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Finding a wife

For women, love is always conditional. They think that love is a feeling. Love is an action word. It's something that you do not what you feel.

For a woman, love is based on their emotions and it's transactional.

@WTF-2-EDC I am glad that you got "the one." If she continues to stay with you and both of you are happy then you got the unicorn.

For everyone else the unicorn is a myth.

In this video he gets into the statistics of how it's practically impossible to find a traditional wife. It's a little long but enlightening.



I've known women who stood by their man through all sorts of crazy shit and I've known ones who ruined their marriages (and their lives) for complete nonsense reasons. Bottom line is you never know for sure until you get there.
 
I've known women who stood by their man through all sorts of crazy shit and I've known ones who ruined their marriages (and their lives) for complete nonsense reasons. Bottom line is you never know for sure until you get there.
I've said this before:

If you knew there was an 80% chance of getting shot while target practicing at the range, would anyone in their right mind go shooting?

If there was an 80% chance of getting shot while hunting what sane person would go?

If there was an 80% chance of getting hit by another vehicle while driving, what normal thinking person would leave the driveway?

If 80 out of 100 customers at a particular restaurant came down with a life threatening illness at that establishment every week, would anyone with common sense go eat there?

Even if the odds were reduced to 50/50 in the aforementioned examples would anyone with a brain in their head undertake those activities?

You are correct that you never know if you got the right one "until you get there." However, I don't like the odds and also thought that I had the "right one" twice. I will never make that mistake again and advise every young man contemplating matrimony to run away as fast as they can.
 
I guess I got really lucky.

I met my wife fall of 1986. We started dating seriously in April, 1987, and were married a year later.

It has NOT been all sunshine and roses. That can be blamed on both of us at times, but we were both dedicated to making it work.

We celebrated 37 years of marriage last month.

I have said before - If you have the right one, nothing is better than marriage. If you have the wrong one, there may be nothing worse.
 
I'd say, don't do it! Rent a kid is like having nieces and nephews, you don't have to keep them and returns are easy! Girlfriends are the same way and way less headache to get rid of! I'm speaking of 30 years of experience! Time away such as work, hunting and range time are valuable! I have 6 kids (5 boys & 1 girl) with age range from 16 to 26. Life is good when it is and sucks when it isn't.

Best of luck and make sure the in-laws are in a different state! I was fortunate to have wonderful in-laws, but my wife got stuck with my mother and I wouldn't wish that on anyone!
 
For women, love is always conditional. They think that love is a feeling. Love is an action word. It's something that you do not what you feel.

For a woman, love is based on their emotions and it's transactional.

@WTF-2-EDC I am glad that you got "the one." If she continues to stay with you and both of you are happy then you got the unicorn.

For everyone else the unicorn is a myth.

In this video he gets into the statistics of how it's practically impossible to find a traditional wife. It's a little long but enlightening.



I don't have over an hour to watch your video, but "impossible" is silly.

Difficult? Sure.

A good wife has always been rare.

"An excellent wife, who can find her?
For her worth is far above jewels.
The heart of her husband trusts in her,
And he will have no lack of gain.
She does him good and not evil
All the days of her life."

Proverbs 31:10-12. He is asking "who can find her?" "Her worth is far above jewels" because, like rubies and diamonds, she is rare. This is not 2025. This is almost 3,000 years ago, and he is saying, a good wife is a rare thing and hard to find. Note that the word "husband" here is ba'al, which means literally, "lord" or "master," just as the Hebrew word for marriage is the same word as a verb, meaning ownership or possession, as in a master owns his property. The New Testament mentions this in 1 Peter 3, when it says Sarah obeyed Abraham and called him Lord and that this is an example for all women, thousands of years later when Peter is writing.

But it has never been impossible to find such a wife. It is not impossible today, in 2025.

I have not watched the video, but I have a woman who is hot, a decade younger, and fits the "trad wife" model. Period. And we have a long term marriage. She is home schooling my kids right now while I am working. She was up early making breakfast for the family, eggs, pancakes, oatmeal, and milk or coffee.

"And she rises while it is still night
And gives food to her household,"

Proverbs 31:15

27 She looks well to the ways of her household
and does not eat the bread of idleness.
28 Her children rise up and call her blessed;
her husband also, and he praises her:
29 “Many women have done excellently,
but you surpass them all.”

Proverbs 31:27-29

She is also religious and follows the Bible's teaching on women and men, particularly within a marriage. Ephesians 5:22-33, 1 Peter 3:1-7, etc. (as an aside, if you have not read these two passages, especially, sit down and read them, slowly, line by line, and think about each word, what is it saying?). Most churches today disregard this stuff. Not only are the male teachers scared to teach them, but many churches have women teaching in mixed groups with men contrary to the Bible's clear proscription on this practice - it is not so hard to figure out what a church like that is going to teach. Find out what a woman believes about these passages, and you will know what sort of wife and mother she will be prior to marriage.
 
Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands.

Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish. In the same way husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ does the church, because we are members of his body. “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” This mystery is profound, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church. However, let each one of you love his wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.
 
Likewise, wives, be subject to your own husbands, so that even if some do not obey the word, they may be won without a word by the conduct of their wives, when they see your respectful and pure conduct. Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear— but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious. For this is how the holy women who hoped in God used to adorn themselves, by submitting to their own husbands, as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord. And you are her children, if you do good and do not fear anything that is frightening.

Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered.
 
I don't have over an hour to watch your video, but "impossible" is silly.

Difficult? Sure.

A good wife has always been rare.

"An excellent wife, who can find her?
For her worth is far above jewels.
The heart of her husband trusts in her,
And he will have no lack of gain.
She does him good and not evil
All the days of her life."

Proverbs 31:10-12. He is asking "who can find her?" "Her worth is far above jewels" because, like rubies and diamonds, she is rare. This is not 2025. This is almost 3,000 years ago, and he is saying, a good wife is a rare thing and hard to find. Note that the word "husband" here is ba'al, which means literally, "lord" or "master," just as the Hebrew word for marriage is the same word as a verb, meaning ownership or possession, as in a master owns his property. The New Testament mentions this in 1 Peter 3, when it says Sarah obeyed Abraham and called him Lord and that this is an example for all women, thousands of years later when Peter is writing.

But it has never been impossible to find such a wife. It is not impossible today, in 2025.

I have not watched the video, but I have a woman who is hot, a decade younger, and fits the "trad wife" model. Period. And we have a long term marriage. She is home schooling my kids right now while I am working. She was up early making breakfast for the family, eggs, pancakes, oatmeal, and milk or coffee.

"And she rises while it is still night
And gives food to her household,"

Proverbs 31:15

27 She looks well to the ways of her household
and does not eat the bread of idleness.
28 Her children rise up and call her blessed;
her husband also, and he praises her:
29 “Many women have done excellently,
but you surpass them all.”

Proverbs 31:27-29

She is also religious and follows the Bible's teaching on women and men, particularly within a marriage. Ephesians 5:22-33, 1 Peter 3:1-7, etc. (as an aside, if you have not read these two passages, especially, sit down and read them, slowly, line by line, and think about each word, what is it saying?). Most churches today disregard this stuff. Not only are the male teachers scared to teach them, but many churches have women teaching in mixed groups with men contrary to the Bible's clear proscription on this practice - it is not so hard to figure out what a church like that is going to teach. Find out what a woman believes about these passages, and you will know what sort of wife and mother she will be prior to marriage.
If you have a lack of time, like I do, just listen to the video while you do something else. Sometimes, I will click on the settings icon and speed it up. I've got use to listening to the videos at 1.5 - 2X speed.

I don't disagree with most of what you say about a biblical view of marriage. I'm a God-fearing man and believe in marriage the way God designed it.

However, 99% of modern western women have other ideas. The legislatures and courts also back them up.

Young men aren't getting married anymore. It's not because all women will ruin their lives. It's because all women CAN ruin their lives.

A "trad wife" today can be the raging feminist bitch in the future. I'm glad you have a great wife. Hopefully both of you will continue to have a healthy and happy marriage. I wish nothing else for you.

On the other hand, you are delusional if you think that she can't change. Your wonderful bride has the ability to spit lies about you in divorce court or trump up the most outrageous charges against you with you being led away in handcuffs.

If you get time, please listen to the video before you take issue with it.
 
I don't disagree with most of what you say about a biblical view of marriage. I'm a God-fearing man and believe in marriage the way God designed it.

However, 99% of modern western women have other ideas.

Don't marry those 99% of women.

More importantly, don't even date them. Don't sleep with them.

Frankly, it is men's fault that the 99% of women are that way. Men today are weak and willing to sleep with the nastiest, fattest, loudest, bossiest women. Men are quite willing to put up with almost anything if it means sex. Basically, men reward such behavior. What do you expect to result from that?

Pathetic.
 
Don't marry those 99% of women.

More importantly, don't even date them. Don't sleep with them.

Frankly, it is men's fault that the 99% of women are that way. Men today are weak and willing to sleep with the nastiest, fattest, loudest, bossiest women. Men are quite willing to put up with almost anything if it means sex. Basically, men reward such behavior. What do you expect to result from that?

Pathetic.
That's true to a point. It's only a small percentage of the men that are having bedroom fun with the women. The tall, dark, handsome, rich and successful men are a small percentage of men that are getting most of the sex from the women.

99% of the women have unrealistic expectations for the average man. So the average man, simply gives up and that gave birth to the MGTOW movement.

Those women with the unrealistic expectations will drop those same expectations when Chad Chaddington or Tyrone Thunderstroke pays any attention to them.

Chad and Tyrone will have their bedroom fun with the women then find another one. Then the women complain, "where are the good men and why won't they commit?"

The good men are there but they are invisible to 99% of the women because they don't meet their ridiculously high standards. Then when the women have had their fun and start pushing 30 they decide to settle for the bald accountant making six figures a year instead of the pool boy. Chad and Tyrone aren't looking for the 30 year old woman who's beginning to show some age. So the women who were smoking hot 10-15 years ago have to "settle for the next best thing."

There is no love in that choice but simple economics.

The women who display the porn on onlyfans wouldn't do it unless men were willing to pay. The strip clubs and the women who perform in them make money only because men are willing to pay. So you are correct, if men would not support that behavior, it wouldn't be on display.

So the bottom line is that marriage is a trap and a losing game for men in the modern world. Repeal the 19th amendment and things might begin to change.
 
but many churches have women teaching in mixed groups with men contrary to the Bible's clear proscription on this practice

Just as a point, I think some folks like you might have mixed up personal preferences and personal opinions that Saul/Paul said based on his hang-ups from being a Jewish lawyer and bigwig in the orthodox type groups.

There is nothing wrong with women teaching a class in Church or speaking in Church.

While the Priesthood is only held by men, women are perfectly able and are encouraged to avail themselves of the Priesthood power and use that to magnify their callings and their work as properly authorized.

Women can easily be teachers or leaders of specific groups, or preach the gospel or give Church talks or classes to anyone regardless of Gender.
 
If it wasn't for my wife doing Bible lessons with me when we were dating...I'd still be firmly lost, thinking that I was found. At that time, I had drifted far away and didn't know better because I didn't read my Bible. She did, and poked holes with scriptural reference at every point of mine. As a result, I now have my own message that I get the opportunity to share when one falls away for 15 years and then finally comes back.

That doesn't mean that either of us believe in women pastors.

And it proves that good women are still out there. The wrong ones are found in places you shouldn't be looking. As the old joke goes: "Why did the cowboy have shit in his moustache? He was 'Lookin' for Love in All the Wrong Places'". - A Johnny Lee country song for those unaware.
 
Just as a point, I think some folks like you might have mixed up personal preferences and personal opinions that Saul/Paul said based on his hang-ups from being a Jewish lawyer and bigwig in the orthodox type groups.

There is nothing wrong with women teaching a class in Church or speaking in Church.

While the Priesthood is only held by men, women are perfectly able and are encouraged to avail themselves of the Priesthood power and use that to magnify their callings and their work as properly authorized.

Women can easily be teachers or leaders of specific groups, or preach the gospel or give Church talks or classes to anyone regardless of Gender.

Well, that is your man made opinion. I will follow scripture, and you follow your opinion.

"As in all the churches of the saints, the women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church. Or was it from you that the word of God first went out? Or has it come to you only?

If anyone thinks that he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord’s commandment. But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized."

1 Cor. 14:33-38 (emphasis added).

You distort what Paul declares is the "Lord's commandment" into "personal opinions" and "hang ups" merely to justify your manmade practices which are contrary to scripture. Note that Peter informs us that Paul's writing is scripture, too, and that the untaught and unstable "distort" what Paul wrote. 2 Peter 3:15-17.

If it wasn't for my wife doing Bible lessons with me when we were dating...I'd still be firmly lost, thinking that I was found. At that time, I had drifted far away and didn't know better because I didn't read my Bible. She did, and poked holes with scriptural reference at every point of mine. As a result, I now have my own message that I get the opportunity to share when one falls away for 15 years and then finally comes back.

That doesn't mean that either of us believe in women pastors.

And it proves that good women are still out there. The wrong ones are found in places you shouldn't be looking. As the old joke goes: "Why did the cowboy have shit in his moustache? He was 'Lookin' for Love in All the Wrong Places'". - A Johnny Lee country song for those unaware.
Your wife doing Bible lessons with you privately is not speaking in "the churches," which is a Greek word for "gatherings." There is nothing at all wrong with a woman teaching somebody privately, and I cannot think of anything in scripture that would prohibit it, although I note that when Priscilla went to correct Apollos, privately and discretely, in Acts 18:24-26, she had her husband with her. A woman should also be careful in teaching even privately, to keep herself in line with the attitude reflected in 1 Timothy 2:12, not exerting authority over the man as the teacher.
 
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Don't marry those 99% of women.

More importantly, don't even date them. Don't sleep with them.

Frankly, it is men's fault that the 99% of women are that way. Men today are weak and willing to sleep with the nastiest, fattest, loudest, bossiest women. Men are quite willing to put up with almost anything if it means sex. Basically, men reward such behavior. What do you expect to result from that?

Pathetic.
So true! In my younger days I was that guy.....not the fat ugly ones, but plenty that didn't appeal to me. Now that I'm older, all women look gross to me. Not interested it the current herd at all!

The roles of women and men have reversed over the last 100 years, it is up to men to fix this, but I was young once and if someone told me to stay away from those type of women, I wouldn't have listened. I think mother nature will fix or the invent of the AI sex dolls will. Eventually, only the pure women with good morals will hold value. Until then, DO NOT marry women....RUN!
 
Does the OP know that wives are 50% off in Ukraine, and Gaza?
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Well, that is your man made opinion. I will follow scripture, and you follow your opinion.

"As in all the churches of the saints, the women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church. Or was it from you that the word of God first went out? Or has it come to you only?

If anyone thinks that he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord’s commandment. But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized."

1 Cor. 14:33-38 (emphasis added).

You distort what Paul declares is the "Lord's commandment" into "personal opinions" and "hang ups" merely to justify your manmade practices which are contrary to scripture. Note that Peter informs us that Paul's writing is scripture, too, and that the untaught and unstable "distort" what Paul wrote. 2 Peter 3:15-17.

If you want to be all hardline thumping about your misguided dogma, at least use a proper old classic translation and not some new fangled one!

First, just for fun and a tangent, let's make it clear from the Bible that Paul openly acknowledged that some of his guidelines were of his own opinion not specific commands of God.

1 Corinthians 7:6 "But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment."
1 Corinthians 7:12 "But to the rest speak I, not the Lord:"
1 Corinthians 7:25 "I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful."
2 Corinthians 11:17 Indicates he also talks sometimes about things of his own will.

Now that I've left that for you to stew on and explain around, let's get back to the main thing:

During the Great Apostasy, many doctrines were perverted to let a small few have power and control over others and to subjugate others.
Many times things of Hebrew tradition alone or even Roman / Greek tradition were held up as being what the New Covenant demanded when Jesus Christ said no such thing. Things were reinterpreted and reworded and reimagined to twist the plain and simple truths.

Something also to think about for those who like to think that Women aren't able to carry the messages of God to everyone including men:

Who did Jesus first appear to after his Resurrection?
Who did Jesus command to go find where the disciples were congregated/gathered together and preach/announce/bear witness of His resurrection?
(If she had of "kept silence in the congregation" she would have been directly disobeying the command of Jesus Christ)


Women can make great teachers, great speakers, great witnesses, great evangelists under the properly delegated authority, and if some Man thinks he should be allowed to tell them to shut up because well he happens to have dangly bits between his legs, he is sorely mistaken.

There is a big difference between the women leading the Church (which is not correct) and the Women being active in the Church and having positions and responsibilities delegated to them by the proper Priesthood authority holder.

There is also a big difference between "Officially Presiding" over official Church services and when women are asked to give Talks / Lessons / Lectures / Discussions in Church or Church functions.

For example, I hold the Priesthood which specifically is only held by men, however if I'm in a Church class, lesson, missionary effort, or group meeting that is being taught / run / led by a woman who has been duly appointed to that post, then the woman is the one in charge of that event and commands the same respect as if a male was leading that same event.
 
1 Corinthians 7:6 "But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment."
"But I speak this . . ."

What is "this?"

Could it be, perhaps, something he is mentioning right there in chapter 7, oh, say, around v. 6?

Or is "this" everything you do not like even if it is in a completely different chapter seven chapters later when that statement you do not like is followed immediately by a clear statement "let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord’s commandment."

I swear that folks with do mental gymnastics to avoid very clear things with which they disagree.

Try reading scripture to let it inform you instead of trying to force your viewpoint into the scripture and then distort it beyond recognition when the clear meaning of the text goes against what you want it to say.

Yes, Paul clearly said that he was giving his opinion sometimes. The key here that you are missing, even while quoting him doing it, is that he tells you when he does that. Look at your own examples.

But with respect to women keeping silent in the churches (gatherings), not only did he not tell you, "Hey, attention, this is just my judgment, and not a commandment of the Lord," but, when we got to the part you did not like, he told you the exact opposite, that the things he is writing are the Lord's commandment.

Stop distorting scripture.

All the rest of your post is just your manmade justifications for your manmade opinions. There is no authority in scripture for women having the roles you assign in the church. The book of Acts tells us about the beginning of the church and the history of the church from the first day on the day of Pentecost, its growth in Jerusalem, and then to the Gentiles, up through Paul's arrest and transport to Rome. The New Testament letters mostly from Paul tell us about how to conduct ourselves in the church. Not only is there nothing like these new feminist doctrines you are claiming in those books, but you are utterly dismissive of the commands, instructions, and examples that say otherwise. That is not a good way to discern God's counsel on this subject.
 
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if some Man thinks he should be allowed to tell them to shut up because well he happens to have dangly bits between his legs, he is sorely mistaken.

This sort of mocking attitude toward a scriptural instruction speaks volumes.

If that was the reason, then maybe he would be mistaken.

Your argument is a straw man fallacy. I do not presume to do any such thing, and certainly not because of genitalia or whatever nonsense reason you ascribe. I am, however, going to read the Bible and follow the Lord's will with respect to how he says we are to conduct ourselves within his church, purchased with his blood. You continue to do your own self willed practices and blatantly violate what he preserved through his providence for your learning for thousands of years.
 
Christian content on the Hide tends to vanish quickly, boys. Careful. We might get banned :sneaky:

Women do NOT belong in pastoral positions. Period. They can teach sunday school for kids and help organize all those wonderful church community things. But, the second a women steps up to give a sermon....I'm out. And so should you.
 
This sort of mocking attitude toward a scriptural instruction speaks volumes.

If that was the reason, then maybe he would be mistaken.

Your argument is a straw man fallacy. I do not presume to do any such thing, and certainly not because of genitalia or whatever nonsense reason you ascribe. I am, however, going to read the Bible and follow the Lord's will with respect to how he says we are to conduct ourselves within his church, purchased with his blood. You continue to do your own self willed practices and blatantly violate what he preserved through his providence for your learning for thousands of years.

So what about the Female prophets and judges that appear in the Old Testament?

They did not hold the Priesthood and were not named as major prophets, nonetheless they were recorded as prophets and judges.
And hey that was back when the Hebrews really were all old school about being male dominated.

That alone is pretty good evidence against "tell all the women to be quiet".
 
But, the second a women steps up to give a sermon....I'm out. And so should you.

Then you might miss some truly insightful and inspiring lessons and experiences.
Refusing to hear something because a Woman is the one saying it is pretty narrow minded.
It is much the same as how "good Christians" in this country, used to refuse to listen to or talk with or associate in their churches with people of African descent.

For our Sacrament Services, the Bishopric selects people to give talks during the service after the Sacrament is administered by men holding the Priesthood. The ones giving the talks might be men, women, or children, often both men and women, sometimes all women, sometimes all men.
They are not the ones presiding over the service, but they are duly appointed to give talks and share messages.

In our Church Gospel Doctrine Classes, the teachers are often women of great faith and knowledge with experience in preaching the gospel and teaching. They are also assigned by the leadership and every bit as respected as if a man was doing so. (Such as in my congregation).

The missionaries from our Church that are ordained and set apart to go preach the gospel are both men and women and both perform their duties the same, with the exception of if something can only be done by a Priesthood holder. In fact I think often the women do perhaps even a better job than the men when it comes to preaching the Gospel.

Women in positions of leadership over various functions of the Church often give important talks during worldwide Church events as assigned by those in authority.

Anyone going around making a scene walking out because a woman was speaking would very shortly be invited to become a member of a different Church, just the same as if someone was walking out because of someone's ethnicity.

Our Church General Conference is coming up soon, and there will be talks from various Church leaders being broadcast to all the members around the world and anyone in the world that will want to listen. You should consider listening in and watching some of the talks and teachings given by some of the women in the Church, you might find it changes your mind on if women can talk and teach others.

While our Church is led by Priesthood holders (who can only be Men), Women are active participants under proper calling and authority in many aspects of Church teaching and Church services and Church functions.
 
Sigh.

Yeah, we must be racists, too, if we follow what the Bible has to say on women in churches.

Come on, give it a rest if such ad hominem and other logical fallacies are how you argue.

You are not arguing from scripture. You post is just one long essay in manmade reasoning against the scriptures.
 
So what about the Female prophets and judges that appear in the Old Testament?

They did not hold the Priesthood and were not named as major prophets, nonetheless they were recorded as prophets and judges.
And hey that was back when the Hebrews really were all old school about being male dominated.

That alone is pretty good evidence against "tell all the women to be quiet".
Which of them were in the churches to which Paul was writing?

The Old Testament does not function as an authoritative guide on New Testament worship in Christ's church. Animal sacrifices, burning incest, blah, blah, blah . . . this is a very elementary concept that your women teachers must be overlooking.

But I will bite. Since you do not name one, I will name the first one who comes to mind. Deborah. She was indeed a judge. See Judges 4. Note that to be judged, folks came to her, out in the hill country, where she was by a certain palm tree. She did not hold court in the city gate. Judges 4:5. Judges 4:4 says she was a prophetess. Note, however, there is no evidence of public preaching. Period. That is it. You long to find a prophetess preaching publicly, like male prophets, and yet you find none. So, even if the Old Testament was for regulating worship in the Lord's church (which it is not), you fail to find your example of a prophetess preaching to multitudes.

The children of Israel came to her out in the hill country. She summoned Barak to her to give God's word privately. Judges 4:6. She judged as "a mother." Judges 5:7. That she was a judge at all indicates the cowardice and weakness of the men at this point in time in Israel. Read Deborah's song in Chapter 5, which laments this weakness. God is not saying any of this is a good thing. It was a moral failing by the men of Israel being taught by God in this manner.

Even after she told Barak that the Lord had given the enemy into his hand, note his weak and cowardly reaction. Judges 4:8. In the very next verse, she tells him that he will be shamed by Sisera being delivered into the hands of a woman.

There are huge lessons here even in the examples you raise that you just do not seem to grasp. Maybe your women teachers avoid these subjects and just tell you, superficially, "Deborah was a woman judge and a prophetess," and you see that it is so, as v. 4 calls her a prophetess, and your study of Deborah is all done?
 
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And yet 1 Corinthians 14:34-37 is still there telling you exactly what the Lord wants in his church.

Deborah was a prophetess.

and

1 Corinthians 14:34-37 is "the Lord's commandment."

I see both of them.

You pick and choose what you want and distort the scriptures.
 
Hey, God had Hosea marry a prostitute and take her back after she cheated, so we should all seek out prostitutes for marriage have them cheat on us and keep them as wives?

God did things though prophets to teach broader lessons needed by his people at that time.
 
@Malum Prohibitum
So since you are really firm on what Paul said as being what must be done and not any exceptions.

Let's go to another one of Paul's teachings and see if you and I both agree on it.

1 Timothy 3

Paul clearly lays out that to be a Bishop or a Deacon (and one could interpret those to mean just as easily a pastor), that it must be a man who is married to a woman.

So by strict reading as per your standards, it would see to be that someone could not be a Bishop or Pastor (or perhaps even teacher depending on how you interpret deacon) unless they are married.

Yet a great many denominations allow unmarried men to be Bishops, Pastors, Deacons, Teachers and such.

So what say you?

"1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.

2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;

5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;

9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.

10 And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless.

11 Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.

12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well."


Now as a hint to my stance, the office of Bishop and most other higher offices in our Church require that the man is married except in specific authorized cases.
 
51 years, same woman. It can be done. We still hold hands, we still present a united front. She hunts, shoots, cooks, bakes, and has a ham license.
We’ve been through it all.
Absolutely gorgeous in her youth, and downright sturdy in her maturity. Wouldn’t trade her for two half her age.
I’m the luckiest man I ever met.
 
I have given this some further consideration. Whoever stated that you should be willing to love wholly and expect the same, willing to work towards a common goal and the relationship should be paramount. If you truly love each other, there is very little that cannot be worked thru or forgiven.

Very few people these days can see beyond the circle they think revolves around them.

I had that with my second wife, I hit the trifecta, she was smart, attractive and a hard worker. Whether it was at home or at work, she put 110% in, she was also 23yrs younger than me.

Her work ethic could be frustrating at times because she was very analytical, she would research projects at nauseum until I finally just gave up, she would research every angle and then come to a conclusion and a set of guidelines to accomplish it.

The one time it didn't work, she had decided how best to build a weather and wind break in the pasture, I ordered one of those carports from a local dealer and had it installed and the north side tinned while she was in New York for work. Me and her son watched the festivities from the porch swing while drinking tea. She later agreed my idea was probably best and easier on my blood pressure.

She passed away two years ago this past January and I don't know there is another out there that would give me the same satisfaction and happiness all while making me want to strangle her at times(sure it was mutual)🤣.
 
This is also what you can look forward to when married to a modern woman. The ex-wife mixed her happy pills with the rocket fuel. The results were predictable and frightening.

Take note about what she says when visiting your girlfriends home. Look in the medicine cabinet. If you see the anti-depressants or herpes medication - RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!

 
More on antidepressants and women:

This article was written last year. The statistics show an alarming increase of SSRIs and teen girls. It's these same girls that will grow up to be adult women. The latest data that the writer cites is three years old. Remember what we have witnessed for the last several years whenever women take to the streets to protest.

 
Pearl hits it right on the head. 99.99% of young women out there today, ranging from 20 to 30 years of age, aren't worth the powder it would take to blow them up. At least as far as being anything worth getting married to.

And it's not a simple matter of overconfidence either. That can be somewhat overlooked. But they've got themselves so bullshitted as to their actual value, they're living in a fantasy. When it becomes obvious to them their pussies and tits aren't enough to get them through a marriage, let alone a successful life, they switch to happy pills of some type.

Then they become divorced, and an even bigger trainwreck. With enough physical and mental baggage to buckle the frame of a boxcar. I'm in my early 70's, and I've seen this developing over the last several decades. Back in the early 80's, it wasn't too bad, or too hard finding someone halfway decent... At least to find someone to date, and or hang around with, and enjoy life in general.

Now it's a fucking nightmare for these young guys. Who themselves alone bring so much to the table. All these overrated cunts do today is whine and want. And it seems the better looking they are, the worse they get. No wonder marriage between 20 and 30 year olds is down 63% today, over what it was in the 70's.