Casey Anthoney NOT GUILTY

#51
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Are you fucking kidding me, This is why I would never be able to sit on a jury. Her ass should stay in jail forever!!!! The system is shit. She killed her daughter, made up all the bullshit, now she is going to be a millionaire. I would of said guilty for being a lying killing bitch, who is sucking up my air.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ubet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Disclaimer, I didnt follow the case, just caught highlights on the radio.

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? I am not sticking up for casey, but she went to trial and was acquited. None of us (that I know of) were on the jury. They heard the evidence from both sides, and found her NOT GUILTY, they didnt find her INNOCENT big difference their! It is horrific what happened to the little girl, dont get me wrong, but maybe just MAYBE the mother didnt do it. None of us know, people know what they would like to hear. From the start of this cluster fuck though, the media chose the mother to be the guilty party, sounds like the govt went along with that notion, 12 of her peers didnt. If casey did do it, she will get hers' but if she didnt do it, <span style="font-weight: bold">why is everyone so venomously wanting her to be the fall guy? </span>

Just because something seems the most logical, doesnt mean it always is. Opposite of occams (sp?) razor. </div></div>
 
#53
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I really blame the media for my feelings of hatred towards Casey Anthony!

She's a piece of shit, just from what she and her defense team have admitted and what not...

But with all the media coverage jumping to conclusions... she was already guilty in most of the United States, if not the world!

Thats my beef... Being "Guilty until proven innocent"!

Our judicial system doesn't always work... But it actually came through this time!

There was a serious lack of evidence in this case!
It is not the defendants job to provide innocence... It is the prosecutors duty to prove guilt!

The prosecutors dropped the ball in this case... actually, they never picked the ball up! They all thought it was a slam dunk!

tisk tisk tisk!!!
 
#54
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GardDog</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no idea why this kind of trial holds the interest of the news media for the entire country. </div></div>

Because the thought of a sweet, innocent child being murdered in cold blood does not go over well with Americans; they want to see justice served. </div></div>

Really?
Then let's see if this one gets as much coverage as the Anthony case did.
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/9826518/
I got a C note that says it won't.
 
#55
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Casey Anthony won't get mother of year or even make the top five, but I do believe that the verdict was fair and proper, based on the lack of solid evidence.
 
#56
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jhedg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are you fucking kidding me, This is why I would never be able to sit on a jury. Her ass should stay in jail forever!!!! The system is shit. She killed her daughter, made up all the bullshit, now she is going to be a millionaire. I would of said guilty for being a lying killing bitch, who is sucking up my air.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ubet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Disclaimer, I didnt follow the case, just caught highlights on the radio.

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? I am not sticking up for casey, but she went to trial and was acquited. None of us (that I know of) were on the jury. They heard the evidence from both sides, and found her NOT GUILTY, they didnt find her INNOCENT big difference their! It is horrific what happened to the little girl, dont get me wrong, but maybe just MAYBE the mother didnt do it. None of us know, people know what they would like to hear. From the start of this cluster fuck though, the media chose the mother to be the guilty party, sounds like the govt went along with that notion, 12 of her peers didnt. If casey did do it, she will get hers' but if she didnt do it, <span style="font-weight: bold">why is everyone so venomously wanting her to be the fall guy? </span>

Just because something seems the most logical, doesnt mean it always is. Opposite of occams (sp?) razor. </div></div> </div></div>

Were you on the jury? Did you participate in the investigation? Or maybe you hold evidence that WASNT in the investigation, that beyond a reasonable doubt would prove she is guilty? If you do, you probably ought to come forward with said evidence, so they can get a retrial, and send her to the chair. Or possibly, you could have just gotten all of your "intel" from the media?

If you answered yes to either of the first two questions, you are not being an asshat, and thinking pragmatically. If you answered yes to the third question, you probably should have came forward with your wealth of damning evidence a couple months ago. If you answered yes to the last question, you are brainwashed into thinking that the media reports the news, and would not try to entertain, or to profit off the sad death of this girl.

I have a feeling though, that you were not on the jury, not involved in the investigation, and do not hold evidence against her. So following that train of thought, would lead me to my final conclusion, that you have gained your superior wisdom on this case (BEYOND what the jury heard) from the mainstream media. SO, we dont even need trials anymore, we can just let the likes of Nancy Grace and the rest of the shock jocks decide if we are guilty or innocent
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#59
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ubet</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jhedg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are you fucking kidding me, This is why I would never be able to sit on a jury. Her ass should stay in jail forever!!!! The system is shit. She killed her daughter, made up all the bullshit, now she is going to be a millionaire. I would of said guilty for being a lying killing bitch, who is sucking up my air.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ubet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Disclaimer, I didnt follow the case, just caught highlights on the radio.

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? I am not sticking up for casey, but she went to trial and was acquited. None of us (that I know of) were on the jury. They heard the evidence from both sides, and found her NOT GUILTY, they didnt find her INNOCENT big difference their! It is horrific what happened to the little girl, dont get me wrong, but maybe just MAYBE the mother didnt do it. None of us know, people know what they would like to hear. From the start of this cluster fuck though, the media chose the mother to be the guilty party, sounds like the govt went along with that notion, 12 of her peers didnt. If casey did do it, she will get hers' but if she didnt do it, <span style="font-weight: bold">why is everyone so venomously wanting her to be the fall guy? </span>

Just because something seems the most logical, doesnt mean it always is. Opposite of occams (sp?) razor. </div></div> </div></div>

Were you on the jury? Did you participate in the investigation? Or maybe you hold evidence that WASNT in the investigation, that beyond a reasonable doubt would prove she is guilty? If you do, you probably ought to come forward with said evidence, so they can get a retrial, and send her to the chair. Or possibly, you could have just gotten all of your "intel" from the media?

If you answered yes to either of the first two questions, you are not being an asshat, and thinking pragmatically. If you answered yes to the third question, you probably should have came forward with your wealth of damning evidence a couple months ago. If you answered yes to the last question, you are brainwashed into thinking that the media reports the news, and would not try to entertain, or to profit off the sad death of this girl.

I have a feeling though, that you were not on the jury, not involved in the investigation, and do not hold evidence against her. So following that train of thought, would lead me to my final conclusion, that you have gained your superior wisdom on this case (BEYOND what the jury heard) from the mainstream media. SO, we dont even need trials anymore, we can just let the likes of Nancy Grace and the rest of the shock jocks decide if we are guilty or innocent
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#60
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Really.........

How many American's made their decisions on this case based on what the News media "told them"?

How many Americans made their decision to elect the President based on what the news media "told them"?

How many Americans looked at the facts presented in either case?.....

Mayhaps we should look at ourselves when deciding who to believe and quit listening to those that "tell" us what to believe.......

Just say'n

Cheers,

Doc
 
#61
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BOLTRIPPER</div><div class="ubbcode-body">nancy grace is a <span style="text-decoration: line-through">shrill</span> <span style="color: #FF0000">shill</span>....</div></div>

Fixed it for ya.

Hmm?

Ok ok, both work here.
 
#62
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tucker301</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That sounds like a good case for a defamation suit to me. </div></div>Casey Anthony is a public figure.
 
#63
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One other great thing about this country along with letting a murderer go free to become a millionaire. Is the right for me to think, believe, say whatever the hell I want! If you think for a second that she did not have a hand in that girls death you are crazy!! I do not care what the media has to say. If it "looks like a duck walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck" its a fucking duck. I do not have to be their. Even if she did not kill her by her own hand, then why in the hell all the stories, and lies??? Thats why I could not sit on a jury. My thought would be she had some hand in it, or help in covering something up. I am saying for me there is no way I could be impartial. Are judicial system is fucked up killers go free, innocent get convicted. Is it the best system out there yes. Do I have to believe in it NO!!! Civic duty, I do not care about my civic duty when it comes to crap like this. I obey the law!!!! Its not like she left the girl home for an hour without a babysitter sleeping. Maybe you should of invested a little bit of time in researching some of the case, and seen all of the bullshit. Did she premeditate the killing??? I DONT CARE she had something to do with it, and that's enough.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ubet</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jhedg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are you fucking kidding me, This is why I would never be able to sit on a jury. Her ass should stay in jail forever!!!! The system is shit. She killed her daughter, made up all the bullshit, now she is going to be a millionaire. I would of said guilty for being a lying killing bitch, who is sucking up my air.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ubet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Disclaimer, I didnt follow the case, just caught highlights on the radio.

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? I am not sticking up for casey, but she went to trial and was acquited. None of us (that I know of) were on the jury. They heard the evidence from both sides, and found her NOT GUILTY, they didnt find her INNOCENT big difference their! It is horrific what happened to the little girl, dont get me wrong, but maybe just MAYBE the mother didnt do it. None of us know, people know what they would like to hear. From the start of this cluster fuck though, the media chose the mother to be the guilty party, sounds like the govt went along with that notion, 12 of her peers didnt. If casey did do it, she will get hers' but if she didnt do it, <span style="font-weight: bold">why is everyone so venomously wanting her to be the fall guy? </span>

Just because something seems the most logical, doesnt mean it always is. Opposite of occams (sp?) razor. </div></div> </div></div>

Were you on the jury? Did you participate in the investigation? Or maybe you hold evidence that WASNT in the investigation, that beyond a reasonable doubt would prove she is guilty? If you do, you probably ought to come forward with said evidence, so they can get a retrial, and send her to the chair. Or possibly, you could have just gotten all of your "intel" from the media?

If you answered yes to either of the first two questions, you are not being an asshat, and thinking pragmatically. If you answered yes to the third question, you probably should have came forward with your wealth of damning evidence a couple months ago. If you answered yes to the last question, you are brainwashed into thinking that the media reports the news, and would not try to entertain, or to profit off the sad death of this girl.

I have a feeling though, that you were not on the jury, not involved in the investigation, and do not hold evidence against her. So following that train of thought, would lead me to my final conclusion, that you have gained your superior wisdom on this case (BEYOND what the jury heard) from the mainstream media. SO, we dont even need trials anymore, we can just let the likes of Nancy Grace and the rest of the shock jocks decide if we are guilty or innocent
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#65
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tucker301</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That sounds like a good case for a defamation suit to me. </div></div>Casey Anthony is a public figure. </div></div>

Only because she was made to be one by the media.
Not of her own choosing.
 
#66
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tucker301</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GardDog</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> </div></div> </div></div>
Really?
Then let's see if this one gets as much coverage as the Anthony case did. Absolutely Disgusting
I got a C note that says it won't.</div></div>
Tucker, I'd take you up on that bet, except'n I'd want 'the pot' to go towards paying a death squad to clean up all who were involved in that. Apparently. And yes, I put a name to that link in your quote. Oh man I can't believe how 'humans' can piss me off....
 
#67
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Because Nancy Grace personally highlighted this case and convicted her, part of me is GLAD she beat the system.

I know she will pay in the end, or maybe save us the effort and off herself but to see Nancy Grace vapor locking was WORTH it.

That woman has people convicted with her fake crying and screaming temper tantrums.

She had her convicted before the trial, and thus she was wrong.
 
#69
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArcticLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

She had her convicted before the trial, and thus she was wrong.

</div></div>

^^^^THIS^^^^^ For the win.

I dont know if she did or didnt do it, all I know, she was guilty before she stepped in the court room and somehow she was foun not guilty, not innocent, just not guilty.
 
#70
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jhedge, I see your point, I honestly do. And that is why the jury selection is SO IMPORTANT. To find people who do not already have an opinion in the matter. Is it flawed, yes, is it better than the rest of the world, I will venture yes.

This story would not have gotten any attention if it would have been "2yr old is found dead. suspect at large, believed to be an xyr old (male/female) legal citizen with no ties to family". If that would have been the story from the start Nancy Cunt Grace would never have covered it. But she was able to point the finger at the mother, get people rilled up about it (whether casey did it or not), and sent her to trial. 12 people of able body and sound mind, waded through evidence and found her not guilty. Is it right I dont know, were they wrong I dont know. They were there because they were as impartial as two lawyers could agree upon. That is why you werent summoned, that and you dont live in the state
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#71
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tucker301</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tucker301</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That sounds like a good case for a defamation suit to me. </div></div>Casey Anthony is a public figure. </div></div>Only because she was made to be one by the media.
Not of her own choosing. </div></div>Fair enough, but I don't see how Nancy Grace could damage Casey Anthony's reputation by calling her a murderer.
 
#73
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've watched this case from the onset and watched the last month on trial. Interestingly, there was zero evidence presented as to her guilt. It's just OJ part two. We know she did it but with such a shitty state case it was a given that she would go free. The system worked but it makes me sick in this case...

As to lying to the cops, I'm betting she'll get time served. So basically she's free to go.

Baez made his career on this one!

I bet we'll see her in porn movies by the end of the year (she'll never get a real job after this).</div></div>

Some of the jurors went public after the trial, most were "sick in their stomach" - they did think she was guilty of murder, but the evidence just wasn't there to prove it, which is why the verdict was what it was.
 
#76
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<span style="color: #3333FF"><span style="font-size: 11pt"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Our system of government, the one for which many have died to protect from Nazism and Communism, works. Used to be, as still is in dictatorships like China, one could be prosecuted for committing a crime against the government. Under Lenin and Stalin millions were incarcerated in the Gulags. Finally, the government there went ahead and bypassed the courts, then they bypassed incarceration, murdering citizens in their homes. The total number of humans (Roman Catholics including 4000 priests, Homosexuals, Poles, Jews...) the Nazis killed wasn't even a good days work for Stalin.

The young American lawyers and scholars in Philadelphia writing the Federalist Papers, and their immediate ancestors, had experienced political and religious persecution in Britain and hence their reason for re-locating to North America. They didn't come here because they were avid outdoorsman. Remember? We just celebrated Independence Day. That was not just a day everyone goes to the lake. We'd won a war with Britain and they decided to leave us alone and not tax us and rule us anymore. We'd been oppressed politically and otherwise. But it was finally over.

The New Government would have a Constitution as its base law, requiring it to bring a citizen prisoner to a court who had been elected by the citizens (72 hour bond hearing, right to a speedy trial, jury trial of our peers in felony cases, burden of proof on the government, etc.), all to safeguard against government oppression of its citizens; you and me! This is why Constitutional scholars were nervous when Bush & Co. pushed for wire tapping during those two administrations. This is the core of the argument between liberal and conservative constitutionalists.

Arguably to some but not to me, the Constitution was God inspired since God was invoked throughout the document and our currency bills. Incidentally, I certainly believe our government was God inspired. So, how about letting God be the judge of guilt or innocence. Its His job anyway, ultimately, unless the defendant is a risk to society in which case she may return like OJ and then incarceration will have another bite at the apple. Because the government was unable to prove the case then perhaps that was the way it was supposed to turn out. Accept it and move on. The jury heard the case the state put on and made a decision. That decision was based on the evidence. It is what it is. If anyone is to blame that would be perhaps the evidence gatherers or the state team.

If we will read the Constitution rather than rely on Nancy Grace for our legal education we will</span> be far ahe</span>ad in our intellect.

</span>
 
#77
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Do I think they had the evidence to put her to death? Not at all. I think the death penalty should be reserved for only those who have been proven guilty without a shadow of a doubt. Do I think the evidence was there to convict her of murder? Possibly... Definitely the manslaughter charge! Problem is, the jurors were judging based on the POSSIBILLITY of her getting sentenced to death vs. doing their job and judging her guilt or innocence, and that's where they failed.

It's sleazeballs like Baez that turned me away from law school. That's a team of smoke and mirrors shit bags, albeit talented ones.
 
#78
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One of the toughest things for laymen to understand is that, in a court of law, because of the burden of proof, it is not the defendant on trial but rather the State's case that is on trial. A jury, following its oath, judges the sufficency of the State's case. That is why some of these jurors may be sick about the verdict but voted "not guilty". Understand that the jury's verdict didn't say that she was innocent, the jury's verdict said "Florida didn't prove it to us beyond a reasonable doubt.
Obviously the court of public opinion does not work the same way.
 
#80
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Casey Simpson</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="color: #3333FF"><span style="font-size: 11pt"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Our system of government, the one for which many have died to protect from Nazism and Communism, works. Used to be, as still is in dictatorships like China, one could be prosecuted for committing a crime against the government. Under Lenin and Stalin millions were incarcerated in the Gulags. Finally, the government there went ahead and bypassed the courts, then they bypassed incarceration, murdering citizens in their homes. The total number of humans (Roman Catholics including 4000 priests, Homosexuals, Poles, Jews...) the Nazis killed wasn't even a good days work for Stalin.

The young American lawyers and scholars in Philadelphia writing the Federalist Papers, and their immediate ancestors, had experienced political and religious persecution in Britain and hence their reason for re-locating to North America. They didn't come here because they were avid outdoorsman. Remember? We just celebrated Independence Day. That was not just a day everyone goes to the lake. We'd won a war with Britain and they decided to leave us alone and not tax us and rule us anymore. We'd been oppressed politically and otherwise. But it was finally over.

The New Government would have a Constitution as its base law, requiring it to bring a citizen prisoner to a court who had been elected by the citizens (72 hour bond hearing, right to a speedy trial, jury trial of our peers in felony cases, burden of proof on the government, etc.), all to safeguard against government oppression of its citizens; you and me! This is why Constitutional scholars were nervous when Bush & Co. pushed for wire tapping during those two administrations. This is the core of the argument between liberal and conservative constitutionalists.

Arguably to some but not to me, the Constitution was God inspired since God was invoked throughout the document and our currency bills. Incidentally, I certainly believe our government was God inspired. So, how about letting God be the judge of guilt or innocence. Its His job anyway, ultimately, unless the defendant is a risk to society in which case she may return like OJ and then incarceration will have another bite at the apple. Because the government was unable to prove the case then perhaps that was the way it was supposed to turn out. Accept it and move on. The jury heard the case the state put on and made a decision. That decision was based on the evidence. It is what it is. If anyone is to blame that would be perhaps the evidence gatherers or the state team.

If we will read the Constitution rather than rely on Nancy Grace for our legal education we will</span> be far ahe</span>ad in our intellect.

</span> </div></div>

That SIR, is the best post I have read in a long damn time. Thank you for that. You are right on ALL accounts.
 
#81
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GardDog</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no idea why this kind of trial holds the interest of the news media for the entire country. </div></div>


I'm with you. How many children are killed or go missing every year and we don't hear a peep? We're being force fed by the media the crime of the week/month/year which generates the most income for them.
I just wish people would quit killing kids and good looking blond college students so we don't have to put up with this shit on the eternal news cycle.
For the last two weeks I've been watching the Discovery and History channels and Game of Thrones instead of news. Seems to go down a lot easier than the shrill talking heads....
JMHO
 
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