Good eye! Yup that’s SGL 43. Are you local?Nice shooting. Where you at SGL 43 by chance? That bench and location look very familiar.
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Good eye! Yup that’s SGL 43. Are you local?Nice shooting. Where you at SGL 43 by chance? That bench and location look very familiar.
Not exactly. I live about 55 miles away in Jersey, but I like going there. I spent about five hours there last Tuesday sighting some optics and trying out a new MagnetoSpeed. There are no public ranges anywhere close to me.Good eye! Yup that’s SGL 43. Are you local?
I’m about a 30 minute drive but it’s not too bad.Not exactly. I live about 55 miles away in Jersey, but I like going there. I spent about five hours there last Tuesday sighting some optics and trying out a new MagnetoSpeed. There are no public ranges anywhere close to me.
I'm curious if that range was there before people built houses so close. Even on a cold day like last week the range was busy the entire time.
That does sound bizarre. I agree, that place is filthy. I also go to 205 in New Tripoli, which is a lot cleaner and about the same distance for me. 43 has the 25 yard lanes which is why I went there Tuesday, but there were pistol folks using them the entire time. I really want to go to 141 in Carbon for the 200/300 lanes. 2.5 hours away though, so sometime I'm going to get a hotel out that way and spend a couple of days. I'd love to try my 457 out there.Elverson is an OK SGL. It’s absolutely filthy which is why non shooters oppose them. There’s brass and steel cases everywhere. Nobody pulls their targets down and they just get shredded on the backstops. I commonly shoot at SGL ranges since there are a few I can get to within a 45 minute drive. 43 might be the worst of them.
Idk why but both times I’ve been there, there’s been guys shooting groups at 25 yards with 30-06, 7mm and a 300 win mag. I dont understand it. I asked the 300 win mag guy if he was sighting in he said no, just testing his setup and making sure it still shot good.
He never brought it to the 50 or 100 yard lanes either. Had to be one of the most bizarre things I’ve seen there
Sorry this has been awhile. The PDC chassis arrived yesterday. For rings I ended up getting Warne Mountain Tech mediums. Plenty of room, although I'll need to save for the expensive OEM throw lever from Vortex as I don't think there's room for the after market polymer ones.I look forward to seeing what you end up with. I have a couple that I wanted to put a bigger scope on just for accuracy testing, I just didn’t want to do it bad enough to buy rings and rail just to test, but if I know it’ll work I might. I have a 457 Trainer that I think might be more accurat than the MTR and VPT MTR I have.
I’ve shot at New Tripoli and 141 in carbon county, I had family in weatherly which is right down the road. I like 205 because it’s got the sporting clays field, which is hard to find. Both of them are worlds better than 43. I didn’t shoot the 200 yard lanes at 141 though. The back stops were in good shape so I dont know if they dont get used much or they just happened to replace them before I was there.That does sound bizarre. I agree, that place is filthy. I also go to 205 in New Tripoli, which is a lot cleaner and about the same distance for me. 43 has the 25 yard lanes which is why I went there Tuesday, but there were pistol folks using them the entire time. I really want to go to 141 in Carbon for the 200/300 lanes. 2.5 hours away though, so sometime I'm going to get a hotel out that way and spend a couple of days. I'd love to try my 457 out there.
HAHAHAHA, yes, because I never thought of just taking off the sight but leaving its base on the barrel until I read that! Those holes have been bugging me ever since. Maybe the original ring/scope combination I had on there was lower, I don't remember. (EDIT: must have been lower because it looks like the entire sight could fit under the current scope setup.)I see you completely removed the rear sight.
Gorgeous and happy shootingI don't know for sure but I believe that CZ reserves some upper level wood for the Royal model. They don't all look like the picture but I can say mine has some really nice figure and color throughout..
I’m about a 30 minute drive but it’s not too bad.
I was there Monday and Tuesday of last week, busy both days. Tuesday the temp gauge in my truck said 16° and I got there at 7:30, set up my stuff and waited until 8 to start shooting. By the time 8 came around I was one of 4 guys there.
Elverson is an OK SGL. It’s absolutely filthy which is why non shooters oppose them. There’s brass and steel cases everywhere. Nobody pulls their targets down and they just get shredded on the backstops. I commonly shoot at SGL ranges since there are a few I can get to within a 45 minute drive. 43 might be the worst of them.
Idk why but both times I’ve been there, there’s been guys shooting groups at 25 yards with 30-06, 7mm and a 300 win mag. I dont understand it. I asked the 300 win mag guy if he was sighting in he said no, just testing his setup and making sure it still shot good.
He never brought it to the 50 or 100 yard lanes either. Had to be one of the most bizarre things I’ve seen there
419 has a video on this on YT. Too busy to link right now.Guys with the CZ 457 MTR VPT with the Manners stock from CZ I'm getting ready to put an Area 419 Arca Rail on my rifle and I see most guys are attaching in front of the action screw using 2 T-Nuts drilling through the stock/barrel channel. I know on other Manners Stocks like the T4 - T6 some of them aren't completely flat on the bottom from the front action screw forward and Area 419 gives you a shim and longer action screw to attach the Arca Rails by your front action screw then 1 T-Nut drilled through the stock. How are you guys attaching 2 T-Nuts or front action screw and 1 T-Nut...? Anyone got any pics handy...? Just dont wanna go blazing holes through the stock till I figure the best way to mount.
For the 457 MTR Manners specifically or just Arca Rail install on the normal Manners Stocks...? I haven't found any with this specific combo but Ill double check...419 has a video on this on YT. Too busy to link right now.
I just installed one in a regular T6. Bought the spacer, kit came with longer front action Bolt and longer replacement bolt for where the barricade stop was on the T6. Added one T-nut in between and also used the existing spot where the sling stud was.For the 457 MTR Manners specifically or just Arca Rail install on the normal Manners Stocks...? I haven't found any with this specific combo but Ill double check...
After reading through from page one i found out what i need for my grandson’s MTR Varmit, now to find base and rings in Canada lol as most outfits won’t ship anything to do with firearms because of all the red tape they have to go through, thanks for sharingThat's what I like about the BScar 25 MOA rail on my 457 MTR - with an Athlon Cronus 4.5-29x56 in TPS TSR low rings, I don't need any sort of stock pack; in fact, I have a very solid cheek weld on the comb after getting my shooting eye aligned with the Cronus.
MDT in B.C has base for 457 and rings too at decent price. Or if you want 419 rail GoBigTactical also in B.C has them.After reading through from page one i found out what i need for my grandson’s MTR Varmit, now to find base and rings in Canada lol as most outfits won’t ship anything to do with firearms because of all the red tape they have to go through, thanks for sharing
Thank youMDT in B.C has base for 457 and rings too at decent price. Or if you want 419 rail GoBigTactical also in B.C has them.
What scope is that and what rings, asking as I’m in the process of setting one up for my grandson so far we have the MTR varmit and the vortex venom 5x25x56 , I’ve been reading where guys are saying that the area419 rail is to high but it looks like I’ll have to go that route as i can’t find the Dip or Scar rails in CanadaHere is mine, MTR all dialed in with Area 419 Gear. That group was shot with Eley Match EPS. She also likes to eat SK Standard plus!
The rings on that rifle are the Seekins High 1.26" rings and the glass is the new Vortex Venom. You can not beat the Venom or Strike Eagle at their price point. Super bright, super clear!!!! This is the first scope I have owned that when I shout paper at 50 yards with this rifle that i can see tiny pieces of confetti leave the target after ever shot!What scope is that and what rings, asking as I’m in the process of setting one up for my grandson so far we have the MTR varmit and the vortex venom 5x25x56 , I’ve been reading where guys are saying that the area419 rail is to high but it looks like I’ll have to go that route as i can’t find the Dip or Scar rails in Canada
That’s the same scope i have, when done it’ll be identical to yours, i also have the Athlon Midas Tactical 6x24x56 it’s mounted on my T1X, i actually prefer the Athlon the cross hairs and dot are finer . It’ll be interesting me with the T1X and my 18 year old grandson with his CZ lolThe rings on that rifle are the Seekins High 1.26" rings and the glass is the new Vortex Venom. You can not beat the Venom or Strike Eagle at their price point. Super bright, super clear!!!! This is the first scope I have owned that when I shout paper at 50 yards with this rifle that i can see tiny pieces of confetti leave the target after ever shot!
What ammo + what speed?Lilja told me their barrel would shoot 0.2-0.3” groups at 50 yards. The one I received crowds the lower end of that range with 5 shot groups.
What muzzle device is that?View attachment 7777112
I’ve posted picture of this rifle in the past, started out as an MTR w/ a vortex gen 2 3-18. But as I’ve become more addicted to shooting it, it’s evolved. Hindsight being 20/20 I wish I would have just bought the cheapest 457 offering - as I wasn’t expecting to want to do much to it.
Anyone have a proof barrel for theirs? I just recently received it and haven’t shot much out of it aside from bull cheaper ammo. I did pick up some Midas +, and 2 different SK offerings but haven’t had a chance to try it out yet. Curious as to what the barrel tends to like.
What muzzle device is that?
Check this ad out on RimfireCentral...Thanks guys. Looks like the MTR is probably the way to go and hope for the best on the factory barrel. Bass Pro/Cabelas has them in stock, ready to ship to a nearby store.
Shim the barrel???? To whatSeems to like Eley Match (black box) the best. The lot I have is 1075 FPS. At closer ranges (25-50 yds) the SK Rifle match performs almost as well. The SK has more vertical flyers the further out you go. I had to shim the barrel for a slight crush on the SK or the Eley wouldn’t extract all the time. It also made everything shoot tighter.
Light stoning the whole boltI used a white ceramic stone to take the rough edges off the s/n on a couple of my 457 bolts, but there's no need to go so far as to remove them. All it takes is a little light stoning to smooth the rough edges of those numbers.
Pretty sure that part of the bolt doesn't touch anything.Random question.
Has anyone taken and stoned the bottom of the bolt to get rid of the engraved numbers to see if it smooths up the action?
Winter time tinkering. I love the 457 and all the improvements but I still think it’s not as smooth as the 452/455 actions because of this.
It doesn’t impact how the gun shoots or cycles really, just a little pet peeve.
I know my bad. I'm set at .003. Just got 5 speeds each of 10x and Match waiting for a day to chro them. They shoot faster in that barrel!The lilja barrel come with shims to set the headspace based on your receiver.
How bout bolt guide, thats why its stoned down. Mine was rough when I got it.Pretty sure that part of the bolt doesn't touch anything.
I’ll have to look. Maybe that’s the issueHow bout bolt guide, thats why its stoned down. Mine was rough when I got it.
Stoned mine down and it did smooth up the action - not a lot, but some. Only took about 2 minutes. The more I shoot, the smoother it gets. Love the silky feel.I’ll have to look. Maybe that’s the issue
FWIW, I have the same BScar rail and am running an Athlon Helos 8-34x56 on Vortex med rings (1.06") and have a little over 1/16" clearance with the scope snap covers on. With a 50mm objective, the 0.92 rings will probably work, but it will likely be really close. Kinda depends on the actual OD of the lens. You may want to check with Arken and get the "exact" OD of the lens. You can set a straight edge on top of the rail and measure down to the barrel. Add that to the ring height and the total is the centerline of the scope. Subtract half the objective lens diameter and that will give you the clearance. Hope that makes sense to you.Hey guys,
I’m trying to pick out a scope for my 457 w/krg bravo. I’ve got a bscar 15moa rail on it. I’m horrible at math and can’t seem to confirm if a 50mm objective would fit or not. I’m looking at the Arken Gen2 4-16x50 combo which includes choice of rings (0.92/1.26/1.49). The bscar adds roughly 1/4” but even with the tall rings it doesn’t add up to 50mm… am I missing something? It’s a 34mm tube, can someone help a brother out?
Remember this: the objective diameter spec is the diameter of the lens itself. Add roughly 2mm for the thickness of the bell. Then divide that total by 2, so in this example, you get (50+2)/2=26mm.Hey guys,
I’m trying to pick out a scope for my 457 w/krg bravo. I’ve got a bscar 15moa rail on it. I’m horrible at math and can’t seem to confirm if a 50mm objective would fit or not. I’m looking at the Arken Gen2 4-16x50 combo which includes choice of rings (0.92/1.26/1.49). The bscar adds roughly 1/4” but even with the tall rings it doesn’t add up to 50mm… am I missing something? It’s a 34mm tube, can someone help a brother out?
You only need to comp for 1/2 the Bell Diameter. I run 1.25" rings on my 56mm Athlon and have plenty of room. The medium rings should be more than enough.Hey guys,
I’m trying to pick out a scope for my 457 w/krg bravo. I’ve got a bscar 15moa rail on it. I’m horrible at math and can’t seem to confirm if a 50mm objective would fit or not. I’m looking at the Arken Gen2 4-16x50 combo which includes choice of rings (0.92/1.26/1.49). The bscar adds roughly 1/4” but even with the tall rings it doesn’t add up to 50mm… am I missing something? It’s a 34mm tube, can someone help a brother out?