Army M24 Build Thread

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rpq1968 said:
I'm looking for a Leopold Mark 3 Ultra, 10x40 fixed, Mildot, with a turret .308 168gn. Scope. Any ideas where I can track one down? Thanks for the advise in advance :)
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I've seen a few on Gunbroker and Ebay over the last twelve months. Generally they've been in the $1100-$1500 price range for the fixed 10x. That's probably going to some of your broadest reaching groups of sellers online. Locally, if you've got any pawn shops around though you'll sometimes get lucky and see old stuff like this mounted to old rifles.
 
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Freedom790 said:
I've seen a few on Gunbroker and Ebay over the last twelve months. Generally they've been in the $1100-$1500 price range for the fixed 10x. That's probably going to some of your broadest reaching groups of sellers online. Locally, if you've got any pawn shops around though you'll sometimes get lucky and see old stuff like this mounted to old rifles.
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That is a great idea to check pawn shops. Thank you.
 
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tactinstr1SFG said:
Those things SUCKED when new... horrible piece of kit. Didn't work as a day or night optic worth a crap.
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In that era, only other issued NVD was the SIMRAD KN203 (PVS-9). KAC clip-ons were almost a decade later. The -10's get a lot of hate, but the design was radical af when compared to PVS-4/7 tech. This was when Tennebrex filters & laser interference filters LIF were cutting edge, top-secret sauce. Its MX10130 image tube was the original Gen3 white phosphor intensifier, which really hasnt been surpassed until thermal sights evolved. The KAC UNS were almost a step backwards.
 
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lockedandloaded said:
In that era, only other issued NVD was the SIMRAD KN203 (PVS-9). KAC clip-ons were almost a decade later. The -10's get a lot of hate, but the design was radical af when compared to PVS-4/7 tech. This was when Tennebrex filters & laser interference filters LIF were cutting edge, top-secret sauce. Its MX10130 image tube was the original Gen3 white phosphor intensifier, which really hasnt been surpassed until thermal sights evolved. The KAC UNS were almost a step backwards.
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We had KN200 and KN250's during that period which were far superior to the PVS-10.

The OSTI UNS most definitely was a huge leap forward in operation weapons mounted NVGs especially for sniper rifles. While the PVS-10 did exist it was untrustworthy and generally useless so much so that at the beginning of the GWOT US forces generally did not have NVGs for their sniper systems.

I designed the McCann mount and coupled it with the OSTI UNS (which I borrowed from Crane) and presented it during a Army SOF sniper symposium and down select when we were attempting to find some type of NVG for our sniper rifles in lieu of the failed INOD program. The result of that effort was that the McCann mount, the OSTI UNS and a Leupold MK4 M3 Variable 3.5-10 was selected to be procured and issued to all of the operational Army SOF elements.

The KAC aspect of this issue is another story and not a good one.
 
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@TurdFerguson Figured I'd include (shitty) pics.
Large cap is right at 2in and has "28293031" on the inside, if that matters. The small cap with red lever is like 1+5/8in
On your comment about the scope. I had expected the hate the fixed 10x. But mannnnnnnnn. I'm really liking it. Maybe it's just because of the gun/gun system as a whole.
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A special not as well known model of the M24. 308 for the AI 2.0 only made for two level 1 sniper schoolhouses

- RR prefix action with AMU bushed Bolt face to .473
- Obermeyer 24” barrel 1:10 threaded 5/8x24 for surefire FA and AAC titan depending on which schoolhouse it went to, chambered in 308 with NATO M118Lr optimized chamber
- 40x trigger
- AICS 2.0 with folder LA receiver inlet SA mag inlet
- MIRS REVB
- S&B pmii 5-25 T2 pantonne in badger 34mm ultra high 4 screw steel rings with badger coax diving board would be correct
- barreled action Teflon coated OD green
 

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Not sure where this information is coming from but I do not believe it to be accurate. That was not a rifle Remington built, perhaps the AMU did but they built all sorts of science experiments. By the time we (Remington) were affiliated/owned AAC were long past using the AICS 2.0 chassis. The AMU had a full machine shop and built MANY different rifles for a wide variety of events and reasons (sometimes "just because"). Just because they used a M24 action does not make it a "little known variant of the M24". If that is the case there are WAY more to include a variety of calibers out there that others did.

The M24 while being the issue rifle for the US Army and Air Force, it was also sold commercially, to law enforcement and internationally and thus many of them were in the wild. On top of this people have been faking the M24 from the beginning as well. In this case I have no doubt that the AMU got actions from RAC and built some guns for some reason (assuming this is true to begin with).

What are the 2 "tier 1" sniper schools you are referring to? Within the SOF community SOTIC (now the SF sniper school) was/is the only tier 1 sniper school although in the past they have stated that the USMC Scout Sniper instructor course would be considered a similar school. This is not necessarily due to the quality of school (although both are excellent) this has to do with who can work at primarily SOTIC. Each of the SF groups run their own sniper courses generally called "level 2" courses were are typically ~2 weeks or so (I ran them for many years). However, if you want to work at the school house you have to have graduated SOTIC (the level 1 course).

I don't know where the rifle/s depicted above came from but I am pretty certain they didn't come from RAC. I continue to be somewhat surprised and amused at the stuff popping up that supposedly has some provenance and pedigree. To all you potential buyers, ask for proof of any and all claims before spending a pile of money on any rifle.

I am sure the haters are going to come flying out of the woodwork, oh well. If the OP of the above gun personally worked at the AMU and had a hand building it/them then good on you but they are still not M24's, they are custom rifles using M24 actions.
 
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I’m well aware of how the AMU, level 1 and level 2 school houses work. SFSC and MASC are the two level 1 courses (technically NSW runs a level 1 as well but it’s a disaster). I’m not going to sit here and argue with you about it because quite frankly I’m not here to prove anything I was just putting a picture of my m24 build in an m24 thread. This rifle is not being sold and I could care less if you or any other “cloners” are upset about its “pedigree” lol. This exact rifle is a copy of rifles still currently used by cadre and issued to level 1. Which was made for them by remdef and some work was done by AMU. However regardless of your opinion still an m24… I never mentioned anything about tier 1 lol not sure why that was even mentioned by you I never brought up anything about rg19. I’m amazed by how many guys throw a SF flash on their account and think they know everything 😂
 
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Man you really got me on that, I just found that flash picture online and thought it looked cool so I used it...

I will admit that I mistakenly wrote "tier" instead of "level", my bad on that.

I will also admit that I don't "know everything" but I am more than familiar with the history and issues with the M24 from 1989 to 2016.

I am amazed at how many people come on these forums with unsubstantiated stories claiming all sorts of things. Why would a service sniper school use a rifle like this unless it was someone's pet project (meaning someone on the committee wanted this type rifle for themselves)? Service sniper schools use the issued rifles for instruction typically. Sure in some cases I am sure an instructor brings out some high speed rig he obtained for "show and tell" but there is no reason an instructor or school would use a weapon that is not issued (in fact in many cases the students bring issued rifles that the school doesn't have).
 
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Level 1 issues mk22s and sr25s to students however in the arms room are m24s as well as CSRs and CTSRs which the cadre can use whenever they want. They get used quite often in fact at ISC this year an issued M24 was used by SFSC. I couldn’t care less if you were SF or not. It’s not a pedestal like it was in the early gwot. Met plenty of 18 series that couldn’t do their job or see their own toes. Worked with them in Afghanistan and they couldn’t even pull security without breaking out their hammock lol again not here to prove anything or argue with you just simply posting an m24 in an m24 thread if you don’t like it then have a good day 😂
 
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Its not that I like or don't like the rifle, its the story that went with it that I think is BS. I have no doubt that the rifle is a laser beam, there are thousands of R700 based rifles that are.

I haven't talked to Rng 19 recently but I doubt they still have any SR25s, M110s sure, perhaps even some MK11s (which I guess you can argue is a SR25).

SF is a slice of society like every other military organization and there are all types in it, especially once they get out. In my time in group I met some of the greatest men to walk the earth in SF but I also met some of the biggest POS's as well.

You have a nice day as well.
 
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