I used to get chills from rush songs. I like analog kid from subdivisions or the weapon. I only know about ayn rand b/c of rush as a 13 year old. Lakeside park.
I was a rush freak back in like 81-89
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I was a rush freak back in like 81-89
When I read the book and made it known that I was someone told me you are going to find just two kinds of people.
One that for ease I will say "just don't get it" you could say it other ways but this one is about as nice as you can say it, forgetting for a moment where I am.
The other will say, told ya so, with a sprinkling of one of the first books to be burned in a few years.
Reading Fountainhead now. Howard Roark just took pencil to the watercolor that just cost him yet another job. This is where I am, again totally blind going in, not sure if he will go back to be Mr. Modern and make the building on the bolder for the new client.
I am finding this one a bit rougher.
That’s exactly what a commie moonbat would say. Good thing you identify as “not” one. Poking fun of course.
Yes she preaches selfishness BUT there is no such thing as pure altruism anyway. She pushes competency. Not relying on others or forcing others against their will. Seems like a pretty nice way to move about society.
Basically get your shit done and don’t be a dick. Which just happens to be very similar message for many of the religions out there…weird/ironic. Hahaha!
Tell me one thing any human has done ever that was completely selfless/purely altruistic and I will tell you how you are wrong.
I like how you said fictional flights of fancy…that’s a great description. Well said.
To the OP: I read Atlas Shrugged back when I was 14 or 15. Also Das Kapital and Islandia same year. They were also great tough reads with a polar opposite spin. I would suggest both. As you can see by my handle I prefer the objectivist side over the commie moonbat side though…hahaha!
It’s good to read different stuff. Gets you thinking. Just try not to radicalize on one side or the other…unless you are in an echo chamber you will come off as a moron.
Thanks for the other suggestions, almost done with Fountainhead. Spoilers, so don't read if you don't want it ruined.
Not to give too much away, but Gail just "caved". He was walking bought a copy of The Banner and read the first page, the article written by "him", that he just read for the first time. I was falling asleep. You know when you read the same page 4 times but don't remember anything about it. I so wanted to know what would happen. Wonder what Roark and Dominique are going to say.
I should put this in the "book report" thread but eh I am here. I had wondered what would happen to Katy. Found Peter to be a total D-bag, not that he was not already but that was a supreme dick move. I felt so sorry for her. What happened in the end is what I figured would happen, living with that slug Toohey.
I wonder what is going to happen at the trial.
When Peter is on the rocks and Toohey comes to see him, you can see her writing style in there very clear. They talk about the monolog(s) in Atlas, you get a taste of what is to come in Atlas with Toohey's "speech" to Peter after he hands over the paper.
Wonder what is going to happen Roark I doubt knows about that.
Quite possibly those who created and administered these programs thought, "This could help people." But the first priority was, and always will be political.
I WANT to think there are people that will do the right thing because it is the right thing and no other reason. I also think that there are a great many people that go to DC with the idea, I will change things, then the seduction happens and it all goes out the window. I think there is only a hand full of people there that actually are doing what they think is the right thing for the country, and that is counting both parties.
I am going to hold tight onto that optimism, the only other thing to hang onto after that is all gone I personally am not there yet, not sure I will ever get there, or if it will even happen in my lifetime. That other thing speaks another language, generally measured in grains. After it starts talking it is going to be very long and painful to get to a point where it no longer is the one doing all the talking.
You guys know I am a fanboi of hers.....figured this fit right in here and not in another thread.
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Five ways Ayn Rand predicted America's political crises, from parents spurned to the rise of cancel culture
Author, philosopher and libertarian thinker Ayn Rand, writing mostly in post-war America, predicted with remarkable accuracy many of the social crises facing America today.
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Like going to a Waffle House..... Some people go once and other's go every day. Different opinions.
I see real old dudes at PRS matches now and then.
You should try one it’s a blast. Go to club matches they are more laid back. Lots have beginner matches now also.
Can do center fire matches or .22
My issue is nerve damage on my left side, I have real issues off handing a Nylon 66, I am just too shakey. Everything I do now, everything long gun is now done off a bench. I just can't hold it.
I can do about a half a round of sporting clays, after that I just waste ammo......sitting here thinking about it make that about a quarter round. Gun down, pull up quick shoot down again. Holding it up there is just a non starter. I can never go first, I need to see a few before I can go or I just am not quick enough from basically a low ready to on target.
They can be a tad....wordy..... I guess I would say.
When I was reading them someone told me you need to think of when they are written. Fountainhead I think was written in the late 30's, and published in the 40's. In the 1930's the world was so different from today I doubt we could cope. You might see a photo in a magazine of New York city, in black and white, but to see anything past that....nope. Black and white movie perhaps. People just did not go places, so lots of words to get the idea across. Quite a few times I found myself saying.....I get it lets move along now please. Readers today are different from readers yesterday. Atlas was the 50's. And yes you had people that moved around in the war, but still, that was a pretty limited deal on what you saw. You might stop over here or there, but still no TV for most people, radio still fairly new. It was just the style of the time. And she was Russian, they are just wordy.
Anthem I found fairly quick going. You can kill it on a rainy afternoon. It goes pretty quick.
I would be interested in knowing the why you find them horrid. Usually it is the length. If that is it I would say give Anthem a go, it is pretty quick going, but it can be confusing at first.
you should always consider context of when a serious book was written. time,place,personal experience,social setting of the time and many other factors. that is the biggest mistake progs make (except being mindless) when commenting on anything esp history. they always assume that throughout history everyone was a seattle democrat and that that is a contextually normal belief system.
She writes of a freedom that we may never obtain. Even her Capitalist utopia requires the poor to be subservient to the rich just for their existence. The same as is was in her time. The same as it is today.
However she did nail the encumbrance of big government on society. And that we as people cannot engineer our world. We are just not that smart.
However she did nail the encumbrance of big government on society. And that we as people cannot engineer our world. We are just not that smart.
And that is the problem with all these intellectual masturbation attempts at trying to create the "perfect" society.
Always it winds up that it only works when a class of serfs is subservient and near slaves to their "betters".
Also Ayn's perfect world would have very quickly disintegrated into feudalism and even worse oppression and injustice than she was fighting against because she made the fatal mistake of worshiping man and thinking that well if you only had the "perfect men" and let them be all powerful all would be good.
She kind of forgot about the whole of human history.
For example take a look at the tyrants many of the "founding fathers" turned out to be once they got in power.
Or just look at the cycle of revolutions and then dictatorships in South America.
The Communist intellectuals were all about trying to make a "perfect society"
The National Socalists were all about trying to make a "perfect Germany"
Pol Pot was all about trying to make "a perfect country in perfect harmony with nature"
We all know how those turned out...
And I did see them live at the Clinton County center Plattsburgh NY back in 1975 or 76 they opened for Blue oyster cult and some other band, but they stole the show.
While on the subject of books , someone mentioned Thomas Sowell a few months back ,so I got one of his online books , can't remember which one right now , but it was eye opening, this guy gets it , for a black intellectual that was raised a liberal, he saw the light and tells you how and when he got the message, i need to finish it but I hate online books , much prefer hard copies.
"These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference." - Lyndon Baines JohnsonGood distinction.
Thats what happened in the 60's. Regardless of the underlying intent of Johnson, I think a lot of the programs were intended to help in the way you mentioned, and I think a lot of those administering it were sincere. Unfortunately they were usually understaffed andover worked. Some of the recipients took hold, goe educated and trained and made a good life for themselves ad future generations. Some saw, More babies = bigger check = equals more coke and booze. Their descendants populate the urban ghettos of our land and are mindlessly reproducing us out of a Republic.
This quote appears on page 155 of Goodwin’s LBJ biography. The utterance was made to Richard Russell, a fellow Democratic Senator from Georgia.
"I'll have those n****** voting Democratic for 200 years" -Lyndon Baines Johnson
The source of the “200 years” quote is Ronald Kessler’s 1995 book Inside the White House. Kessler got the quote from Robert MacMillan, an Air Force One steward who said LBJ uttered this comment to two governors during a conversation on the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
The Democrats were what they are accusing Republicans of being today.
I think you are a lunatic if you don't understand that The Great Society was designed specifically to destroy the Black nuclear family, and trap them into ignorance and poverty. These were full bore white supremacists who were horrified that black people had full voting rights, and through targeted socialism and socially corrosive policies they basically acheived their goal entirely and convinced the oppressed to vote for their oppressors for two generations. It is only now that many black people are waking up to what's been done to them, and it has NEVER been Republicans, whose party was founded by abolitionists.
