one i received was really sharp and i was impressed enough to order another. I've sent them an email and we'll see what goes. I'm sure they'll stand behind it.
Fuk that! After sending you a DAMAGED USED/RETURNED scope, throw a shitfit & demand a new ep5 upgrade!see if i can add some extra dollars to it, send it back, and get one of the new
nope, that ain't right. Mistakes happenFuk that! After sending you a DAMAGED USED/RETURNED scope, throw a shitfit & demand a new ep5 upgrade!
Yeah, same here. Normally I won't be a dick until the 2nd time they fuck something simple up. Then my Taurus horns come out.nope, that ain't right. Mistakes happen
That's a poor QC/CS blunder. Be like buying a couple cases of Pampers diapers for your twin 4 month old infants & the next order you made came in with the diapers being already SHIT in by somebody else's kids. I'd bitch.....nope, that ain't right. Mistakes happen
Grew up around a small business. I agree.I own 2 business's, mistakes happen. As an owner, if i make a mistake, i own up, try to please the customer and move on. I have a great customer base because of that and i sleep well at night
I'm sure with the EP5 drop yesterday, they've had quite the influx of orders...I put in an order for another 4x16 late sunday the 19th — no shipped email yet, still “awaiting processing”
I’m beginning to wonder. I know it’s only been 2 days but...
I ordered one on the 16th after I found out about the discount code. On the 17th I got an email with a tracking number that came back "label processed, waiting for item to arrive at USPS facility" (or something to that effect). Which stayed that way until Monday night, when all of a sudden it was at the local distribution facility. Got to the local PO early yesterday morning, was delivered around noon yesterday. Geez, what tank these things are! LOL Just looking it over, very impressed; hopefully it will hold up decent. Going to be visiting with my step son over the holidays, so we'll compare it to his Kahles and Bushnell DMR scopes, just for shits and giggles. I may have to order another before the discount goes away...just because...I put in an order for another 4x16 late sunday the 19th — no shipped email yet, still “awaiting processing”
I’m beginning to wonder. I know it’s only been 2 days but...
I put in an order for another 4x16 late sunday the 19th — no shipped email yet, still “awaiting processing”
I’m beginning to wonder. I know it’s only been 2 days but...
Covid has only made the USPS even MORE worthless than they already were.Mine showed up on my front porch without ever getting a tracking update.
That's on the US Postal Storage system not updating.