Couldn't write it any better lol.I love that they announced this.
Defiance tenacity simps in fucking tears right now.
If I didn't know better I would say the CDG action is the most elaborate trolling of a company in the history of trolling.
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Couldn't write it any better lol.I love that they announced this.
Defiance tenacity simps in fucking tears right now.
Oh God the mental images oh God why!? lol.Im not a fan of Bob and could care less what kinda stuff he does.
The other dude chooses to work for him.
my give a dang ran out.
The dumpster fire keeps my hands warm for a bit.
Not sorry for the visions in your head.
Its really just a 3 way circle jerk in an ice bath, post “weight loss workout”
Just close to a punchbowl.
Really? I was told previous orders will not be honored.I have an action on order with a deposit I am being told the price will be honored.
Did you pay for it?Really? I was told previous orders will not be honored.
They said orders with a deposit down would honor the old price. Orders with no deposit pay the new priceReally? I was told previous orders will not be honored.
Nope. Im a dealer. I had to call all my customers that actions were on order for and tell them that there previously quoted $995 tenacity is now $1595.Did you pay for it?
I understand that sucks. Like I said earlier in this thread the Tenacity might as well go away no one will buy them at the price of an Impact. I’m guessing they were losing their ass on that action and said we are either going to make money on selling them or not sell them at all.Nope. Im a dealer. I had to call all my customers that actions were on order for and tell them that there previously quoted $995 tenacity is now $1595.
Yep. That sucked calling everyone. But at the end of the day he owns the company and can do whatever he wants.I understand that sucks. Like I said earlier in this thread the Tenacity might as well go away no one will buy them at the price of an Impact. I’m guessing they were losing their ass on that action and said we are either going to make money on selling them or not sell them at all.
Now taking Reservations.... not the order kind, the Native American kind with big elk...Wonder if these guys will now make a limited production EOL rifle called the “High Fence Special”?
I understand that sucks. Like I said earlier in this thread the Tenacity might as well go away no one will buy them at the price of an Impact. I’m guessing they were losing their ass on that action and said we are either going to make money on selling them or not sell them at all.
I think they haven’t updated the entire site. The main Ruckus page has the new price, but when you select a submodel, it’s the old price.I see we all came here for the same thing. Guess that backlog’s gone.
The Ruckus Tactical is still $1385! Too bad that’s probably a typo.
Do you currently offer those actions under your flagship defiance name?A majority of the actions we produce are actually for hunting.
Do you currently offer those actions under your flagship defiance name?
Or was this in reference to actions you make for your sister company and others?
If they are not offered under the defiance brand is there any consideration being given to introducing them to the defiance line?
yepThat’s the company I figured, right down the street isn’t it
Oh gosh... Frank has mentioned in his new podcast (& confirms in thread) that The Extreme Group now has their eyes on Proof Research.![]()
What thread?Oh gosh... Frank has mentioned in his new podcast (& confirms in thread) that The Extreme Group now has their eyes on Proof Research.![]()
"We are losing money on our barrels, here is a 50% mark up"
I can see it now.
What thread?
It isn't just that Proof makes their own blanks, they are probably the largest "gunsmith" for our sport.Tbh I’m glad it’s proof
Give me one major barrel maker to roll the dice on never being able to buy another and I would pick that one.
This is not to say I won’t, I’d buy a mcmillan right now if it fit my needs for a project.
Oh good. I heard the rumor and was worried they were buying a good barrel company like Bartlein or Krieger.Oh gosh... Frank has mentioned in his new podcast (& confirms in thread) that The Extreme Group now has their eyes on Proof Research.![]()
I wish they had their sights on Benchmark, Hawkhill, Krieger, etc. Leave Bartlein and Proof alone.Oh good. I heard the rumor and was worried they were buying a good barrel company like Bartlein or Krieger.
We sure are a dogmatic and tribal bunch, aren't we?I wish they had their sights on Benchmark, Hawkhill, Krieger, etc. Leave Bartlein and Proof alone.
All I know is if Proof goes, PVA has my business again.We sure are a dogmatic and tribal bunch, aren't we?
gunwerx called...they want their M.O. backStock, check… action, check… barrel? Possibly Check
Stand by for over priced cookie cutter bullshit rifles that are “1,831.43 yds out of the box” riddled with QC issues and customer service that acts like you’re a burden when you inevitably need to call.
My thoughts exactly…gunwerx called...they want their M.O. back
Every rifle is cookie cutterStock, check… action, check… barrel? Possibly Check
Stand by for over priced cookie cutter bullshit rifles that are “1,831.43 yds out of the box” riddled with QC issues and customer service that acts like you’re a burden when you inevitably need to call.
Except ARC.Every rifle is cookie cutter
There are
4-5 action companies worth building off of
4-5 barrel mfg worth building off
4-5 stock/chassis worth building off
It’s great for us the consumer as we get great product, but nothing is different anymore
On a long enough timeline, the demand signals of use and what the market demands make cookie cutters of many things. AR companies and Glock imitators abound.It’s great for us the consumer as we get great product, but nothing is different anymore
I agree, I think the issues pop up when they try to pump them out at scale. I’m just being flippant.Every rifle is cookie cutter
There are
4-5 action companies worth building off of
4-5 barrel mfg worth building off
4-5 stock/chassis worth building off
It’s great for us the consumer as we get great product, but nothing is different anymore
What no link?On another board, the new guy running things laid out the problems the company was facing. The Tenacity seemed to be a large part of their issues.