I have been told, directly from Burris, expect about a year for the Pro and non Pro illuminated model to hit EV due to demand…
Burris XTR Pro 🇺🇸
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It does get annoying when many of these companies claim to have a Mil/LEO program yet you can't ever buy anything because they are either out of stock or they wait a year or two to upload to latest products.
Vortex, Leopold, Burris, Bushnell.
You can order any NF direct from them, March the same as well as a few others.
Vortex, Leopold, Burris, Bushnell.
You can order any NF direct from them, March the same as well as a few others.
I was able to get my Bushnell DMR3 direct from them with their program, and shipping was quite fast I might add, and I did see the new Razor pop onto EV instantly but it’s been OOS since appearing.
Bushnell used to let you order direct from their mil person. Then they went to EV, Then they let you order from the website, but nothing was ever in stock.
Recently Bushnell and associated brands including RCBS slashed their discount to the point you can get the shit cheaper from a retailer.
These fuck fuck games are going to make buying more ZCOs the correct choice.
Not cool man.
I spent 4 years as a chef sailing around the Caribbean, I've earned these discounts!
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Steven Segall played you in a movie?!
I'm not sure why you seem to be trying to tell me I'm wrong about what I like in a reticle.
You do you.
Cool review
i usually shoot at 16x and havnt had a problem...I havnt compared to an xtr3 as I thought it was the same same...
everyone loves options.
For a capped wind its not as important as the windage knob is used only 2 times for me at matches. Always dial the wind on movers, and single target stages. never any time else unless the wind is super high on a multiple target stage I will dial the first target and have my holdovers subtracted from the first target.
I lose those stinkin little allen wrenches faster than anything BUT in big matches I usually use a tool to rezero the wind. Similar to my tangent, I love love tooless rezero.
I would argue the other side (again what matches you shoot) that NOONE dials wind and having an uncapped turret is a horrible idea in NRL Hunter matches. ha. Just this weekend I know of 2 people that accidentally bumped their windage knob. And when you have 4 min to find range dial and shoot 4 targets, if you waste time dialing wind you will most likely time out.
But as mentioned above, in PRS style I dial with movers and single target stages.
I mentioned thanksgiving and its not deleted. After shooting the scope in a couple matches Burris listened and made changes. Hence the point of R&D. And they told us 2 because we are a lot cooler than anyone else. daaaa (Im not really that cool more special lol)
*(if you know nothing about production you need people to test your product before you ship. im not sure why this is surprising to anyone.)
And Im hyping it because, again this might be shocking, if noone knows about it, noone will buy it. and it is literally revolutionary in the scope world. a removable turret???? im still geeking out.
lol
Regards
DT
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Good call with the .25 mil holds. I really think the SCR and SCR2 are too cluttered. Guess that's why I have 3 Bushy XRS3 with Gap4 ret.
Love the idea of this Burris Pro with SCR-LGBTQ ret though..........nice to see
I may have to try one.
Dang it. Was looking for a production class scope to put on top of my backup Tikka TAC A1. It's $139 over the production limit. Back to buying that new Bushnell XRS 6-36 I go.
So the design logic was:
An undetermined number of shooters might not ever spin the windage turret back to zero, so no need to make that turret tool less?
That would be a niche category I would think.
I imagine most people will zero the scope and never take the windage cap off again (including myself).
Hence why you see ZCO offering a non locking elevation turret but no mention of a windage turret to match.
One of the uses that seems to be hinted at but not explicitly said for the turret removal is to make it easier to write on the race turret.
I see no real advantage to easily removing the turret rather than do what TT does, unelss it's intended to be removed somewhat frequently for the above use.
I guess there is no reason why you couldn't do the same with the windage turret but as wind is subject to change unlike elevation, and many people just hold wind, and many people leave it capped 99.9% of the time, I guess they didn't see a reason for it.
people acting like its impossible to rezero the turret. the scope comes with an allen just like 100% of all other scopes to rezero the wind.
2 reasons i can see of design logic for not making the windage turret tooless is not wanting a gigantic turret on the side of the scope and keeping costs down. a smaller narrow tooless clutch on the side would be cool tho…
maybe i should do a poll but id be willing to bet its 10:1 or more people who cap it and forget it over wanting an exposed turret to turn…i shoot a ton of matches and RO several a year and i see maybe 1 or 2 shooters on my stages who dial wind on the clock. it just doesn’t happen. i saw 0 do it this weekend with nearly 100 shooters
regards
DT
All I want is a XTR 3i/PRO with illum and a MSR 2 reticle ...
I think the reason most would want a toolless windage is similar to the popularity of TT among the switch barrel crowd like AI and DT where you can swap a barrel to another cartridge in seconds - toolless turrets help quickly adjust (these rifles are amazingly repeatable) when swapping barrels/cartridges.
I swap scopes and barrels around on rifles and don't actually bother to zero the windage turret.
I get not everyone will want to do that but personally doesn't bother me having the windage not zeroes if I never dial it.
^Any news on shipments to dealers? Since no SHOT appearance and inventory sitting on shelves, tell them to ship, or just grab me 2 and I'll send you appropriate simolions and a fedex number 
To answer my own Q, just spoke with Burris CS - said not shipping until end of February. To be fair to the lashing I gave MDT earlier today, it doesn't matter if I love the product (XTR3) - they dried up the market for XTR3's in Nov, missed the Xmas season, and will have had a ~4 month product gap by the time these hit dealers. Management is so poor you have to wonder how they stay in business.
I wonder what happened to sitting on the shelf ready to ship? I was bummed when I sent my check, thinking that waiting for my check to clear was going to really slow my scope delivery down, but I guess not.
I also will not be kind if this product is not perfect. That's the problem with higher price point, I expect more for my money. I overlooked things I didn't like on the xtrii and xtr3 because I figured for the price I paid I could live with it, but once you go north of $2k I expect more.
I should've grabbed 2 of the old XTR3's from your group buy. You have my order if I don't break down and buy different scopes before then.
Wow, I can’t believe shipping is going to take that long. I was hoping they’d be on shelves by now.
The best part is the Burris website has a bunch of reviews of the scope posted already. Like a dude saying he's not gay with a dick in his mouth
You don’t need good management when demand is through the roof for everything and shitty deadlines/launch dates/availability is the norm in your industry.
Not saying Burris management is shitty. This stuff shouldn’t happen but I expect it when it comes to guns and optics. It shouldn’t be this way but it is.
But is he looking the other guy in the eyes…The best part is the Burris website has a bunch of reviews of the scope posted already. Like a dude saying he's not gay with a dick in his mouth
Elephant vagina.
Yes I’ll be posting my own results in the Bushnell thread as not to derail this one.
In my opinion, Burris is the best ever!! I had the XTR 1(MOA) back in 2009 and sold it like a fool a year later for something else. I still regret. I've had an an XTR II now for 3 years and I'll go to my grave with it lol. Have fun with your evaluations on this model man!!Burris is upping their game. Again. An American company, using American workers, making American products. If that doesnt tickle ur fancy you probably tested positive for commi and you should quarantine
The XTR Pro will again be made in Greeley, Colorado. Im very excited about this optic.
FEATURES
5-30x56
34mm tube
new SCR-Q reticle (1/4 mil tree less cluttered)
2lb 11oz on my scale with Hawkins rings on it
best in class FOV
rock solid tracking
improved glass over the already impressive XTR3
(looking through the pro next to the 3, you can see the fov is the same BUT the pro looks like it is on a higher magnification because the image was noticeably better)
illuminated red or grn and goes to 11 laugh out loud
paralax down to 20 yards
2 different QUICK DETACH turrets included (technically 3)
-white comp turret to draw on
-black normal with large easy to see #’s
-tooless rezero turret
throw lever included
tooless re-zero
new 12 mil knobs with larger spacing
capped windage
Burris no question asked forever warranty
im sure i forgot something but for now thats what i got. i have shot one match with it and i am super impressed. i shot in NM in 50+ mph winds with my 308. dust like you wouldn’t believe. scope performed like a boss and i was able to take top 308 and tied for 5th overall in the match. not bad for the Lords caliber
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…more to follow!!
Remember that one time that the Japanese plant halted production on 70 series landcruisers because they had to repurpose their forges for the new Landcruiser line, and there was a back log for nearly six months?
Yeah, sometimes management is just dealing with economics with product pipelines and caring about quality over quantity. Losing a couple of sales on the XTR3, and possible the XTR PRO in order to have a smooth launch that doesn't push out sub quality items (Steiner T5 launch comes to mind) was probably a fair trade.
Yeah, sometimes management is just dealing with economics with product pipelines and caring about quality over quantity. Losing a couple of sales on the XTR3, and possible the XTR PRO in order to have a smooth launch that doesn't push out sub quality items (Steiner T5 launch comes to mind) was probably a fair trade.
what?!?!? actual reasons for delays?
kind of the reason they waited to announce. and as noted Burris has made no promises on any dates. only announcing new product before shot.
Birddog or myself dont work for Burris. we have day jobs and shoot their stuff. we run matches and love when american companies sponsor them.
Be patient. its worth it. so am i. haha.
GL
DT
anyone at shot stop by the MDT tent?
so excited for you guys to get hands on.
DT
so excited for you guys to get hands on.
DT
Oh dear God, more money out the door... I love JAE stocks and am loving this new one from MDT!!! Looks great with the XTR Pro
Pro model looks awesome, but the release video did seem like these were shipping out now. I'm sure they are worth the wait though.
Oh dear God, more money out the door... I love JAE stocks and am loving this new one from MDT!!! Looks great with the XTR Pro
It's a hi-performance racing scope on a race gun. I'm not a competitive shooter but that looks pretty darn cool!
I was at Shot for 2 days, I was impressed with the new XTR Pro....really what's not to like, the glass was great, turrets were great, reticle was nice, illimination was great (partial reticle illumination which I prefer)
It's all about preference, Honestly I think you can't go wrong with these scopes....... the XRS3, MK5, XTR Pro or Vortex gen 3. I would sort of say that If I had to choose the XTR pro has a very appealing list of features for the price
It's all about preference, Honestly I think you can't go wrong with these scopes....... the XRS3, MK5, XTR Pro or Vortex gen 3. I would sort of say that If I had to choose the XTR pro has a very appealing list of features for the price
I don't think the razor gen 3 belongs in this group. It's probably comparable Performance wise, but it's priced in the next level.
I would be really interested in the XTR PRO if it didn't have the red. To me, Burris trying to get a signature look like the Razor.
I actually like the turrets painted, red wouldn't have been my first choice but I still like it. If the razor can sell with the ugly brown, I guess the XTR won't have an issue selling with the red.
The scope looks great with tons of features as well, but people (myself included) will tend to be picky on features when spending $2k or more on an optic. I’m hesitant to buy one and keep going back and forth. Only 26 mils of internal elevation out of a 34mm tube kills the deal for me.
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