Rifle Scopes Burris XTR3!!!

Blame the consumers who don't know the difference between warranty and end-user abuse. Companies have to work in a scope's replacement cost into the initial price
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I couldn't help myself...

But seriously, assuming the new XTR III is a 6-36, the G3 Razor's price feels out of place. With Burris and Bushnell's offerings, I'm surprised they launched it at such a high price point.
 
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I couldn't help myself...

But seriously, assuming the new XTR III is a 6-36, the G3 Razor's price feels out of place. With Burris and Bushnell's offerings, I'm surprised they launched it at such a high price point.
Ours is still 5.5-30.

But it baffles me that anyone thinks they need more. ELR could kinda justify it. But I've never shot over 25x even when shooting beyond a mile. I think last time out we went to 2200 yards and I was on 18x.
 
Nothing else interests me other than the 3-18 being illuminated. I think that scope with illumination is the LR hunting scope to buy. Will be looking into this for the future.
Doesn't even have to be illuminated, just a thicker reticle IMO.

So the glass is imporved in the XTR Pro it seems?
I hope they clear all this up in the offical launch as I have no idea what is happening with/to this XTR 3 line.
 
Doesn't even have to be illuminated, just a thicker reticle IMO.

So the glass is imporved in the XTR Pro it seems?
I hope they clear all this up in the offical launch as I have no idea what is happening with/to this XTR 3 line.

I need it illuminated. I got bit on a hunt with a NF ATACR 5-25 that didn't have illumination on a trophy whitetail in KY. Swore I'd never hunt again without illumination. I could see the deer, but couldn't see the reticle.
 
Assuming it doesn’t have locking elevation turret?
This does not.

And I can't speak to Burris' opinion on this matter, so this is strictly IMHO, but locking elevation turrets are a cure for a problem that never existed.

You should always check your dope on an exposed turret before taking a shot, any shot. And Lord knows I've certainly forgotten to dial on a stage or two. I'm preaching to myself 🤣

Having said that, I dont know anyone who missed a shot in hunting or competition from a bumped elevation turret.
 
This does not.

And I can't speak to Burris' opinion on this matter, so this is strictly IMHO, but locking elevation turrets are a cure for a problem that never existed.

You should always check your dope on an exposed turret before taking a shot, any shot. And Lord knows I've certainly forgotten to dial on a stage or two. I'm preaching to myself 🤣

Having said that, I dont know anyone who missed a shot in hunting or competition from a bumped elevation turret.
I've lost time by accidentally locking my turret on the last dial and then wondering what's happened? Why I can't turn my turret to the next target? I hate locking turrets. They are the worst
 
I need it illuminated. I got bit on a hunt with a NF ATACR 5-25 that didn't have illumination on a trophy whitetail in KY. Swore I'd never hunt again without illumination. I could see the deer, but couldn't see the reticle.
I 95% agree but would prefer a thicker non illuminated reticle than a super thin one with illumination.

I find a thicker reticle (on the 3.3-18 atleast) will be useful more often than illumination is.
But agree in those times when you need illumination, you need illumination.
 
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I 95% agree but would prefer a thicker non illuminated reticle than a super thin one with illumination.

I find a thicker reticle (on the 3.3-18 atleast) will be useful more often than illumination is.
But agree in those times when you need illumination, you need illumination.
Absolutely. My biggest complaint is not a heavy enough reticle for hunting. Burris needs to step up on that one because nobody else will. A mil-quad is close, just needs a little thickening where it matters. If you hunt woods to open 600 yard fields you know what I’m talking about.

I‘m never off of 6x on 300 yards and in and only on 10-12 at 600 when hunting, I like a wide FOV to watch reactions. 2 weeks ago I had my AR with an XTRII 4-20 G2B (I think) and had to go to 10x at 310 yards because it’s a bit thin. I didn’t have time to turn on illumination, something about 2 orange blobs moving around for position. Plenty of light, just thin reticles.
 
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I've lost time by accidentally locking my turret on the last dial and then wondering what's happened? Why I can't turn my turret to the next target? I hate locking turrets. They are the worst
I get how frustrating that must have been.. The only scope I ever broke in competition was a MK8 CQBSS 1-8. Came in a little fast on a dump box in a 3 gun match and it busted the pinch to move locking turrets. I had to hold under the rest of the day and swap it out for day 2.
dont quote me but the XTR3 will not be avail without illum moving forward. AND there will be a price drop.

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I heard the same thing. I think that's solid info.

Other scopes are going up in price, the XTR3 is coming down.
Absolutely. My biggest complaint is not a heavy enough reticle for hunting. Burris needs to step up on that one because nobody else will. A mil-quad is close, just needs a little thickening where it matters. If you hunt woods to open 600 yard fields you know what I’m talking about.

I‘m never off of 6x on 300 yards and in and only on 10-12 at 600 when hunting, I like a wide FOV to watch reactions. 2 weeks ago I had my AR with an XTRII 4-20 G2B (I think) and had to go to 10x at 310 yards because it’s a bit thin. I didn’t have time to turn on illumination, something about 2 orange blobs moving around for position. Plenty of light, just thin reticles.
The SCR is a good hunting reticle. I've used it for 8 years now on hunting rifles.

Its .035 mils thick.
 
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so even once released I'm guessing these new models are going to be unobtainium for months and months correct?
There are quite a few of the XTR Pro already produced. They are up for sale for retailers.

But depending on demand, they may be tough to grab.

This isn't a teaser of what's to come like in year's past. The new scopes are in production.
 
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I couldn't help myself...

But seriously, assuming the new XTR III is a 6-36, the G3 Razor's price feels out of place. With Burris and Bushnell's offerings, I'm surprised they launched it at such a high price point.
It's $500 over the original price of the Gen II and almost a decade later I'm not really sure where the disconnect is other than people thinking Vortex's high end products have some astronomical failure rate, and that as a company they shouldn't even look at the high end market, which is becoming a fad at this point it seems. I digress though.

The new XTR appears to be 5.5-30, less X-ring's video is of something else? Seems to be a further iteration of the XTRIII?
 
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The new XTR appears to be 5.5-30, less X-ring's video is of something else? Seems to be a further iteration of the XTRIII?
Yes, that's fairly accurate. Its 5.5-30×56. Still made in Colorado using the same tube as the XTRIII, but it starts getting better from there.

The glass is upgraded, 3 reticle options, toollless zero, red or green illumination, quick swap turrets, low $2k MAP.
 

I had high hopes for the XTR Pro, but this is really, really exciting as I wasn't expecting those turrets - they are really phenomenal. Upgraded glass, illumination, toolless turret and all for in the $2k range - brilliant! I can't wait to see one, would love to compare to my XTR III and my new G3, and my... way to go Burris!