4-16x42 PM II. It has the PR Gen II Mil dot, so I'm not even sure if it was built by S&B. I heard somewhere that PR built the S&B's that had their reticles in them. These may have seen limited use use in service, but I think the one with Horus reticle were more common, and they weren't common either. As far as I know S&B doesn't make this model anymore. I was told this was a T&E scope, but I have no way to verify or care really. It's a great scope.
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Looking thru some of my sunshades, obviously one is not grooved, the other two are. Always just assumed they were MK4 m3 versions, with the interior threads at the muzzle end so they could be joined. But it appears none have real threads that could actually used, the original on the left and the middle, have a faint thread texture, the one on the right is completely smooth inside.
Managed to get ahold of an AE m24 suppressor. Should have pics of that before the new year and get form 4 started just in time for the eForms.
Also picked this up at the fun shop today. Getting closer…
Also picked this up at the fun shop today. Getting closer…
Can anyone confirm for me the front sight base is 8-40 screw thread ? I cant seem to get a hold of Ok webber.
PR built many 3-12's, 4-16's, and 5-25's in house, Germany would send parts and PR would build them. Mostly they got Gen 2 or Gen 2 XR reticles (4-16 and 5-25 only) but PR installed Horus reticles too. Horus would send several reticles but they were generally shit quality so you got what you got. There are pics of USMC Recon using some 4-16's with Horus reticles and an Army SMU used them, another government agency put in an order but I believe they switched at the last minute and got 5-25's. The crux of the 4-16 is its lack of elevation adjustment but otherwise it was an excellent scope.
I could definitely see this as an issue with any larger caliber than .308. For the .308, it seems just about perfect as it will get me out to ~1200yds.
Is that the one going through D Wilson? I can help ya out with some pics if it is
I am pretty sure they are 6-48 thread pitch, same as the rear sight base holes.
I'm pasting a link to the below thread on the Vintage Sniper page. There were some pictures there that I was looking for and couldn't find, so maybe it will help some others too:
That could be a pretty early receiver, my M24 was C658.... and it was built in 1991 according to Remington.
Earliest I've seen. My 24r is all initial issue except the barreled action. Tempted to build off this.
Long time lurker as well. Here's the beginnings of my build. Barrel blank is Rock Creek's M24 profile with the correct twist rate.
I still need the rest of the parts, including a bolt. Were they blued, jeweled, or stainless under the coating?
I still need the rest of the parts, including a bolt. Were they blued, jeweled, or stainless under the coating?
The NRA Museum serial number is higher!
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Just to be clear here folks before everyone gets too excited, the serial number range doesn't necessarily denote the date it was manufactured into a working firearm from Remington. The receivers are built in batches, serialized and then they're binned. Some of these receivers would be picked and taken into the Remington Custom Shop M24 line and assembled. The actual birthdate for the weapon is depicted on the barrel code. This is my 1988 M24 which was delivered to the Army either in the first lot of 100 in Oct 1988 or the second lot of 100 in December 1988.
Refer to this site to decode the weapon manufacture dates for nearly any Remington firearm. Remington Society of America
The bolt forward of the bolt handle was coated in dry film lube, the handle and the rear portion, the firing pin and housing, were powdercoated. The underside of the bolt handle has the serial number letter prefix and the last four of the serial number engraved (stamped) matching it to the receiver.
Are GAP rifles good clone builds?
Also, we have a line on a number of Rem 700 receivers, but not M24 marked. Were all M24 riles marked M24? Maybe these were M40. I understand there are a range that were bad and serial numbers that were good. This is a Remington batch of barreled receiverss.
Also, we have a line on a number of Rem 700 receivers, but not M24 marked. Were all M24 riles marked M24? Maybe these were M40. I understand there are a range that were bad and serial numbers that were good. This is a Remington batch of barreled receiverss.
M24 receivers would be marked "M24". M24's use long action receivers, M40-series rifles used a short action.
March 1992, USMC Lt. Col. Norman Chandler published Death From Afar Vol. 1. and documented all 995 Remington M40 serial numbers. He also listed every 10X Unertl scope ser.# & purchase date.
Remington Arms was sold off at bankruptcy auction Sept. 2020.
Records of the Remington M24 and Leupold M3a/Mk 4 need to be preserved.
Remington Arms was sold off at bankruptcy auction Sept. 2020.
Records of the Remington M24 and Leupold M3a/Mk 4 need to be preserved.
Very true. I wonder who has the Remington files now?
The M24 serial numbers should be able to be found through an FOIA request to the Army or DoD, unless they are still classified.
I have tried to ask some details from Leupold before without much luck, but I know they have the records.
The M24 serial numbers should be able to be found through an FOIA request to the Army or DoD, unless they are still classified.
I have tried to ask some details from Leupold before without much luck, but I know they have the records.
DOD Small Arms (excluding "Black Weapons") are documented in the DOD Small Arms Master Registry. Classified serials (including commercial buys) are handled separately. A FOIA request for M24 - M2010 conversion should get you what you want.
You may have to specify you want the numbers for United States military weapons, vice those bought through the Army under Foreign Military Sales / Foreign Military Grants, otherwise you'll get ALL of them. That might make for interesting reading, considering our friends and allies who bought them:
- Algerian People's National Army
- Bangladesh
- Brazilian Special Operations Brigade
- El Salvador
- Hungary: Bercsény László Különleges Műveleti Zászlóalj.
- Iraqi Army, Iraqi special forces, and Popular Mobilisation Units
- Israel Defense Forces
- Georgia
- JGSDF snipers, paratroopers of 1st Airborne Brigade, and Special Forces Group
- Kosovo
- Lebanon
- Philippine Army and Philippine Marine Corps
Decades ago I called John Unertl at his house hoping to get info on the 10X. His wife answered and basically told me to pound salt, they wouldn't give any info out due to the scope still being classified material. Same thing when I called Leupold asking for info about the M3alpha. At the time, it was an uncatalogued item not available to civilians. I went ahead and wrote a magazine article on it, but it lacked detailed info.
Sinister your suggestion of a FOIA request sounds good. Have you ever filed one previously? I'd like to try. Does it require some official reason to request the info?
Sinister your suggestion of a FOIA request sounds good. Have you ever filed one previously? I'd like to try. Does it require some official reason to request the info?
Nope. Send a request, get an answer. Plenty of guys have gotten them for the surplus/return Sig M17s lately.
Egyptian Special Forces with M24:
Would imagine it's the same set up as the IDF have/had. It's a thread on brake.
I have a higher OK Weber style front dovetail. I can toss it in the box that's going out today if you want it. I don't have a use for it. The rear should be on OK Weber's web site.
Just realized OkWebers site is gone. I was going to order the sights off there but waited to long.
Does anyone know what happened or why?
Does anyone know what happened or why?
He died a few years ago. His wife Ellen's been liquidating stock since.
Go to Champion's Choice in Tennessee.
Do you know what height you need to match your rear sight? This is 3/8 inch:
This is extended for a Redfield Olympic rear (screw holes match Winchester 70 and Remington 700 / M24):
This one's from Warner:
This is for the RPA rear sight:
There's another option to avoid a rear iron sight base, and that's to use an RPA or Centra rear sight for Picatinny rails -- they clamp directly to a Pic rail base:
Go to Champion's Choice in Tennessee.
Do you know what height you need to match your rear sight? This is 3/8 inch:
This is extended for a Redfield Olympic rear (screw holes match Winchester 70 and Remington 700 / M24):
This one's from Warner:
This is for the RPA rear sight:
There's another option to avoid a rear iron sight base, and that's to use an RPA or Centra rear sight for Picatinny rails -- they clamp directly to a Pic rail base:
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I have had luck with Outback Gun Parts as well
I stumbled across champions choice from the old M24 thread. Looks like theHe died a few years ago. His wife Ellen's been liquidating stock since.
Go to Champion's Choice in Tennessee.
Do you know what height you need to match your rear sight? This is 3/8 inch:
