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Lol srsly?what makes these barrels better? I don’t doubt that they are I just am curious as to why?
Hattori Hanzo Steel.what makes these barrels better? I don’t doubt that they are I just am curious as to why?
Lol srsly?
Harder steel. Last longer.
and typical Bartlien accuracy
Not an engineer or metalurgist. Just somebody who has machined all kinds of crap.yes seriously not all of us have tons of experience with this stuff and some of us are trying to learn
No big deal!@Frank Green could i get a 29" 224 barrel in BB? I have a 6BR BB and a std 22 dasher spinning now. Could make the 22 Dasher even more fun if I can go 3-3.5k rds on it...
Yep!Threads like these end up costing me money
Are the wait times for MOD400BB the same as regular?Yep!
I also just put together another rifle for my kid.
Now I need to buy glass for it as well!
Yes no different.Are the wait times for MOD400BB the same as regular?
Frank, I’ve never actually ordered a barrel directly from your website. Do I have to call to place an order?Yes no different.
I just cut orders for some ammunition test barrels that they want out of the BB material as well. I'm running the lead times for those as the same as normal test barrels. So again, caliber, twist, type of steel....lead times are not any different. Just that busy!
Calling is the way to go, excellent group there and very helpful.Frank, I’ve never actually ordered a barrel directly from your website. Do I have to call to place an order?
That's what I was just thinking... "I should have just let this one go on by" ....Threads like these end up costing me money
With my full and extremely personal understanding that supply chain and labor are #*(#@%#@ right now, would you mind updating on how your lead time estimates from earlier in the year are holding up? IE, I called ya'll on January 4, was quoted ~10mo for a MODBB 6.5 LHGT, and got paperwork on January 6. Is that 10mo still accurate, or what kind of slip could I expect?Yes no different.
I just cut orders for some ammunition test barrels that they want out of the BB material as well. I'm running the lead times for those as the same as normal test barrels. So again, caliber, twist, type of steel....lead times are not any different. Just that busy!
I'm still saying lead times are holding the same. So I'm not predicting any major changes. Labor wise we have a great crew overall. Yes I know some are burnt out on the overtime but everyone is in good spirits and plugging away...just a little tired.With my full and extremely personal understanding that supply chain and labor are #*(#@%#@ right now, would you mind updating on how your lead time estimates from earlier in the year are holding up? IE, I called ya'll on January 4, was quoted ~10mo for a MODBB 6.5 LHGT, and got paperwork on January 6. Is that 10mo still accurate, or what kind of slip could I expect?
(Not like I'm likely to wear my current barrel out any time soon, since I can't !(@*^&$ find ammo either...)
That's who I meant to tag. lol Thanks!
Thanks for all of your info and timeI shot in better conditions today, shot (10) three shot groups at 400y
My average over all groups was 2.18"
So Based on the previously mentioned criteria, I'll say this barrel is done.
Total round count fired through this barrel is 3750 rounds
My opinion of this steel is quite positive. If I showed you a borescope image of the throat you would probably throw up in your mouth. But as mentioned before, regardless of bore appearance, chronograph data, or round count, the target should be the biggest deciding factor.
Turning and reaming these barrels has been very similar to standard 416R. Chip formation is slightly different but we can see these variations from brand to brand. I've fluted one or two of these, and that was a bit more difficult then turning.
All in all, I think the additional cost of the blank can easily be offset by savings in gunsmithing costs and increased barrel life. I'm quite curious to see more data for other applications; including 223/308, hot magnums, etc. kind of a tough time to gen longevity testing barrels, but I thing this steel is quite promising...
Have you done any in a 223 yet?I'll get a update tonight from a retired USMC Scout Sniper and PRS shooter. We've become pretty good friends about 12 years ago. He is running a BB material barrel in 6CM. He will give me exact round count tonight but it is past 2k rounds. No velocity loss and he says stupid accurate. He will run that barrel in the Barrel Maker Classic this weekend.
I'll update you all with round count tomorrow.
offhand I know we have but don't know where any are at as of right now barrel life wise. I think Brady has one on one of his service rifles. He will be back in later on Wednesday and I'll ask him.Have you done any in a 223 yet?
Wow . That's really something. The Super low round count is what's kept me out of the Super hot 6mm rounds. If I could get 2500 or more and no loss I'd probably pull the trigger on a 6cm gunI'll get a update tonight from a retired USMC Scout Sniper and PRS shooter. We've become pretty good friends about 12 years ago. He is running a BB material barrel in 6CM. He will give me exact round count tonight but it is past 2k rounds. No velocity loss and he says stupid accurate. He will run that barrel in the Barrel Maker Classic this weekend.
I'll update you all with round count tomorrow.
Does anyone know what is the "expected" round count on a 6XC?I shot in better conditions today, shot (10) three shot groups at 400y
My average over all groups was 2.18"
So Based on the previously mentioned criteria, I'll say this barrel is done.
Total round count fired through this barrel is 3750 rounds
My opinion of this steel is quite positive. If I showed you a borescope image of the throat you would probably throw up in your mouth. But as mentioned before, regardless of bore appearance, chronograph data, or round count, the target should be the biggest deciding factor.
Turning and reaming these barrels has been very similar to standard 416R. Chip formation is slightly different but we can see these variations from brand to brand. I've fluted one or two of these, and that was a bit more difficult then turning.
All in all, I think the additional cost of the blank can easily be offset by savings in gunsmithing costs and increased barrel life. I'm quite curious to see more data for other applications; including 223/308, hot magnums, etc. kind of a tough time to gen longevity testing barrels, but I thing this steel is quite promising...
I guess ~1800, I pulled one at 2200 and one at 1250. So it depends on how rough its treated and how lucky you are.Does anyone know what is the "expected" round count on a 6XC?
We are usually getting 2000-2200 rounds on an XC barrel running at reasonable and customary speedsDoes anyone know what is the "expected" round count on a 6XC?
Or 300 RUM's, 338 Edge's, 300 Norma's 33XC's...Has anyone tried these on a bigger magnum? Or magnum 300 win mags 7 mag 300 prc ect?
Wow . That's really something. The Super low round count is what's kept me out of the Super hot 6mm rounds. If I could get 2500 or more and no loss I'd probably pull the trigger on a 6cm gun
Yeah, this thread is probably going to end up costing me a good bit of money.... Barrel... leads to new action, leads to new chassis, leads to new glass.... Leads to empty bank accountI had been toying with the idea of a 6CM to shoot factory ammo with. Literally read this thread and ordered one.
What are you shooting?So at 3750 rounds it's shooting a hair over 1/2" at 400 yards over multiple groups... Matches have been won with less accuracy . It still sounds pretty decent to me
He's got 2055 on it. He will be shooting it all weekend. I'll talk to him at the match and see how the gun is running for him. He said he's not worried about how the gun will perform. He's shooting 115DTAC's thru it.I'll get a update tonight from a retired USMC Scout Sniper and PRS shooter. We've become pretty good friends about 12 years ago. He is running a BB material barrel in 6CM. He will give me exact round count tonight but it is past 2k rounds. No velocity loss and he says stupid accurate. He will run that barrel in the Barrel Maker Classic this weekend.
I'll update you all with round count tomorrow.
No difference than a standard barrel that I've seen.Any idea if the BB barrels tend to take longer to break in?
All the data and comments I've gotten back from ammunition makers and or bullet makers that we've made the BB material for ammunition test barrels also have not noticed anything unusual either.Any idea if the BB barrels tend to take longer to break in?
Thanks @Frank Green. I dont do much different than you on break in. Shoot 1 or 2 times, clean, then shoot 50 or so. I guess I was more lumping in the speed up. Typically I see the barrel start to speed up around 50 and that continues through 120ish rounds before it really flattens out. Then I select final charge weight and tweak seating.All the data and comments I've gotten back from ammunition makers and or bullet makers that we've made the BB material for ammunition test barrels also have not noticed anything unusual either.
I've posted on this before.I wonder how many rounds you will get out of the 6.5 Creedmoor and 308W. I'm thinking about getting one for those calibers too.