FBI failure on tips for school shooter?

#51
the fbi is worthless. from where i am standing, they're too busy chasing russian bogeymen to do the job they are supposed to be doing. but hey, they were founded by some degenerate asshole like maser who liked to dress in womens panties, so their legacy is pretty queer anyway. and from what has been revealed so far, they are neck deep in participating in an active coupe attempt.

i got $20 that says if i fucked up and did 1 thing (like a domestic abuse call) law enforcement would be so far up my ass they'd be able to tell that i have another wisdom tooth that needs to be pulled.

if i was this fucking inept at my job, i'da been shitcanned 15 years ago. they get no cover or sympathy from me. disband the whole fucking deal and lock up every and all cocksuckers involved in this uranuim one, dossier, and fast and furious shit. they are so neck deep in all this shit, i can't even remember all the scandles anymore. that's corruption on a level that is beyond anything i could ever have imagined. and a bigger threat to america than anything else i can imagine at this point.

they are damn lucky i aint the man. they'd be fuck T-H-R-motherfuckin-U.
 
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Alphatreedog said:
.....We have allowed our moral compass to be dampened in removing God from school . The intent of Separation of Church and State was to prevent the Church and religious leaders from directing the hand of government . And yet another example of SCOTUS injecting words and intent into the Constitution that were never there .

We are not allowed to parent or discipline our children and yet are shocked when they go squirrel crazy and perform these horrendous acts . These individuals thru lack of accountability and lack of discipline have gone feral . Dogs when not held to standards and disciline go feral . Cats , pigs the same . And yet when humans are not held to social norms and standards of conduct and go feral we are shocked .
I'm at a loss as to the fact that until we , yes we push this back to center we are at the mercy of our masters and their agendas .
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The pit bull's chain was severed in the 60's and the boundaries are now defined in post-modern relativism; sowing the wind and reaping the whirlwind. Not only can the fool not get himself into the city (Ecc. 10:15), he, xhe, can't even be sure of which bathroom to use along the way. Insanity. Anything less than turning back to Eternal Truths, morality and reverence for life will be treating symptoms as opposed to underlying disease as well as making the law-abiding even more vulnerable to the unhinged. Yea we had crazies back then, always will, but they were unabashedly recognized as such by peers, parents and police without fear of social ridicule and retribution.
 
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pmclaine said:
50K in overtime would be pennies to the cost of this.

These things cost billions.

But the dollars are nothing compared to lives.
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With all due respect I don't see how assigning a couple of FBI agents to keep an eye on this kid 12 hours a day for a few months to build a case and keep this shooting from happening could possible cost that much. These FBI guys don't make that much money. Just some good ole survellience would have prevented this. Also local law enforcement could have reported or arrested this kid for domestic violence and got that reported to NICS to stop his firearm purchase. I'm sure he could have still figured out a way to get the same weapon, but it's something. He should have been under survellience period. Cost be damned.
 
#56
GTFO with that cost BS. All these agencies have their head up their ass. How much did it cost to prosecute the doctor for the shotgun shell in DC? And then harass him with the IRS?
All the time in the world to fuck with good tax paying citizens. No time to deal with criminals. It's the same from local cops up through fed agencies.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/9/miller-how-government-tyranny-destroyed-a-dc-busin/

Of course now he is a prohibited person. This prohibited person BS for non felons has got to stop.
 
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myronman3 said:
the fbi is worthless. from where i am standing, they're too busy chasing russian bogeymen to do the job they are supposed to be doing. but hey, they were founded by some degenerate asshole like maser who liked to dress in womens panties, so their legacy is pretty queer anyway. and from what has been revealed so far, they are neck deep in participating in an active coupe attempt.

i got $20 that says if i fucked up and did 1 thing (like a domestic abuse call) law enforcement would be so far up my ass they'd be able to tell that i have another wisdom tooth that needs to be pulled.

if i was this fucking inept at my job, i'da been shitcanned 15 years ago. they get no cover or sympathy from me. disband the whole fucking deal and lock up every and all cocksuckers involved in this uranuim one, dossier, and fast and furious shit. they are so neck deep in all this shit, i can't even remember all the scandles anymore. that's corruption on a level that is beyond anything i could ever have imagined. and a bigger threat to america than anything else i can imagine at this point.

they are damn lucky i aint the man. they'd be fuck T-H-R-motherfuckin-U.
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Yep, and here's something I've been thinking about more and more these days. With just about all of the liberal greaseballs still in their positions of power today, what kind of crap have they been doing that we have absolutely no idea about ? And, how much of it continues to this day ? In that context, I cannot fathom why Trump hasn't taken a chainsaw to the FBI and the Department of "Justice" and shitcanned as many of the bad apples as possible. What, like they are now going to behave themselves and promise to never do those bad things again ? Scratchin' my head on that one. :unsure:

edit/add; And, who's this latest FBI or DOJ goon that just announced he's taking a LOA and will come back just in time to retire, with full benefits ? What the hell ? We the taxpayers are going to be supporting that bastard's retirement fund for the rest of his life.
 
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Have you ever read the Constitution, particularly the 4th Amendment? I cant believe how many people here are wishing for an even more out of control surveillance state. wake it the fuk up jack wads, read your Constitution. A scared and pussified population will indeed give up all their freedoms, disgusting, you all ought to be ashamed to vall yiurselves fuking Americans.


https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fourth_amendment



79steeler said:
With all due respect I don't see how assigning a couple of FBI agents to keep an eye on this kid 12 hours a day for a few months to build a case and keep this shooting from happening could possible cost that much. These FBI guys don't make that much money. Just some good ole survellience would have prevented this. Also local law enforcement could have reported or arrested this kid for domestic violence and got that reported to NICS to stop his firearm purchase. I'm sure he could have still figured out a way to get the same weapon, but it's something. He should have been under survellience period. Cost be damned.
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The FBI and other LE get hundreds of prank and fake tips. But public shooting and disturbances should always be taken seriously. I propose that schools should have better security to avoid allegal substance and weapon into school premises.
 
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79steeler said:
With all due respect I don't see how assigning a couple of FBI agents to keep an eye on this kid 12 hours a day for a few months to build a case and keep this shooting from happening could possible cost that much. These FBI guys don't make that much money. Just some good ole survellience would have prevented this. Also local law enforcement could have reported or arrested this kid for domestic violence and got that reported to NICS to stop his firearm purchase. I'm sure he could have still figured out a way to get the same weapon, but it's something. He should have been under survellience period. Cost be damned.
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I'm saying that the overtime is peanuts.

The actual aftermath of the shooting will cost beaucoup.

All the OT investigating.

All the trial costs.

They already said they will be tearing the school down and it looks like it was relatively new.

What is the economic impact of those lost and families ruined?

You had my statement backwards.
 
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ArmyJerry said:
Have you ever read the Constitution, particularly the 4th Amendment? I cant believe how many people here are wishing for an even more out of control surveillance state. wake it the fuk up jack wads, read your Constitution. A scared and pussified population will indeed give up all their freedoms, disgusting, you all ought to be ashamed to vall yiurselves fuking Americans.


https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fourth_amendment
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Plenty of probable cause to keep on eye on this kid. I'm not advocating messing with the 4th, plenty of reasons to just watch him, if he is not up to no good then let him be, if he shows up to the school armed with intent to do bodily harm then arrest him. Simply.
 
#69
It seems that he told everyone on three different social media platforms since November that he was going to do this. I wonder if he had been threatening Obama in a similar manner if LE would just have allowed him to go ahead and do it.

Simple fact, our children matter to us not to our government.
 
#70
Aren't the law enforcement entities paid to try to prevent crime as well as investigate after?
Cops/Police/Agents can't be everywhere at once.
When a subject comes knocking this is where the investigation starts.
This perp was knocking with both fists.
Could have been a "not my job "instance" on many levels.
From my understanding the definition of the above mentioned jobs this is contrary.
Better to admit failure and learn something to apply toward future efforts than to play the blame game.

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#71
It is also said that until she died his mother regularly took him for psychiatric counseling. Some judge needs to unseal those records and see if the mental health professional knew he was a danger to others, if so he was obligated to report it.
 
#72
Have you ever read the Constitution, particularly the 4th Amendment? I cant believe how many people here are wishing for an even more out of control surveillance state. wake it the fuk up jack wads, read your Constitution. A scared and pussified population will indeed give up all their freedoms, disgusting, you all ought to be ashamed to vall yiurselves fuking Americans
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You're correct AJ.
A large part of the problem lies in what a judge considers as "reasonable " grounds to grant a search warrant.
 
#73
Bit of an update in regards to the incident that was local to me. Kid made threats on social media, and to his girlfriend/ex-girlfriend, about shooting up the school. The FBI, and Local cops picked him up. I believe now he is in the neighboring counties Juvenile detention center. They did go to his home, and take possession of 47 firearms found in the home.
Quiet a drive for the feds, closest field office is 150 miles from me.
 
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101stinfantry said:
Bit of an update in regards to the incident that was local to me. Kid made threats on social media, and to his girlfriend/ex-girlfriend, about shooting up the school. The FBI, and Local cops picked him up. I believe now he is in the neighboring counties Juvenile detention center. They did go to his home, and take possession of 47 firearms found in the home.
Quiet a drive for the feds, closest field office is 150 miles from me.
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I assume the 47 firearms all belonged to him or did Dad end up losing his stuff too?
 
#75
All this assignment of blame on FBI or local agencies is background noise. No disrespect meant to any previous posters.

Local ISD, in every corner of the county needs to accept reality, and decide to place good guys with guns, to prevent bad guys with guns from shooting our children. Plenty of dads will volunteer, free of charge. Monthly training, and a friendly relationship with local law enforcement. Dads with rifles and pistols, done. I am one of those that would be more than happy to sign up for duty on a weekly basis. It won't bother me at all to put firing pin to primer, two in the chest, one in the head, on anyone attempting to shoot up one of my children's schools.

Medical Examiner, do you want this asshole, or do you want me to take care of the carcass?
 
#78
madppcs said:
All of this leads to the eventual disarmament of civilians. There are people, countries, agencies foreign and domestic that never sleep on the mission of disarming American citizens. Every second is devoted to this.
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If you ask me the 1996 Telecommunications Act (that allowed big media) was intended to allow manipulation of weak minds. Get enough people brainwashed and they will let you lead them to slaughter.

The Founders would have had trouble even imagining a steam engine. So they built the Constitution to allow change. But the courts were packed and corrupted into finding words that were not there. If you want to make laws infringing on things like Gun rights you would have to change the Constitution. The Founders made that hard. It seems the courts have decided to make it easy by interpretation rather than Amendment.
 
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What is interesting to me especially in the liberal media market in which I live is Im hearing what could be considered "hate speech".

One talking head this morning posited that this issue is not a matter of gun control but one of mental health concerns.

Than just now the news reported that the issue could be boys growing up without a father figure.

Somewhat hopeful they are considering systemic reasons this occurs rather than just the tools that are used to commit the crime.
 
#82
I assume legally they were the mothers guns. Dad killed himself 10 years or so ago. Kid is 15, and I figure the guns came from his Dad, and Grandfather, both of whom are no longer on this side of the dirt. I know the kid, seemed like a decent kid despite his Dad, kinda quiet, but polite, no problems I know of in school. I think that one of the biggest problems with these kids, is that they don't have any mechanism to cope with shit when it doesn't go their way. So much entitlement........
 
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