Night Vision Eotech Clip-IR SR MK2

[DownRangeThermal]

New for this yr is the MK2 SR FTS version (DRT exclusive) of the EOTECH CLIP-IR. This is the "short range" version of the new line-up of thermal optics from EOTECH. It has both stand alone and clip-on capabilities. It features an 18.5 degree FOV that is perfect for 1-6x type cqb optics. Comes on a locking Flip to Side mount that is built as well as any I have ever tested. It will have an onboard commercial IR laser for pointing out targets to NVG users. Lightweight and compact design .Price is TBD for now.. Super bright oled display with onboard video recording capabilities. 18 ounces with batteries installed. Fantastic as a stand alone or hand held as well. Expecting these late spring early summer timeframe.

 

[tigerrver]

Have you been able to compare performance against the SkeetIR-X ? FOV of the Clip-IR is slightly less, but curious about general thoughts between the two....

 

[DownRangeThermal]

While this is quite a bit larger than the skeet the stand alone and clip on capabilities are much better in my opinion with the SR. The skeet was originally designed to be a handheld first and everything else second ( IED search requirement) The SR was designed as a clip on first so you have a much more usable eyepiece that is fixed diopter so collimation is locked in. 3 AA batteries and internal shutter makes it much more user friendly in a C/O roll.

 

[EWS6]

looks kinda like the bae fws

 

[jstokes1]

Based on the FOV, the Voodoo S should out compete it as a clip on

 

[Travis224]

I love my voodoo S, but, I only have 1 . To have this as an addition seems like something I'd be interested in.

 

[DownRangeThermal]

Based on the FOV, the Voodoo S should out compete it as a clip on

Depends on what you're after. The Voodoo will defintely take more mag if that is what you mean. The Voodoo is smaller. The SR will run approx 3x longer, doesn't have an adjustable diopter, has internal shutter and is thousands less with a 10 yr warranty. I do love the VooDoo S but this will fill a role.

 

[EWS6]

Depends on what you're after. The Voodoo will defintely take more mag if that is what you mean. The Voodoo is smaller. The SR will run approx 3x longer, doesn't have an adjustable diopter, has internal shutter and is thousands less with a 10 yr warranty. I do love the VooDoo S but this will fill a role.

doesnt the voodoo have an internal shutter

 

[jstokes1]

doesnt the voodoo have an internal shutter

It does not, but you can run it off of external power and it takes a battery extender for 16650s if you so choose. You also have HMT capability; this doesn't. It will fit a role though, but the voodoo s to me is still undefeated in its category.

 

[Bri0242]

Will they be coming out with a CLIP-IR LR version 2 as well?

 

[cantankerous]

Will they be coming out with a CLIP-IR LR version 2 as well?

Theon has them. We'll have to see if they import them.

 

[rlsmith1]

Their website also says they have ATAK integration built in, is that accurate for these units as well? Excited about these!

 

[jstokes1]

While this is quite a bit larger than the skeet the stand alone and clip on capabilities are much better in my opinion with the SR. The skeet was originally designed to be a handheld first and everything else second ( IED search requirement) The SR was designed as a clip on first so you have a much more usable eyepiece that is fixed diopter so collimation is locked in. 3 AA batteries and internal shutter makes it much more user friendly in a C/O roll.

What about the image "density". I'm referring to look, depth perception, sensitivity, and realism.

 

[Evolution 9]

What about the image "density". I'm referring to look, depth perception, sensitivity, and realism.

Unless they departed drastically from their core/processing from the other Theon units, this will not compare favorably to any BAE/Voodoo core in terms of usefulness of the image to the human eye/brain.

There’s still a lot to like about this. True collimation is significantly better for my uses, and price and warranty are drastically better.

 

[jstokes1]

Unless they departed drastically from their core/processing from the other Theon units, this will not compare favorably to any BAE/Voodoo core in terms of usefulness of the image to the human eye/brain.

There’s still a lot to like about this. True collimation is significantly better for my uses, and price and warranty are drastically better.

I would agree with this. This is actually a unit that I'm quite interested in honestly. I have a weakness for small units like this.

 

[Conqueror]

No weight on the spec sheet is a bit strange

 

[avidflyer]

How is this going to compare to the TigIR? (Image and detection quality)

 

[rlsmith1]

How is this going to compare to the TigIR? (Image and detection quality)

The FOV is over twice that of the TIG which means it simply will not support the same magnification. However, there are a couple things that this unit will do better: (1) manual focus to refine the image at varying distances and (2) greater FOV will give broader image and really help at closer ranges.

I would expect this unit to do very well inside 300 yds and support up to ~6x mag (which is awesome). Now when I say 300 yds I mean give great detail. My NOX18 lets me spot deer at 1,000 yds, and this will outperform the NOX18 in every way except FOV (which is simply a tradeoff).

This unit has the same FOV as the RH25, but is built to military standards, has a built in laser and likely a better mount. If the 18 oz weight is hit then it's within an ounce of the RH25 with a battery and mount (see the C35 thread for measured popular clip on weights)

 

[DownRangeThermal]

No weight on the spec sheet is a bit strange

It didn't transfer on the copy and paste but I have one on hand and my weight I posted is correct

 

[Ppapago]

Will there be a chance to pre-order these? Also, what is the length of this unit?

 

[TheHorta]

looks kinda like the bae fws

Uhhh… yup.

 

[TheHorta]

I’ll be first in line for one. Would love to see how it compares to the FWS, SkeetX, Voodoo-S, and RH25.

I’ll bet, for the money and its intended use, it’s The Shizzle!

Assuming it performs similar to the FWS, the Elcan 1/4x will be its Soul Mate.

 

[TheHorta]

I should add, if the core is 640x480 as it says in the specs, that could be the BAE core. The Chinesium cores and, I think, the Flir Boson are 640x512.

The unit itself certainly seems like a BAE design. That doesn’t appear to be mere coincidence.

 

[Masba]

I should add, if the core is 640x480 as it says in the specs, that could be the BAE core. The Chinesium cores and, I think, the Flir Boson are 640x512.

The unit itself certainly seems like a BAE design. That doesn’t appear to be mere coincidence.

I was thinking same, there is no NEDT in specs but if it's BAE I think it is <50mK.

 

[Evolution 9]

Anyone who’s looked through one should be able to tell in a heartbeat. DRT?

 

[WhereNow&How]

Anyone who’s looked through one should be able to tell in a heartbeat. DRT?

Speak for yourself.

Them adult Sarsaparillas do funny things to some folks eyeballs.

 

[cantankerous]

I thought Theon was making their own cores?

I know the xELRs are available with a 40mk NEDT.
BAE is only in 50, right?

 

[TheHorta]

Yeah, a little birdie told me NOT BAE core.

That’s fine. If it’s the same 12um core in the ELR, then I have zero complaints.

 

[WhereNow&How]

Hark, that little midget is gonna haunt you nightly in your dreams if you don't tell us what is in it.

 

[Evolution 9]

I’d pay at least 2K extra for a BAE (or similar) core, but I’m excited about this either way. It fills a need.

Anecdotal story:

I was using a NOX35 as a spotter and Eotech/Theon LR on the gun. Spotted a wolf with the NOX. Approximately 220 yards in thick brush.

I set down the NOX and COULDN’T FIND the wolf at 220 yards with the LR!

I had to set the gun down and find it again with the NOX, pay close attention to how far it was from an unusual tree, then find it with the LR. The LR could hardly distinguish a wolf from the bushes (super obvious with the NOX).

The algorithms/core simply don’t compare to a BAE core. Period. End of discussion, and yes, the settings were optimized for the conditions.

Now, I’m aware that every situation is different, but this isn’t the only time the Theon has been lacking…

Another time, a friend with a Chinese super Yoter was commenting on the massive rack of a buck… I said, “yeah”… all I could see with the LR was a deer. No antlers whatsoever.

I’m a HUGE fan of the Theon units, for the clip on capability, insane 10 year warranty, and fairly good ACTUAL collimation. But damn, did they screw the pooch by arrogantly using their own core instead of the head-and-shoulders better BAE core.

 

[WhereNow&How]

That is some interesting data points.

 

[Bri0242]

I’d pay at least 2K extra for a BAE (or similar) core, but I’m excited about this either way. It fills a need.

Anecdotal story:

I was using a NOX35 as a spotter and Eotech/Theon LR on the gun. Spotted a wolf with the NOX. Approximately 220 yards in thick brush.

I set down the NOX and COULDN’T FIND the wolf at 220 yards with the LR!

I had to set the gun down and find it again with the NOX, pay close attention to how far it was from an unusual tree, then find it with the LR. The LR could hardly distinguish a wolf from the bushes (super obvious with the NOX).

The algorithms/core simply don’t compare to a BAE core. Period. End of discussion, and yes, the settings were optimized for the conditions.

Now, I’m aware that every situation is different, but this isn’t the only time the Theon has been lacking…

Another time, a friend with a Chinese super Yoter was commenting on the massive rack of a buck… I said, “yeah”… all I could see with the LR was a deer. No antlers whatsoever.

I’m a HUGE fan of the Theon units, for the clip on capability, insane 10 year warranty, and fairly good ACTUAL collimation. But damn, did they screw the pooch by arrogantly using their own core instead of the head-and-shoulders better BAE core.

I had the same experience as well with a Nox 18 & Theon LR

 

[Bri0242]

I heard, from a little birdie, that Eotech will not import a 2nd generation mid-range unit?

 

[Bri0242]

I may have seen one of the new SR & EXLR. They may have been beautiful and noticeably lighter than the previously gen (EXLR). The rear focus on the EXLR may have been more intuitive. The controls on the SR may have been rather complicated, but it may make a really nice scanner. I may be dumping some bucks soon...

 

[Conqueror]

I’m really hoping someone can comment on the experience of running the Gen 2 ELR. The only thing that makes me hesitate is that they did away with all the top buttons. To me that’s one of the strongest features of the Gen 1.5 - the user can EASILY and QUICKLY change polarity, NUC, take a photo, change image optimization modes and ROIs, brightness, and contrast, in the dark and with little training. Going to a control knob makes it seem like you’ll have to scroll through 5 menus to change the brightness.

 

[Bri0242]

Any updates on delivery of these little beauties?

 

[bmicek]

Any update on price and availability?

 

[Bri0242]

I heard June

 

[Bri0242]

Any updates?

 

[Bri0242]

Any updates?

 

[DownRangeThermal]

Should have an update next week from the source. These things always seem to take longer than longer than expected My best guess today would be August. I know they are tweaking the final firmware.

 

[Bri0242]

Any updates by chance?

 

[Bri0242]

Any updates by chance?