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Is the scr2 reticle thicker on the pro at all from anyone who has experience with both, the thickness on the Burris site says.02 for both but reticle thickness was a pretty common complaint back with the original xtriii scr2
 
Is the scr2 reticle thicker on the pro at all from anyone who has experience with both, the thickness on the Burris site says.02 for both but reticle thickness was a pretty common complaint back with the original xtriii scr2
The reticle is reported to be a tad thicker in the illuminated scopes (pro and 3i) but the subtension on the website don't reflect that and there are so few out in the wild no one has really confirmed if it makes a notable difference.

I'm hanging out for the xtr3i to surface so can see what the illuminated reticle looks like in the 3 3-18.
 
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I'm hanging out for the xtr3i to surface so can see what the illuminated reticle looks like in the 3 3-18.


same here, maybe my tired older eyes, but i loose these fine reticles too often in the shade or high contrast backrounds. i only have 1 illuminated scope, an older PR 3-15. the reticle is awful small, but i can turn on the illum and see it against the backround if needed. also makes the scope more useable at 3x, at least i can see the crosshair clearly w the illumination on
 
Is the scr2 reticle thicker on the pro at all from anyone who has experience with both, the thickness on the Burris site says.02 for both but reticle thickness was a pretty common complaint back with the original xtriii scr2


I don’t have an original XTR III to compare too but I did put up a picture on post 388 with a vortex ebr7c at 25x. The SCR2 slightly thinner than the vortex for reference. I think it’s just about right as far as thickness.
 
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The reticle is reported to be a tad thicker in the illuminated scopes (pro and 3i) but the subtension on the website don't reflect that and there are so few out in the wild no one has really confirmed if it makes a notable difference.

I'm hanging out for the xtr3i to surface so can see what the illuminated reticle looks like in the 3 3-18.

Yep. I thought someone would have put up an informative review by now. Hopefully soon.
 
same here, maybe my tired older eyes, but i loose these fine reticles too often in the shade or high contrast backrounds. i only have 1 illuminated scope, an older PR 3-15. the reticle is awful small, but i can turn on the illum and see it against the backround if needed. also makes the scope more useable at 3x, at least i can see the crosshair clearly w the illumination on
I experience the same, used to love the thin reticles when I was younger but my 50+ year old eyes find they get lost in the same situations you mention. The SCR2 was too thin in my 3.3-18 because of this, but I also have the SCR2 in the 5.5-30 and the reticle feels thicker in this scope than it did the 3.3-18. I sold my 3.3-18 for this reason and have been waiting years (literally) for illumination, and it’s finally here (almost… maybe… I’ll believe it when I see it 😆)
 
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So I went and shot a match today. Its always nice to stop talking about it and go do it. First match with the scope, and I learned some things.

Reticle thickness.. yes, its thicker. Its noticeable. My buddy who has a pair of XTRIIIs hopped on my Pro, did a double take to see what magnification I was on, and in less than 5 seconds remarked that it was thicker. Its not a huge difference. If you want a thick reticle, you probably still won't like this one. But it is thicker.

I snapped some shots on 20x for comparison. I tried 10x and 5.5x, but my phone just wouldn't focus on the reticle. But you can look and decide for yourself. With the naked eye I can "kinda" see and use my grid on my XTR IIIs at 8x. I can absolutely see and use it on 8x in the Pro.

XTR III SCR2



XTR PRO SCR2

@Birddog6424 yes you did, hard to see what (if any) practical difference there is by these pictures though.
Appreciate you tried to make some at 5.5x but didn't have any luck.

The SCR2 in the illuminated 3.3-18 at 3.3x will be where the rubber hits the road as far as reticle thickness goes.
 
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Just got my PRO in from @TheHebrewHammer. Fit and finish is good. I'm very happy with the turrets, just the perfect amount of tension and very nice nice clicks. All adjustment knobs are good for tension except the illumination knob. For the life of me i can't get it to turn. I'm going to have to look into this when i have more time. I like the new knurling. It's a big improvement over the dragon scale. I have not had a chance to check out the glass yet.

Also, I didn't get a battery or throw lever. I'm not worried about the battery, but would like to have a throw lever.
 
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ust got my PRO in from @TheHebrewHammer. Fit and finish is good. I'm very happy with the turrets, just the perfect amount of tension and very nice nice clicks. All adjustment knobs are are good for tension except the illumination knob. For the life of me i can't get it to turn. I'm going to have to look into this when i have more time. I like the new knurling. It's a big improvement over the dragon scale. I have not had a chance to check out the glass yet.

Also, I didn't get a battery or throw lever. I'm not worried about the battery, but would like to have a throw lever.
I got mine in today also, I looked through the glass standing on my front porch around last light during rain and I was impressed with the low light quality, ready to get it mounted and compare it to my XTR 3 and also a Steiner m7 4-28.
As Big Timber stated, it was disappointing that a throw lever wasn't in the box but the dial was loose enough to be able to turn it without problems but there was some "bumps" along the dial like it was dragging on something, it didn't make it had to turn but it was noticeable.
Also, it took some effort to remove the race dial and that's when I figured out where the quick release dial was! ha
Lastly a big Thank You to @TheHebrewHammer!!
 
I got mine in today also, I looked through the glass standing on my front porch around last light during rain and I was impressed with the low light quality, ready to get it mounted and compare it to my XTR 3 and also a Steiner m7 4-28.
As Big Timber stated, it was disappointing that a throw lever wasn't in the box but the dial was loose enough to be able to turn it without problems but there was some "bumps" along the dial like it was dragging on something, it didn't make it had to turn but it was noticeable.
Also, it took some effort to remove the race dial and that's when I figured out where the quick release dial was! ha
How is your illumination knob? That thing really has me stumped.
 
The illumination should turn pretty easy. Rotation is forward to increase brightness and hold at the end to swap colors.

Yeah, mine must be jammed. I'm debating between getting after it with a pliers or just sending it back.

Do you guys have any lash in your turrets? I have a little, but I've noticed on my other burris products, that the turret alignment improves with use.
 
I also received my XTR Pro from @TheHebrewHammer yesterday, mounted it up this afternoon and hit the range. In short glass is a noticeable improvement over my XTR III especially on the upper half of the mag range, slightly larger FOV when comparing them side by side and colors have more pop. Turret feels great, IMO some of the better turrets I have felt, love the big knob and large numbers, and the new knurling on it seems near perfect, Parallax is smooth, but isn't quite as smooth as my XTR III, but it might get better and smooth out over time. Illumination works great, I love the red and green option! I also didn't receive a battery which isn't a major deal, but I mean I don't think I have ever bought an illuminated scope that did not come with a battery. Mag ring is smooth, again knurling is great, but no throw lever with mine either, which sucks!

I am always a little skeptical getting something that just came out as I feel like there is always some kinks to work out. After almost 3 hours on the range I couldn't find anything I didn't like about this scope. All in all I think this scope is gonna be a hit and I'm not sure if there is anything in this price range that will compare.
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I got home from work early today and thought I'd do a informal comparison with the pro and my Steiner m7 4-28, first off is the fact I've spent a lot of time behind the Steiner and make some quick adjustments to the pro (it's not mounted yet) so the reticle details wasn't really part of what I was looking at yet except the Steiner reticle on the highest setting is much thicker and earlier for these old eyes to see. The first comparison was around 3 this eve and the Pro seemed brighter on the highest setting and the contrast( if that's the correct term) in details was about the same, on the lowest settings both scopes seemed about equal. I set everything down till sundown at 7:15 this evening, on the highest setting it was still easy to see objects close to at distance but the Pro was now about equal in the brightness. I turned the illumination on in both scopes to see how the Pro would work in low light and with about 30 minutes of light left everything looked good.
At 7:45, the last little bit of light left both scopes had to be cut way down to see anything, I moved my setup so I could look at a target about 200 yards away and at the lowest setting I could see the target with both scopes but the Steiner showed more detail, after cutting on the reticle the Steiner did win because of the fact that only the center was lit and you can turn it down to a very low dim setting that barely glows and the Pro just wouldn't get that dim plus more of the reticle was lit washing out my target. I changed it from green to red and that helped me out but the recticle was still a little to bright. Overall I was very impressed with the Pro, during all but the darkest of light it held it's own against a scope costing 1000 more and even then it wasn't like that big of a difference.
Things I really liked about the Pro over the Steiner is the locking eye piece, which is forever getting bumped and changed on the Steiner. Also liked the feel of the turrets better also but I will say the little button for second revolution is pretty cool on the Steiner, but the ability to change turrets with out tools and quickly is the coolest thing too come down the block!!!
I'm very impressed with the Pro and think Burris done themselves proud with this scope, if I could complain about anything it's I wish you could get the scope with a SCR recticle which is thicker and easier for old eyes to see but they didn't build this scope for old fat men with bad eye sight:ROFLMAO:
 
Just wanted to update for the guys that didn't get a throw lever or battery. I contacted Burris support last night about the missing items via the webpage at 9pm CST last night and got a shipping conformation and tracking number at 9:30am this morning.
Ditto, here too, logged into my Burris account and left a incident report and I had a e-mail with a tracking number first thing this morning!!
Excellent customer service!
 
Just got off the phone with Burris. Got my name on a throw lever.

Spent a few minutes last night comparing the PRO to the ATACR 7-35. Obviously the field of view is better on the Burris (I just dialed to the same marked numbers on the dial), but the parallax was less forgiving than the ATACR. To my eyes the glass was a little better on the PRO than the ATACR.

I've compared this same ATACR to the xtr 3 and I thought the ATACR glass was better than the xtr3. I think the PRO beats the ATACR by about the same amount as the ATACR beats the xtr3. Plus I paid about $1k less for the PRO than i paid for the ATACR.

I think this scope at this price is going to steal some market share.
 
Just got off the phone with Burris. Got my name on a throw lever.

Spent a few minutes last night comparing the PRO to the ATACR 7-35. Obviously the field of view is better on the Burris (I just dialed to the same marked numbers on the dial), but the parallax was less forgiving than the ATACR. To my eyes the glass was a little better on the PRO than the ATACR.

I've compared this same ATACR to the xtr 3 and I thought the ATACR glass was better than the xtr3. I think the PRO beats the ATACR by about the same amount as the ATACR beats the xtr3. Plus I paid about $1k less for the PRO than i paid for the ATACR.

I think this scope at this price is going to steal some market share.

Wow, that’s saying something for sure. That makes my smile even bigger because the 7-35 was on the short list of options I was looking at.
 
Installed the throw lever today. No instructions (really not needed either) so I torqued it to 20 in/lbs which is probably a hair high. Didn’t strip though. I love the size of it, big enough to use easily and not too big to get in the way. I installed mine where the lever sits at 12x, seems to be a really good spot since I run around 16x a lot, puts the lever just right of vertical so I can still see the turret. No issues on 30x with bolt handle interference either.
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You guys are such haters on the Horus. Let me get behind it and I will let you know my thoughts. The beauty may be that I will have another excuse for not seeing/hitting anything!

I totally understand the guys who were military and trained on a Horus reticle - but otherwise, why go through the pain? :ROFLMAO:
 
No hate at all. I just like to see the target, hit’s and misses. Don’t have a spotter available all the time that would make these observations for me.
It’s my personal opinion that my eye focuses to much on the reticle if it is big and to “busy”.
 
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^I tried the PR2 in the MK5 and didn't like it. I like the idea of the more open reticle, but the SCR2 is so nice and thin to begin with... As far as halving 1/4's vs tenths of mils, likely just needed to get used to it.
 
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under the turret is a brass triangle.

Factory setting stops the turret at 0
Flip it over gives a -0.4
take it out and it can go down till turret hits. All scopes will be different here. Will not effect function.


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even switching barrels, which I do alot with all these divisions and weight classes popping up, having that .4 under has been plenty. if its more than .4, its super easy to loose quick detach turret and go up to 2 mils and tighten quickly without allens. I agree tho it sure is nice having the ability to dial below zero.




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DT

I deleted one of the pics from the above quote.

Does anyone know if the turret on the XTR III has the same zero stop triangle?
 
sorry for continuing to derail this thread about the Pro....

Is there a way to "defeat" the zero stop in the XTR III (like removing that triangle would defeat the zero stop on the Pro)?

Loosen the turret, pull it up a bit, then re-tighten. Now turn the turret as far below zero as you'd like, then loosen again, and press down flush. Re-tighten. New Z-stop is where you put it.
 
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Thanks. I've read the manual, and know how to set the zero stop. I'm trying to determine if I can eliminate the zero stop....or ideally, have the stop position set below zero.

I don't own either scope yet, or have a way of getting my hands on either. I'm trying to figure out if I should spend more for the Pro, or settle for the XTR at closeout pricing.

Sorry for the off topic.
 
Thanks. I've read the manual, and know how to set the zero stop. I'm trying to determine if I can eliminate the zero stop....or ideally, have the stop position set below zero.

I don't own either scope yet, or have a way of getting my hands on either. I'm trying to figure out if I should spend more for the Pro, or settle for the XTR at closeout pricing.

Sorry for the off topic.

There is a XT3 thread maybe ask there.

Also, the closeout prices are absolutely redic good deal. Odd ive never heard this q asked before and now I want to check.




GL!
DT
 
Thanks. I've read the manual, and know how to set the zero stop. I'm trying to determine if I can eliminate the zero stop....or ideally, have the stop position set below zero.

I don't own either scope yet, or have a way of getting my hands on either. I'm trying to figure out if I should spend more for the Pro, or settle for the XTR at closeout pricing.

Sorry for the off topic.

I was explaining how to set it to stop below zero, as far below as you like, until the scope bottoms out. If unclear, perhaps I can take pics, or someone else can explain the same in a better way.
 
I think I'm not asking my question correctly. But I posted it in the XTR3 thread instead. Sorry for polluting this one. Thanks all for trying to help.
You are asking correctly. You want to: have your scope at 0 and then be able to turn the turret to go below zero which would allow you to do a hold under if needed. Chickentoast is on the same page as you. Im not home to mess with my scope but Ill be trying the method mentioned above when I do get back. Im a little confused too but thats just cause I dont have the scope in front of me to attempt it.

@Chickentoast Does that make you lose your zero to get it set up the first time around?