Not all are created equal.
Having worked in the crane industry for 35 years I've been around a few myself and yes some wind farms most definitely make noise.
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Drones swarm Northern Colorado
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Having worked in the crane industry for 35 years I've been around a few myself and yes some wind farms most definitely make noise.
Do you guys have separate "Global Warming Crisis" and a "Diversity Coordinator" section in your local town government - Ive become really used to them and cant imagine living without them.
Have one of those contraptions crash into a home while hovering, cause a truck crash into a ditch, or take out a power line and you'll see but then again I'm sure it will just end up as a cost overrun when they turn in their next total cost estimate to Uncle Sugar.
We'll make a position for you during the off-hours, off the record township meeting......
I guess every town now needs a "Global Warming Crisis Advisor" right next to their Foreign policy Advisor, their own Secretary of Defense, U.N. Ambassador, and their own Director of Intelligence. LOL So far we haven't reached those heights of the Cliffs of Insanity yet.
Go read one of my earliest posts in this thread. There's a benefit to running these over a civilian environment...
I wont even ask for the exorbitant pay our dead weight gets.......Ill do it for $100K with transportation and a pension of 75%, retirement after 5 years of service or 100% if I hurt my back changing paper in the copier........you will probably only have to raise taxes a little.
The Denver Local News Channel 2 and Fox 31 reported on this again this morning with some better video clips.
They also reported that NE Colorado LE agencies are having a meeting tonight to try and make sense of this whole bin of shit.
The meeting place and time are not being put out and I don't blame the LE agencies at all for that as every farmer and anyone else that is outdoors at night would be there, cell phone in hand and saying something like,"Look at this shit, this was over my barn, etc. "
I don't think this is something nefarious but do wonder WTF, why cause such a stir and not tell everyone what is going on, then we wouldn't have reason to wonder.
I think the only people that have not seen these things are people that don't venture out at night at all and Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder.
They also reported that NE Colorado LE agencies are having a meeting tonight to try and make sense of this whole bin of shit.
The meeting place and time are not being put out and I don't blame the LE agencies at all for that as every farmer and anyone else that is outdoors at night would be there, cell phone in hand and saying something like,"Look at this shit, this was over my barn, etc. "
I don't think this is something nefarious but do wonder WTF, why cause such a stir and not tell everyone what is going on, then we wouldn't have reason to wonder.
I think the only people that have not seen these things are people that don't venture out at night at all and Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder.
https://apnews.com/58a4ee8fa66dbb2e82be31fdba479d9d
I think they are all lying! Closed door meetings, you know we pay thier salaries.
They should be reporting directly to us.
If not national security we should know.
I'm sure some of you privileged types will see it another way.
I think they are all lying! Closed door meetings, you know we pay thier salaries.
They should be reporting directly to us.
If not national security we should know.
I'm sure some of you privileged types will see it another way.
Now they're blaming the NRA... Tongue n Cheek, but some are probably taking it seriously.
www.westword.com
Ten Explanations for the Mysterious Drones Over the Plains
Governor Polis has called for a full investigation. In the meantime...
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I thought CNN was still on cable but I guess they get better reception with their tinfoil hats.Now they're blaming the NRA...
Ten Explanations for the Mysterious Drones Over the Plains
Governor Polis has called for a full investigation. In the meantime...
Don’t you guys know that this is all being run out of that time travel portal at Cheyenne Mountain?
Sheesh...
Sirhr
Sheesh...
Sirhr
Now they're blaming the NRA... Tongue n Cheek, but some are probably taking it seriously.
Ten Explanations for the Mysterious Drones Over the Plains
Governor Polis has called for a full investigation. In the meantime...
The NRA doesnt need a secret plan to scare people into buying guns.
The democrats do that openly every time the push legislation.
Did you look at the author? I guess with a name like “Teague”, he had no choice but to be a millennial dooshbag.
Well, by God, the LE did have their meeting in Ft. Morgan, CO yesterday. As much as they tried to keep it on the down low, and I don't blame them as it could have quickly turned into a clusterfuck, a News Channel was there and could tell us nothing other than a meeting took place.
The LE put out a statement that they know this is going on and have had Deputies on the ground watching them trying to figure it out.
The problem being is that the drones fly away from the roads the Deputy is on and therefore are not able to be tracked. We don't have a lot of roads out here.
As stated in a post above, Watch the ground and where these things are coming from. Sage advice.
Now LE has asked people to BOLO as to Vans and Trailers with antennas on them and report that so they can get a handle on this shit.
These things have to come back for a charge or refueling sometime.
There are now reports of the things far to the west of us around Castle Rock but they are still here in my area too. Their mission is not finished. But, what is that Mission? and why be so secretive? They fly in the dark with lights so anybody can see them and wonder WTF.
The LE put out a statement that they know this is going on and have had Deputies on the ground watching them trying to figure it out.
The problem being is that the drones fly away from the roads the Deputy is on and therefore are not able to be tracked. We don't have a lot of roads out here.
As stated in a post above, Watch the ground and where these things are coming from. Sage advice.
Now LE has asked people to BOLO as to Vans and Trailers with antennas on them and report that so they can get a handle on this shit.
These things have to come back for a charge or refueling sometime.
There are now reports of the things far to the west of us around Castle Rock but they are still here in my area too. Their mission is not finished. But, what is that Mission? and why be so secretive? They fly in the dark with lights so anybody can see them and wonder WTF.
They were over Lamar last night. There are only three or four motels here. Had I seen them last night, I would have staked them out, to see who got in late. I will keep an eye out tonight and see if I can see anything.
You’d think someone would be spotted changing the batteries on them. Is it possible they each have solar cells and just recharge during the day? Land on top of buildings maybe?
The AV guys flying around here are sure on the lookout for these things. I talked to one of them. He flies a lot.
I hope none of them hit a drone Bad times for all involved.
I hope none of them hit a drone Bad times for all involved.
Anybody bother to ask Apple? 
www.macrumors.com
Apple Hires Drone and Aviation Law Expert as Washington Lobbyist
Apple has retained Lisa Ellman, a lawyer specializing in drone and aviation law, as a Washington lobbyist, reports Bloomberg. Ellman, a partner at...
www.macrumors.com
Anybody bother to ask Apple?
Apple Hires Drone and Aviation Law Expert as Washington Lobbyist
Apple has retained Lisa Ellman, a lawyer specializing in drone and aviation law, as a Washington lobbyist, reports Bloomberg. Ellman, a partner at...
Bingo.
There is so much uninhabited country out here, there are a million places you could park a truck, unload a bunch of drones, do your thing, load up and leave, with little chance of someone stumbling onto you.
Phalanx, huh? 200yd, huh?
Try being fast asleep 500yd downrange in 'Nam when the 175mm Long Toms got a fire mission waaaaay up North...
The cots levitated.
Phalanx. Riiight...
Try being fast asleep 500yd downrange in 'Nam when the 175mm Long Toms got a fire mission waaaaay up North...
The cots levitated.
Phalanx. Riiight...
Not a lot that I have heard of out here now in NE Colorado, but there sure were a lot of "Something's going on." in the past few weeks.
I think they have moved on to some other place they want to look at. What are they looking at or for? I haven't a clue.
The people that have seen them here are not just a bunch of Hicks from the Sticks, these things were with out doubt flying around.
They were seen by many very reputable people to include LEOs watching for them and I saw them myself.
I think it was a survey of some sort but do NOT understand why it was so secret, the things had lights on them, so easy to see.
We will probably never know, or will we at a later date? I hope so. FM
I think they have moved on to some other place they want to look at. What are they looking at or for? I haven't a clue.
The people that have seen them here are not just a bunch of Hicks from the Sticks, these things were with out doubt flying around.
They were seen by many very reputable people to include LEOs watching for them and I saw them myself.
I think it was a survey of some sort but do NOT understand why it was so secret, the things had lights on them, so easy to see.
We will probably never know, or will we at a later date? I hope so. FM
I heard of a pilot who was at 2300’ ft had a drone come directly at him. Pulled up hard to divert and when he leveled off all the drones he saw previously had gone dark.
Another thing I heard was something might have went missing/stolen from one of the Air Force bases in the area. All speculation tho.
Another thing I heard was something might have went missing/stolen from one of the Air Force bases in the area. All speculation tho.
They were over Holly 2 nights ago, working their way around, mapping makes a lot of sense.
They have been sighted over pretty much the entire eastern half of Colorado, as well as parts of western KS and NE. I am not sure they could be considered to be flying out of any one area. Unless these things have some crazy range, they are being moved around and launched. There is not an air force base within 150 miles of Holly.
Fact, fiction.... Smoke and Mirror's... Scare Tactics.... I don't know Hobo
WASHINGTON (AP) – The FBI is operating a small air force with scores of low-flying planes across the country carrying video and, at times, cellphone surveillance technology – all hidden behind fictitious companies that are fronts for the government, The Associated Press has learned.
The planes’ surveillance equipment is generally used without a judge’s approval, and the FBI said the flights are used for specific, ongoing investigations. In a recent 30-day period, the agency flew above more than 30 cities in 11 states across the country, an AP review found.
Aerial surveillance represents a changing frontier for law enforcement, providing what the government maintains is an important tool in criminal, terrorism or intelligence probes. But the program raises questions about whether there should be updated policies protecting civil liberties as new technologies pose intrusive opportunities for government spying.
U.S. law enforcement officials confirmed for the first time the wide-scale use of the aircraft, which the AP traced to at least 13 fake companies, such as FVX Research, KQM Aviation, NBR Aviation and PXW Services. Even basic aspects of the program are withheld from the public in censored versions of official reports from the Justice Department’s inspector general.
“The FBI’s aviation program is not secret,” spokesman Christopher Allen said in a statement. “Specific aircraft and their capabilities are protected for operational security purposes.” Allen added that the FBI’s planes “are not equipped, designed or used for bulk collection activities or mass surveillance.”
But the planes can capture video of unrelated criminal activity on the ground that could be handed over for prosecutions.
Some of the aircraft can also be equipped with technology that can identify thousands of people below through the cellphones they carry, even if they’re not making a call or in public. Officials said that practice, which mimics cell towers and gets phones to reveal basic subscriber information, is rare.
Details confirmed by the FBI track closely with published reports since at least 2003 that a government surveillance program might be behind suspicious-looking planes slowly circling neighborhoods. The AP traced at least 50 aircraft back to the FBI, and identified more than 100 flights since late April orbiting both major cities and rural areas.
One of the planes, photographed in flight last week by the AP in northern Virginia, bristled with unusual antennas under its fuselage and a camera on its left side. A federal budget document from 2010 mentioned at least 115 planes, including 90 Cessna aircraft, in the FBI’s surveillance fleet.
The FBI also occasionally helps local police with aerial support, such as during the recent disturbance in Baltimore that followed the death of 25-year-old Freddie Gray, who sustained grievous injuries while in police custody. Those types of requests are reviewed by senior FBI officials.
The surveillance flights comply with agency rules, an FBI spokesman said. Those rules, which are heavily redacted in publicly available documents, limit the types of equipment the agency can use, as well as the justifications and duration of the surveillance.
Details about the flights come as the Justice Department seeks to navigate privacy concerns arising from aerial surveillance by unmanned aircrafts, or drones. President Barack Obama has said he welcomes a debate on government surveillance, and has called for more transparency about spying in the wake of disclosures about classified programs.
“These are not your grandparents’ surveillance aircraft,” said Jay Stanley, a senior policy analyst with the American Civil Liberties Union, calling the flights significant “if the federal government is maintaining a fleet of aircraft whose purpose is to circle over American cities, especially with the technology we know can be attached to those aircraft.”
During the past few weeks, the AP tracked planes from the FBI’s fleet on more than 100 flights over at least 11 states plus the District of Columbia, most with Cessna 182T Skylane aircraft. These included parts of Houston, Phoenix, Seattle, Chicago, Boston, Minneapolis and Southern California.
Evolving technology can record higher-quality video from long distances, even at night, and can capture certain identifying information from cellphones using a device known as a “cell-site simulator” — or Stingray, to use one of the product’s brand names. These can trick pinpointed cellphones into revealing identification numbers of subscribers, including those not suspected of a crime.
Officials say cellphone surveillance is rare, although the AP found in recent weeks FBI flights orbiting large, enclosed buildings for extended periods where aerial photography would be less effective than electronic signals collection. Those included above Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport and the Mall of America in Bloomington, Minnesota.
After The Washington Post revealed flights by two planes circling over Baltimore in early May, the AP began analyzing detailed flight data and aircraft-ownership registrations that shared similar addresses and flight patterns. That review found some FBI missions circled above at least 40,000 residents during a single flight over Anaheim, California, in late May, according to Census data and records provided by the website FlightRadar24.com.
Most flight patterns occurred in counter-clockwise orbits up to several miles wide and roughly one mile above the ground at slow speeds. A 2003 newsletter from the company FLIR Systems Inc., which makes camera technology such as seen on the planes, described flying slowly in left-handed patterns.
“Aircraft surveillance has become an indispensable intelligence collection and investigative technique which serves as a force multiplier to the ground teams,” the FBI said in 2009 when it asked Congress for $5.1 million for the program.
Recently, independent journalists and websites have cited companies traced to post office boxes in Virginia, including one shared with the Justice Department. The AP analyzed similar data since early May, while also drawing upon aircraft registration documents, business records and interviews with U.S. officials to understand the scope of the operations.
The FBI asked the AP not to disclose the names of the fake companies it uncovered, saying that would saddle taxpayers with the expense of creating new cover companies to shield the government’s involvement, and could endanger the planes and integrity of the surveillance missions. The AP declined the FBI’s request because the companies’ names — as well as common addresses linked to the Justice Department — are listed on public documents and in government databases.
At least 13 front companies that AP identified being actively used by the FBI are registered to post office boxes in Bristow, Virginia, which is near a regional airport used for private and charter flights. Only one of them appears in state business records.
Included on most aircraft registrations is a mysterious name, Robert Lindley. He is listed as chief executive and has at least three distinct signatures among the companies. Two documents include a signature for Robert Taylor, which is strikingly similar to one of Lindley’s three handwriting patterns.
The FBI would not say whether Lindley is a U.S. government employee. The AP unsuccessfully tried to reach Lindley at phone numbers registered to people of the same name in the Washington area since Monday.
Law enforcement officials said Justice Department lawyers approved the decision to create fictitious companies to protect the flights’ operational security and that the Federal Aviation Administration was aware of the practice. One of the Lindley-headed companies shares a post office box openly used by the Justice Department.
Such elusive practices have endured for decades. A 1990 report by the then-General Accounting Office noted that, in July 1988, the FBI had moved its “headquarters-operated” aircraft into a company that wasn’t publicly linked to the bureau.
The FBI does not generally obtain warrants to record video from its planes of people moving outside in the open, but it also said that under a new policy it has recently begun obtaining court orders to use cell-site simulators. The Obama administration had until recently been directing local authorities through secret agreements not to reveal their own use of the devices, even encouraging prosecutors to drop cases rather than disclose the technology’s use in open court.
A Justice Department memo last month also expressly barred its component law enforcement agencies from using unmanned drones “solely for the purpose of monitoring activities protected by the First Amendment” and said they are to be used only in connection with authorized investigations and activities. A department spokeswoman said the policy applied only to unmanned aircraft systems rather than piloted airplanes.
(© Copyright 2015 The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Associated Press writers Sean Murphy in Oklahoma City; Joan Lowy and Ted Bridis in Washington; Randall Chase in Wilmington, Delaware; and news researchers Monika Mathur in Washington and Rhonda Shafner in New York contributed to this report.)
WASHINGTON (AP) – The FBI is operating a small air force with scores of low-flying planes across the country carrying video and, at times, cellphone surveillance technology – all hidden behind fictitious companies that are fronts for the government, The Associated Press has learned.
The planes’ surveillance equipment is generally used without a judge’s approval, and the FBI said the flights are used for specific, ongoing investigations. In a recent 30-day period, the agency flew above more than 30 cities in 11 states across the country, an AP review found.
Aerial surveillance represents a changing frontier for law enforcement, providing what the government maintains is an important tool in criminal, terrorism or intelligence probes. But the program raises questions about whether there should be updated policies protecting civil liberties as new technologies pose intrusive opportunities for government spying.
U.S. law enforcement officials confirmed for the first time the wide-scale use of the aircraft, which the AP traced to at least 13 fake companies, such as FVX Research, KQM Aviation, NBR Aviation and PXW Services. Even basic aspects of the program are withheld from the public in censored versions of official reports from the Justice Department’s inspector general.
“The FBI’s aviation program is not secret,” spokesman Christopher Allen said in a statement. “Specific aircraft and their capabilities are protected for operational security purposes.” Allen added that the FBI’s planes “are not equipped, designed or used for bulk collection activities or mass surveillance.”
But the planes can capture video of unrelated criminal activity on the ground that could be handed over for prosecutions.
Some of the aircraft can also be equipped with technology that can identify thousands of people below through the cellphones they carry, even if they’re not making a call or in public. Officials said that practice, which mimics cell towers and gets phones to reveal basic subscriber information, is rare.
Details confirmed by the FBI track closely with published reports since at least 2003 that a government surveillance program might be behind suspicious-looking planes slowly circling neighborhoods. The AP traced at least 50 aircraft back to the FBI, and identified more than 100 flights since late April orbiting both major cities and rural areas.
One of the planes, photographed in flight last week by the AP in northern Virginia, bristled with unusual antennas under its fuselage and a camera on its left side. A federal budget document from 2010 mentioned at least 115 planes, including 90 Cessna aircraft, in the FBI’s surveillance fleet.
The FBI also occasionally helps local police with aerial support, such as during the recent disturbance in Baltimore that followed the death of 25-year-old Freddie Gray, who sustained grievous injuries while in police custody. Those types of requests are reviewed by senior FBI officials.
The surveillance flights comply with agency rules, an FBI spokesman said. Those rules, which are heavily redacted in publicly available documents, limit the types of equipment the agency can use, as well as the justifications and duration of the surveillance.
Details about the flights come as the Justice Department seeks to navigate privacy concerns arising from aerial surveillance by unmanned aircrafts, or drones. President Barack Obama has said he welcomes a debate on government surveillance, and has called for more transparency about spying in the wake of disclosures about classified programs.
“These are not your grandparents’ surveillance aircraft,” said Jay Stanley, a senior policy analyst with the American Civil Liberties Union, calling the flights significant “if the federal government is maintaining a fleet of aircraft whose purpose is to circle over American cities, especially with the technology we know can be attached to those aircraft.”
During the past few weeks, the AP tracked planes from the FBI’s fleet on more than 100 flights over at least 11 states plus the District of Columbia, most with Cessna 182T Skylane aircraft. These included parts of Houston, Phoenix, Seattle, Chicago, Boston, Minneapolis and Southern California.
Evolving technology can record higher-quality video from long distances, even at night, and can capture certain identifying information from cellphones using a device known as a “cell-site simulator” — or Stingray, to use one of the product’s brand names. These can trick pinpointed cellphones into revealing identification numbers of subscribers, including those not suspected of a crime.
Officials say cellphone surveillance is rare, although the AP found in recent weeks FBI flights orbiting large, enclosed buildings for extended periods where aerial photography would be less effective than electronic signals collection. Those included above Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport and the Mall of America in Bloomington, Minnesota.
After The Washington Post revealed flights by two planes circling over Baltimore in early May, the AP began analyzing detailed flight data and aircraft-ownership registrations that shared similar addresses and flight patterns. That review found some FBI missions circled above at least 40,000 residents during a single flight over Anaheim, California, in late May, according to Census data and records provided by the website FlightRadar24.com.
Most flight patterns occurred in counter-clockwise orbits up to several miles wide and roughly one mile above the ground at slow speeds. A 2003 newsletter from the company FLIR Systems Inc., which makes camera technology such as seen on the planes, described flying slowly in left-handed patterns.
“Aircraft surveillance has become an indispensable intelligence collection and investigative technique which serves as a force multiplier to the ground teams,” the FBI said in 2009 when it asked Congress for $5.1 million for the program.
Recently, independent journalists and websites have cited companies traced to post office boxes in Virginia, including one shared with the Justice Department. The AP analyzed similar data since early May, while also drawing upon aircraft registration documents, business records and interviews with U.S. officials to understand the scope of the operations.
The FBI asked the AP not to disclose the names of the fake companies it uncovered, saying that would saddle taxpayers with the expense of creating new cover companies to shield the government’s involvement, and could endanger the planes and integrity of the surveillance missions. The AP declined the FBI’s request because the companies’ names — as well as common addresses linked to the Justice Department — are listed on public documents and in government databases.
At least 13 front companies that AP identified being actively used by the FBI are registered to post office boxes in Bristow, Virginia, which is near a regional airport used for private and charter flights. Only one of them appears in state business records.
Included on most aircraft registrations is a mysterious name, Robert Lindley. He is listed as chief executive and has at least three distinct signatures among the companies. Two documents include a signature for Robert Taylor, which is strikingly similar to one of Lindley’s three handwriting patterns.
The FBI would not say whether Lindley is a U.S. government employee. The AP unsuccessfully tried to reach Lindley at phone numbers registered to people of the same name in the Washington area since Monday.
Law enforcement officials said Justice Department lawyers approved the decision to create fictitious companies to protect the flights’ operational security and that the Federal Aviation Administration was aware of the practice. One of the Lindley-headed companies shares a post office box openly used by the Justice Department.
Such elusive practices have endured for decades. A 1990 report by the then-General Accounting Office noted that, in July 1988, the FBI had moved its “headquarters-operated” aircraft into a company that wasn’t publicly linked to the bureau.
The FBI does not generally obtain warrants to record video from its planes of people moving outside in the open, but it also said that under a new policy it has recently begun obtaining court orders to use cell-site simulators. The Obama administration had until recently been directing local authorities through secret agreements not to reveal their own use of the devices, even encouraging prosecutors to drop cases rather than disclose the technology’s use in open court.
A Justice Department memo last month also expressly barred its component law enforcement agencies from using unmanned drones “solely for the purpose of monitoring activities protected by the First Amendment” and said they are to be used only in connection with authorized investigations and activities. A department spokeswoman said the policy applied only to unmanned aircraft systems rather than piloted airplanes.
(© Copyright 2015 The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Associated Press writers Sean Murphy in Oklahoma City; Joan Lowy and Ted Bridis in Washington; Randall Chase in Wilmington, Delaware; and news researchers Monika Mathur in Washington and Rhonda Shafner in New York contributed to this report.)
Chasing drone reports, a new mission for Colorado’s Multi-Mission Aircraft One of Colorado’s two Pilatus PC-12 “Multi-Mission Aircraft” (MMA), which are primarily used for detecting and mapping wildfires, flew missions related to the swarms of drones that have been seen over Colorado and Nebraska. The MMA is assisting a number of agencies are trying to figure out what the drones are doing, including the FBI, FAA, Air Force, and the Army. There are reports that up to 30 drones at a time have been flying in sparsely populated areas of the two states in recent weeks
I grew up in that part of the world. I see lots of potential explanations but am having trouble finding anything that fits. The flight patterns I have seen stay south and east of the missile installations. There is a lot of newish wind generation in the area but like all above-ground infrastructure, it would be much easier to just grab publically-available aerial imagery. Since they fly mostly at night, they are limited to heat signature imagery. In that part of the world in winter that means cattle, lots of cattle. I have also seen comments about mineral mapping. Subsurface mapping takes a huge amount of energy, think torpedo sized instruments slung below helicopters. They could be collecting LIDAR elevation data but Again, why? USGS quadrangle maps get you close enough for anything you would need to accomplish on a large scale.
My unsatisfying guess is that someone is testing control software. NE Colorado and SW Nebraska are sparsely populated but have good cellular network coverage. I am guessing Someone is test driving a cellular-based control system. I am guessing that is the only way to do wide area drone deliveries etc without investing in a whole new tower infrastructure.
My unsatisfying guess is that someone is testing control software. NE Colorado and SW Nebraska are sparsely populated but have good cellular network coverage. I am guessing Someone is test driving a cellular-based control system. I am guessing that is the only way to do wide area drone deliveries etc without investing in a whole new tower infrastructure.
Can be used for mapping or also searching. LiDAR wavelength is shorter. It operates in ultraviolet, visible region or near infrared. This helps to image the matter which is of the same size or larger than the wavelength. So LiDAR can detect pollutant particles of carbon dioxide, Sulphur dioxide, and methane or other substances???
They're all over Denver. Haven't you heard? It's a "sanctuary city" with the excrement to prove it LOL! Crappy politicians = crappy laws = crappy sidewalks. Their hope - to keep voters focused on aliens from outer space, while the politicians from way out there push their own agenda through.
I have not seen nor heard much about them lately.
They damn sure were here and about for a while and even the LEOs saw them and tried to locate where they were coming from.
Now it is as quiet as a church mouse. Someone know something but it ain't leaking out.
They damn sure were here and about for a while and even the LEOs saw them and tried to locate where they were coming from.
Now it is as quiet as a church mouse. Someone know something but it ain't leaking out.
With so many people that give a fuck, why not CROWDFUND a goddamn solution!? Maybe buy a high tech, high speed drone with extended range and radar packages and follow it. When done with it, donate it to look for fires or lost kids or some shit. Win-win.
Probably wouldn't even have to follow through, once whoever is doing it got wind of this you'd either get an answer or it'd just stop.
Probably wouldn't even have to follow through, once whoever is doing it got wind of this you'd either get an answer or it'd just stop.
Strykervet, who in the fuck is going to pay for your idea?
To have a drone of the size we had around here you would have to invest some big bucks.
Do you have those bucks? I sure as hell don't and if I did I would not donate my drone to the Govt. no matter what they do with it.
They already have much better drones than I could ever fly.
To have a drone of the size we had around here you would have to invest some big bucks.
Do you have those bucks? I sure as hell don't and if I did I would not donate my drone to the Govt. no matter what they do with it.
They already have much better drones than I could ever fly.
