Re: "Assault" rifle prices since Newtown
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: litehiker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just wondering, regarding my reply above, how many are OK with federally mandated gun safes? </div></div>
Obviously your perspective isn't as long as mine. We started down this road in the 1930s regulating machine guns, SBRs, destructive devices, poision gas and a catch all called Any Other Weapon. THAT is the "common sense / reasonable" gun legislation a modern society compromised on. Back ground checks, licenses, finger-prints. But you can still have them, Mr. Citizen.
1968 gun control act created the modern FFL system and a 4473 to keep bad guys from getting them.
1986 outlawed any new machine guns to civilians. But older ones are grandfathered. Common sense. No sporting purpose and all that crap.
1993 started with waiting periods until there was an active NICs check. You know, those bad guys lie on those 4473 forms. Oh and they debated having a gun registry and they wanted to keep those NICs records for...you know....common sense. P.S. some places never gave up the waiting periods REGARDLESS OF NICs!
1994 created a whole new class of weapon never seen before called the AWB. Beat everybody over the head with it. If you we're against it, you were out of touch. They even bribed a bunch of holdouts against it with a sunset clause. Figuring nobody would undo it later.
2004 AWB expires. By taking no action.
2009 Obama administration uses uncontrolled delivery of assault weapons to drug cartels in Mexico to try and create a fervor for new AWB ban. Program called Fast and Furious. They got busted on it. People died. People will go to jail over it.
2012 October: Obama gets on national TV and says in a live debate he wishes to restore AWB.
2012 December. Documented mentally ill person that should have been in asylum ( oh ? You can't actually name your local asylum since the Feds closed them in the 70s and those people live in cardboard boxes on sidewalks. And whenever a republican is in office show pictures of them suffering under "heartless" selfish rich, white guy policies) goes and commits murder, steals guns, commits more murder.
2012 December democrats rush out and talk about common sense gun legislation (see 1930s, 1960s, 1980s, 1990s) and want restrict more so called assault weapons.
2012 December: bills being put together by usual suspects and its obvious they are intent on regulating most semi-auto guns out of private hands. Even through a basic death tax format.
At what point are you going to look at the man in the mirror and stop kidding yourself? If they had enacted national registration in the 90s? Would they be calling for them all to be turned in today? We both damn well know they would.
And as alluded to before, I have dealt with Crane vault standards. Hell! I own one! You can't touch that for less than 8000$. The Lock alone is 1600$. And if it doesn't come straight from a certified GSA locksmith, it doesn't meet the standard. So you have to recertify everything. Read that as no used / secondary market.
You are probably thinking I'm going way off the reservation by now. My post is loquacious. But know this, you give someone the power to give you a license, you are giving them the power to take it away. Don't bullshit yourself, son.
The common sense aregument was made in the 30s. Semi-auto is just that. You pull the trigger one time, you are responsible for that round. PERIOD! No guns running away from their users. THAT'S THE COMPROMISE FROM 80 years ago!!!
These people have no clue what they are talking about. What's next? 625 revolvers? Blaser straight-pull bolt guns? They run just as fast as semi-autos?
Stop compromising. We did that in the 1930s. The rest is bull.
TTR