some intimate CPR would have made the body cam footage a lot more enjoyable to watch thats for sure
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Derek Chauvin 'defense'
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some intimate CPR would have made the body cam footage a lot more enjoyable to watch thats for sure
I pretty sure only hookers give intimate CPR. And probably You, Jeepqueer, Chode, Solid7, Blablabang, all you dumb asses.
We’ll see how it plays out.
he’s like that.......
Afirm.
I’m happy to clarify or debate any point I made that you disagree with.
Is the committee for the purification of wrong thought in the house?
Hey you SJWs in here. There is a fresh police shooting going down in a suburb of Mpls right now. Riot going down right fucking now, all you super cringy DBs should book your plane tickets and get in here and fight the popo! C'mon dudes, fight the power y'all! You'll be so sad to see it on the news and know you weren't here burning it all down with your BLM BFFs.
They should get better police K9 training in that municipality. Never would have happened.
You don't "overdose" in a second. You die in one...well to be argued...but the process of overdosing started long before the neck restraint. He lied to cops about fentanyl - he said "he took too may drugs", but initially he denied it, any mentioned none by name. Had he been honest, I think he would have had Narcan sooner, so theoretically he has significant responsibility for his own death by his dishonesty. (And not all overdoses are treated the same. I had a family member OD on PCP who was resuscitated.) There was no attempt to check post-mortem adrenaline blood levels from his tumor, which I personally think was responsible for his ...call it "episodic claustrophobia"...that he WAS exhibiting at the time per the prosecution .I realize this blood test isn't perfect, a 24 hr. urine from a live person is ideal (I had this test myself), but still would have been useful. You have situational stress, adrenaline, nicotine, and methamphetamine constricting already 70 & 90% occluded coronary vessels, and add a massive amount of fentanyl suppressing respiratory drive - then by all of these above components together you get a massive decrease in coronary blood flow and oxygenation to cardiac muscle and you get a massive fatal heart attack. I honestly think even if Narcan had been used in time he still would have died, but that is just IMO. You add in restraint that left NO clinical or pathological marks on the neck per the prosecution's own pathologists - you decide how much weight to give the latter."So, does Narcan work on fentanyl? Yes, it does, but there are some things to keep in mind. While Narcan can work on fentanyl overdoses, these situations often happen extremely quickly, so it can be tough to act quickly enough to reverse a fentanyl overdose."
Does Narcan Work on Fentanyl? | The Recovery Village Drug and Alcohol Rehab
So, does Narcan work on fentanyl? Yes, it does, but there are some things to keep in mind. While Narcan can work on fentanyl overdoses, these situations often happen extremely quickly, so it can be tough to act quickly enough.www.therecoveryvillage.com
Again, I have no experience on restraint other than being subject to "blood chokes" by 4 different individuals in the engagement of consenting adult activities.
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The prosecution is saying it really didn’t have shit to do with drugs.
www.google.com
What to Know About the Trial of Derek Chauvin: Latest Updates (Published 2021)
Mr. Chauvin, a former Minneapolis police officer, was found guilty of manslaughter, second-degree murder and third-degree murder in the death of George Floyd.
This dog is old school, compression AND mouth to mouth:
(yes, this dog did win Crufts that year for that performance).
I'm going to do an unsolicited PSA here: When I was training at an esteemed university whose administration I now have zero respect for due to their policies after receiving CCP contributions; a young female was brought it in full cardiac arrest, had a history of chronic medical problems so it didn't look good. Her family, who had a medical professional background, realized she was essentially gone, and allowed every intern and resident in the ER to practice chest compressions with an artery-line in place to make sure each person's compressions were enough to generate wave-form (mean effective CPR). I can honestly say I can do CPR that matters purely because of that sacrifice -- yes you do break ribs and bruise chest in some depending on bone strength. Just to consider in living wills...
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The drugs aren’t on trial. Why would the prosecution possibly want to make a point that does anything to exonerate the defendant?The prosecution is saying it really didn’t have shit to do with drugs.
What to Know About the Trial of Derek Chauvin: Latest Updates (Published 2021)
Mr. Chauvin, a former Minneapolis police officer, was found guilty of manslaughter, second-degree murder and third-degree murder in the death of George Floyd.
The prosecution is saying it really didn’t have shit to do with drugs.
What to Know About the Trial of Derek Chauvin: Latest Updates (Published 2021)
Mr. Chauvin, a former Minneapolis police officer, was found guilty of manslaughter, second-degree murder and third-degree murder in the death of George Floyd.
They'd kinda have to, no?
Idk today is the first day I have read anything about it. (All of my previous postings were just meant to be rhetorical )
Theoretically they can be as ignorant as they want. The defenses job is to provide the evidence and experts to show what they are hiding, they can cross-examine the medical experts of the prosecution, and then up to the jury to decide.
The prosecution's experts are being paid by the prosecution. Yeah, they take an oath....so if the drugs are irrelevant why is Floyd's drugs dealer sitting that was next to him in the car at the time of arrest refusing to take the stand?The prosecution is saying it really didn’t have shit to do with drugs.
What to Know About the Trial of Derek Chauvin: Latest Updates (Published 2021)
Mr. Chauvin, a former Minneapolis police officer, was found guilty of manslaughter, second-degree murder and third-degree murder in the death of George Floyd.
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OK.....but what kind of riots would have resulted from this pic/videos, other than a bunch of socks getting “moist” ?
some intimate CPR would have made the body cam footage a lot more enjoyable to watch thats for sure
Nope. You’re way too fucking tedious for me to waste any time on.
Geez guys this is absolutely disgusting:
There is absolutely no reason for them not to be wearing matching lingerie and wearing someone else's is just plain gross.
some intimate CPR would have made the body cam footage a lot more enjoyable to watch thats for sure
There is absolutely no reason for them not to be wearing matching lingerie and wearing someone else's is just plain gross.
I can't wait for the other side of the game. The prosecutor puts out his narrative, too bad that in this case he has the msm's help, and everyone looks at the info and says guilty. Then the defense team puts on their case and the majority change their minds. A bunch are confused about guilt, innocent or not guilty. And Chauvin walks.
Then we get to see the city burns for a few weeks.
Then we get to see the city burns for a few weeks.
With the shooting of the black guy by the police down there today and the rukus that stirred up with none of them knowing any facts, I think that no matter what the jury finds there will be a hella riot. Maybe a fire or 20 and free TVs and whatever else they can get their hands on.
IMO-They'll riot either way.
Not guilty=injustice
Guilty=confirmation of systemic racism
In reality, it's a bunch of welfare bums looking for an excuse to act like wild animals.
Yea! The game I was taught by my old man growing up, if someone hits you once first, you hit them 100 times! Worked for me!
If you really want the play by play check out Andrew Branca and his daily narrative of the trial. He wrote the book “The law of Self Defense” if you carry you should read this book. His tag line is you carry a gun so your hard to kill know the law so your hard to convict. This trial is not going how the media portrays it.
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- At, but not hit
- Yes, mistaken identity
- See above
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Point?
My answers are similar.
My point was I suspect the majority of most the people talking only know what it’s like to be arrester not arrestee.
Obviously that don’t apply to you.
And while that other shooting in Arizona people keep bringing up is sad and tragic, I really have to ask.. suspected illegal tint? In this day and age a officer wants to stop someone over tint? If I was gonna get shot at work I’d want it to be a legitimate stop. Not some bs about tint. Warrantless stop..
That’s about as messed up as someone who likes posing with murdered American burnt bodies after burning down a compound becoming head of a criminal alpha bet org.
Im just going to add this. Had a PSD been used in the initial interaction, i doubt we would even be talking about this. There more than likely would have been 100% compliance from Floyd. It has been proven that perps comply WAY more to a officer with a K9 than an officer with a gun. Dogs like that tap into a natural fear and sense of self preservation due to the perp knowing damn well, that dog isn't worried about getting sued/fired as opposed to an officer that has to think about those things before pulling a trigger. I know a gun wasn't used in this situation but the dog would have made this shit a lot easier.
Or just let him sit on the curb once cuffed till EMS got there, then have a cop ride with him to the ED, been done a million times by cops who didn’t end up on the news, ain’t like that tub of goo was going to get away by outrunning anyone, heck he’d probably have died if he tried to jog a quarter mile. I wonder once cuffed and sitting if he even had the core strength the stand up without assistance. Guy was not exactly seal team six or Jackie Chan.
Agreed, but they continue to push their narrative that he's as good as convicted so that if the jurors don't convict (a very brave move for them personally), then the media can turn around and say 'see, this was a slam dunk trial and he got off, therefore systemic racism still exists in this evil country' because it couldn't possibly just be the fact that reasonable doubt was demonstrated by the defense.
From my perspective, you know the prosecution is either A) doing a cruddy job or B) has an extremely weak case when the defense recalls some of the prosecution's witnesses as their own. On top of that the doctor (a prosecution witness) testified very clearly that the drugs Floyd had in his system were in fact capable of causing the medically declared cause of death by themselves. They've demonstrated that the knee looks like it wasn't actually on his neck (more like high on his back) and they've shown that Chauvin wasn't even using the most force allowed by the PD. The police chief hesitantly answering the defense attorney's question was of particular interest when asked if Chauvin's knee appeared to be not on his neck but on his shoulder blade. After asked the question the answer was "ummm (LONG delay) yes". The defense hasn't even brought their side yet, but at this point in a normal trial the jury should exonerate, but given the media's pressure and the threats the jurors are probably facing, who knows.
I agree
Thing is with out of shape fat people, especially on opioid like drugs. There was a instance at my old job where a fat person was on a stretcher, transfer type arrangement, there was a lap belt and chest straps, kinda like a race car seatbelt, well the Pt shifted during the transfer and the belts did their job from keeping Pt from rolling off the stretcher, however just that persons weight on the belts caused a MAJOR drop in spo2, with a good bit of muscle we got the situation sorted, but I could only imagine what the numbers would have looked like if they were slammed face down on pavement, forget adding the weight of a grown man on their back.
Once cuffed and flat on the ground, I doubt if that guy could have even gotten back onto his two feet by himself.
I still think it very improbable that he’s guilty of murder beyond a reasonable doubt. It’ll be a not guilty
I hate that this is even a question that might matter. This is the major injustice the media has dealt to us and especially to these officers especially Chauvin. This should be a trial of 'did this police officer murder this man while arresting him' instead they have turned it into 'this white cop murdered this black man because he was black, now we just need the court to convict'
To answer your question, I have no clue, and I hope for their and Chauvin's sake that nobody knows anything about them. Their identities should be kept very secret given the high profile nature of this case.
You think someone dumb enough to use fentanyl and meth has the brain cells required for rational thought, let alone while they’re high as fuck on it? You’re giving that dude way too much credit.
The dumb fuck would have fought the dog wondering why he’s getting bitten or why he’s even being arrested in the first place. That’s how that would have gone down would he have survived that way? Probably not.
When you’re beating the shit out of yourself in the back of a patrol car they have to restrain you so you don’t hurt yourself and sue the department. When you’re a giant and also high as fuck they may have to use to unconventional methods when that standard methods don’t work so that you don’t hurt yourself, especially when you tell the cops you have COVID and don’t have a mask and are spitting. When you’re high as fuck and fighting a losing battle with police you may go into cardiac arrest. That’s how that works. Don’t be a retard and stuff will usually work itself out.
Had Floyd not passed a counterfeit $20 bill and had he not been eating a bunch of drugs... He would be alive today
I hear you, but it happens all the time. There is a chance that what you predicted would happen but its almost a guarantee it would happen without the presence of a dog. seriously. We would get emails from officers/departments that purchased dogs from us telling us about call outs that were pretty similar situations to Floyds. Dude was kirk'n out on the officers then K9 comes in and his demeanor completely changes when there is a snarling drooling 85lb pointy eared monster standing in front of him about to fuck his shit up. It taps into something primal. And there are the times where some dumbass thinks he can take it or doesn't care, then the dog shows them otherwise. Either way, Floyd gets bit, fuckered up, and cuffed, and the K9 stands by wanting more and Floyd thinks twice about calling his bluff for round 2. Im under no delusion that there can be a K9 on every call out but it wouldve helped the situation had there been one present.
Monday morning quarterbacking and shit..
Same logic, should EMS, doctors, etc be forgiven any transgressions when they work on a heart attack if the person is fat?
“If John wouldn’t have stuffed his face with crap he’d still be alive”
Somehow I don’t think that’s a valid defense, not with a employer, not with the medical boards, not in a court of law.
Some persons dumb choices do not give one carte blanche to abuse them or be negligent in ones duties.
Or the dog would have caused his death, like stressing a sick cow, I just don’t get how the use of that much force was needed on a unarmed fat ass that can’t even touch his own toes, ain’t like he can [Successfully] run away lol
When was the last headline case of a doc being criminally prosecuted for malpractice?
I actually think this is pretty good reasoning. Of course, "police dogs are racist" as everybody knows, and if you got a video of it, people would be annoyed, but the country sure as hell wouldn't have burned.
It happens all the time, unlike police, for reasons beyond me, doctors even carry malpractice insurance.
