While I never measured them myself, CCI standards are reported to have thick rims which can give extraction/ejection hic-ups in some rifles.. I can tell you that they are the ONLY round to give me issues with positive extraction in my Savage B22 Precision. Fortunately, they are not the most accurate in this rifle so there is no need to chase that ghoul.
My 457 trigger was just OK. I couldn’t get it under 3lbs. I guess for most things that is OK, and for a factory trigger I understand why they wouldn’t go lower. Not much creep in it and i worked it up so that it was acceptable, but for precision work, I ordered Timney triggers for my 457 projects. Just got them today- new flat version of the Timney457 trigger.
Are you talking about going beyond the use of the set screw for weight? I couldn’t get it below 3lbs, and that was with unscrewing the damn thing.
And there's a 6 month wait. Of course it would take timney or tt that long or more to do a 2 stage, so I might as well get on the wait list.......
Mine was the same way. I could remove the set screw and it was still just under 3 lbs.
I don't doubt it. It gets rave reviews. I didn't see a price on his site, I probably missed it. Are they $200 like the 455 2 stage?
Yes, I think that includes shipping. I got mine a few months so I don’t remember. Mine is set up for BR, single stage 3oz. It’s just a matter of adjusting.
I had 1.234 on depth, 1.191 on insert? length for headspace .043 is that right? Somewhere, maybe this thread CZ sets headspace at .046, I'm trying to figure all this out. On triggers- CZ down to under 6oz (cut spring), Timney 3-4oz.
FWIW, a simple 5 min spring change can get the 457 trigger down to 12-20 oz . I've done all 3 of my 457's to date and am 95% happy with them. That said, I was going to try a Timney in my latest build but was backordered. They were out of stock near everywhere I looked. You were lucky to get them. I just did the rifle that was destined for last night. It's set right at 15 oz.
I just took a short piece of 0.062 rosin core solder, formed it into a "U" the same diameter of the rim of a cartridge, stuck it to the bolt with grease, closed the bolt. The outer edge of solder will get smashed and become the thickness of the headspace. Measure carefully with calipers. Kinda sorta similar to using plastigauge, but I couldn't find my old stash of plastigauge.
I just rec'd my new 457 LRP and I have the same problem. Did you solve it on yours and if so what did you do. Thanks,
You can order the pin and spacer from the CZ store or Pete's Pillars (all metal DIP brand) on Ebay. I just converted a .17 hmr to .22lr with the DIP kit and it's nice quality. Sorry, I don't have it handy to measure. The pin fit is pretty critical and precise . I'd be surprised if there was an exact match off MC to be honest.
So I had my CZ build apart last night to install an extended mag release so I took a measurement on the mag spacer pin too. It's .158" x .600". No taper on the ends. Whatever pin you came up with would have to be spot on. For the $6, I'd say just order the factory part when you get the spacer itself. hth.
Hmm. Obviously I had to use a little force, but it wasn't hard. Couple things I can think of. I have real lead solder. Not the lead free stuff. Lead is softer. It's also rosin core, not solid.
I just picked one up for my 457 from Snyder Precision (Cattleman99 on this site). Black Friday deal, shipped very quick.
snyderprecision.com
Have never gotten on the Bergara bandwagon, their centerfire rifles are fine but I've never been impressed enough to buy one, so I havent looked into it much.
I’ve only shot my MTR vs. my Savage Mark II BV, so cannot comment on your first questions.
Right - this helps. I was more wondering if its a known thing, where most guys are adding comb height, etc. If its not thats good news.
The Bravo uses a AICS sized mag slot which can make guiding those small CZ mags into place an Easter egg hunt. Most report that adding the Anarchy Outdoors Mag Well Filler designed for the Bravo cures any 10 round mag issues. ( There might be issues with 5 rounders if memory serves though ) I have no experience with the 457 and Bravo myself though.
But they also respond incredibly well to a simple spring change. I struggled to get any of my 457's below the 2# mark with factory adjustments. They were very decent but not quite as low as I wanted. A $2 spring change and I'm at 15 -20 oz on 3 different rifles. ( as selected).
The KRG Bravo for the CZ457 uses the CZ factory mags. When you're on their website, be sure you are reading descriptions of the rim fire models, there are differences (for example, the tooless lop set up for rim fire is $49, the centerfield one lots more).
Pretty curious myself. I have both and don't have a favorite at this point, but I'm leaning towards the B14R for target and competition and 457 for hunting. I know way more competitors that shoot the B14R, but that could be my area.
