Flight attendant gets two teeth knocked out.

#101
ken226 said:
According to the internet, San Diego PD charged her with felony battery.

If charged in state court, the penalty for felony battery in CA is up to 3 years in state prison.



In Federal court,

"49 U.S. Code § 46504. Interference with flight crew members and attendants

An individual on an aircraft in the special aircraft jurisdiction of the United States who, by assaulting or intimidating a flight crew member or flight attendant of the aircraft, interferes with the performance of the duties of the member or attendant or lessens the ability of the member or attendant to perform those duties, or attempts or conspires to do such an act, shall be fined under title 18, imprisoned for not more than 20 years, or both. However, if a dangerous weapon is used in assaulting or intimidating the member or attendant, the individual shall be imprisoned for any term of years or for life."

The "special aircraft jurisdiction" noted in the above statute is:

(a) any civil aircraft of the United States;
(b) any aircraft of the United States armed forces;

(c) any other aircraft in the United States;

I guess they added (c) to cover everything they missed in (a) or (b).😆


They probably won't go that route, unless there's some new AUSA looking to establish a reputation, but I'd be reluctant to put myself in that position just for the satisfaction of punching out some asshole.
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Yeah...that might make me wait until we got out into the terminal or baggage claim 🤣 ...she better hope she wasn't totally in the wrong and they make an example out of her. She didn't just push the FA a bit or something...she fricken busted two of her teeth out lol...she can't really say sorry...I didn't mean to hit her LOL 🤣🤣🤣
 
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Anointed1 said:
Yeah...that might make me wait until we got out into the terminal or baggage claim 🤣 ...she better hope she wasn't totally in the wrong and they make an example out of her. She didn't just push the FA a bit or something...she fricken busted two of her teeth out lol...she can't really say sorry...I didn't mean to hit her LOL 🤣🤣🤣
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From what the witnesses say, I say not guilty. If Sky Karen put her hands on the passenger, I say good punch. Nobody likes a range Nazi, even when flying. The stewardess was standing, obviously.
 
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If the FAA/TSA were a competent Federal agency (oxymoron) there would be simple fines, with escalation amounts or penalties, additional fee's to book, up to ban on flying for outrageous passengers. The problem is now they are asking the flight crew to be judge/police and enforcer. This is not a workable plan or viable to have a fatass/fag/karen or whatever power tripping flight crew including the Captain removing people for not wearing a MASK!!!!
This is refutable science that we as sheep have been forced to accept and endure. This is the end result for allowing ourselves to be manipulated into submission and is a test for the next level of aggression by our so called "elected officials". It will not end well mark my words............
 
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Like it or not, the flight attendant has legal power over you. It's just like a cook, you wouldn't talk shit to cook because you don't want them to spit in your food when you're not looking. Why would you talk shit the the flight attendant when you know they can throw you off the plane at any time, including making a special stop just for you, and you can't stop it from happening know matter how right you are and how wrong they are. Don't be stupid regardless of who's right while flying. It's never gonna end well for you. See above.
 
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mewillis said:
If the FAA/TSA were a competent Federal agency (oxymoron) there would be simple fines, with escalation amounts or penalties, additional fee's to book, up to ban on flying for outrageous passengers. The problem is now they are asking the flight crew to be judge/police and enforcer. This is not a workable plan or viable to have a fatass/fag/karen or whatever power tripping flight crew including the Captain removing people for not wearing a MASK!!!!
This is refutable science that we as sheep have been forced to accept and endure. This is the end result for allowing ourselves to be manipulated into submission and is a test for the next level of aggression by our so called "elected officials". It will not end well mark my words............
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If the FAA was legit it wouldn’t be “administrate law” aka kangaroo court

If it can’t stand a jury of ones peers, it’s not legit
 
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Jefe's Dope said:
Like it or not, the flight attendant has legal power over you. It's just like a cook, you wouldn't talk shit to cook because you don't want them to spit in your food when you're not looking. Why would you talk shit the the flight attendant when you know they can throw you off the plane at any time, including making a special stop just for you, and you can't stop it from happening know matter how right you are and how wrong they are. Don't be stupid regardless of who's right while flying. It's never gonna end well for you. See above.
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Good thing a group of colonists a few hundred years ago had a different mindset concerning how to handle confrontation with authorities when the ones with power are wrong.

As far as the flight attendant thing, it will come down to who was the aggressor.
 
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I say if the rules when you bought the ticket was "you consent to wearing a mask" for the duration of the flight, and you pop yer mask off (or wear it half assed like not actually covering yer mouth and nose) half way thru the flight then a FA asks you to please comply with the rules and get yer mask on yer face and if you tell her "fuck you" she returns to her seat and the flight continues. When the aircraft lands Police arrest you and charge you with trespass and criminal endangerment, the airline permanently bans you from ever flying again, the rest of the passengers can sue you for endangerment, you get fined for $X for making an issue of a non issue. When you bought the ticket you agreed to the terms. Break the agreement? Who cares - yer on yer own. Fly yer own plane.

What the fuck is the big deal with a fucking mask? Really? Who cares...been wearing one for months now with no problems but I'm damn glad to be rid of it. My point is: break rules and laws - get fucked. Just like folks who tell cops "fuck off"...they get shot/brutalized. Break the rules- get fucked.

Bought a airline ticket and agreed to wear a mask and then got sanctimonious? Go to jail - get fucked. Sorry - rules and laws apply to all. Not just the folks you hate.

VooDoo
 
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wade2big said:
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Good thing a group of colonists a few hundred years ago had a different mindset concerning how to handle confrontation with authorities when the ones with power are wrong.

As far as the flight attendant thing, it will come down to who was the aggressor.
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This isn't a Constitutional issue. It's a private carrier and the flight attendant has legal power over you. If you don't like that, don't fly their airline. Just like here, you can be thrown out for a variety of offenses. It's also incredibly fucking stupid to taunt the bull. You're there voluntarily, not chained on a slave ship. When the plane lands, get her name and write a complaint to the airlines.

Also, pretty sure it's been determined this had to do with standing up while the plane was in motion and not about wearing a mask. But it makes no difference, the airline can have a mask mandate regardless of what anyone or any .gov about lifting a mask mandate. The "colonist" you regard also valued private property and who can tell you what you can do with your private property including your airline.

So which is it? Your wants on their private property or their rules in regards to their private property?
 
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Vodoun daVinci said:
I say if the rules when you bought the ticket was "you consent to wearing a mask" for the duration of the flight, and you pop yer mask off (or wear it half assed like not actually covering yer mouth and nose) half way thru the flight then a FA asks you to please comply with the rules and get yer mask on yer face and if you tell her "fuck you" she returns to her seat and the flight continues. When the aircraft lands Police arrest you and charge you with trespass and criminal endangerment, the airline permanently bans you from ever flying again, the rest of the passengers can sue you for endangerment, you get fined for $X for making an issue of a non issue. When you bought the ticket you agreed to the terms. Break the agreement? Who cares - yer on yer own. Fly yer own plane.

What the fuck is the big deal with a fucking mask? Really? Who cares...been wearing one for months now with no problems but I'm damn glad to be rid of it. My point is: break rules and laws - get fucked. Just like folks who tell cops "fuck off"...they get shot/brutalized. Break the rules- get fucked.

Bought a airline ticket and agreed to wear a mask and then got sanctimonious? Go to jail - get fucked. Sorry - rules and laws apply to all. Not just the folks you hate.

VooDoo
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I would expect no different answer from you.
 
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Jefe's Dope said:
This isn't a Constitutional issue. It's a private carrier and the flight attendant has legal power over you. If you don't like that, don't fly their airline. Just like here, you can be thrown out for a variety of offenses. It's also incredibly fucking stupid to taunt the bull. You're there voluntarily, not chained on a slave ship. When the plane lands, get her name and write a complaint to the airlines.

Also, pretty sure it's been determined this had to do with standing up while the plane was in motion and not about wearing a mask. But it makes no difference, the airline can have a mask mandate regardless of what anyone or any .gov about lifting a mask mandate. The "colonist" you regard also valued private property and who can tell you what you can do with your private property including your airline.

So which is it? Your wants on their private property or their rules in regards to their private property?
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What property rights? Businesses were forced to close. Workers forced to stay home. Gatherings were forbidden even for church service. The fucking police forced compliance using threats of a fine, imprisonment or death. All of this due to a lie. A power-grab. A leftist marxist revolution. Even the businesses that require it now are either left wing activists or ignorant people who still believe in our govt and media. Its all based on lies either way. These large international corporations gained enormous power over the people and wealth at our expense. If you were serious about individual rights then you would be as pissed as me.
 
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Jefe's Dope said:
This isn't a Constitutional issue. It's a private carrier and the flight attendant has legal power over you. If you don't like that, don't fly their airline. Just like here, you can be thrown out for a variety of offenses. It's also incredibly fucking stupid to taunt the bull. You're there voluntarily, not chained on a slave ship. When the plane lands, get her name and write a complaint to the airlines.

Also, pretty sure it's been determined this had to do with standing up while the plane was in motion and not about wearing a mask. But it makes no difference, the airline can have a mask mandate regardless of what anyone or any .gov about lifting a mask mandate. The "colonist" you regard also valued private property and who can tell you what you can do with your private property including your airline.

So which is it? Your wants on their private property or their rules in regards to their private property?
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I agree, but these airlines took taxpayer money, so meh
 
#113
the punches were (from witness accounts) not caused by orders to wear anything, but because the passenger didn't want to be touched.
karen said her piece, went away, stewed a bit about not getting respect, went back and attacked the passenger, and got punched.
 
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theLBC said:
the punches were (from witness accounts) not caused by orders to wear anything, but because the passenger didn't want to be touched.
karen said her piece, went away, stewed a bit about not getting respect, went back and attacked the passenger, and got punched.
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Do you have a link to that? Videos can be spliced to be very deceiving.
 
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Choid said:
Do you have a link to that? Videos can be spliced to be very deceiving.
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i only saw that middle aged blonde lady that they talked to right after it happened.
seems it wasn't about masks but tray tables, seat belts and basically not listening to karen the entire flight.
now while the passengers may have agreed to listen to karen when they bought their tickets, karen still made a poor choice to get up and go back there to confront the unruly passenger again, who apparently was wearing her mask and not bothering anyone but karen.
 
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Sniperwannabee said:
the best part is at the end , the flight attendant isnt wearing her mask, but the whole time during & after the fight the other girl had her mask on
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sounds like the girl at the window (not on film) was the one with the mask problem.
fighter chick on the aisle was just in the way and didn't like karen touching her to get to the mask defiant passenger?
 
#120
Looks like white trash lashing out.
I rely on flights for work to remote sites.
No point arguing with the staff, it'll just get the Australian Federal Police involved, and maybe a lifetime ban on that airline.
Really, why fight over that bullshit?
Petty people squabbling over fuck all.
I love all the comments from tough guys reckoning it's okay to smack service staff.
Sure that will be a great story over a few beers.....🙄
People need to be better than that.
 
#125
theLBC said:
the punches were (from witness accounts) not caused by orders to wear anything, but because the passenger didn't want to be touched.
karen said her piece, went away, stewed a bit about not getting respect, went back and attacked the passenger, and got punched.
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#126
Sorry, but the only word that comes to mind when I see that, regarding the punch thrower, is trash. Fat piece of trash in a cut off sweat shirt showing her fat girl tits. It's just embarrassing.
 
#131
Choid said:
Well, that is certainly not how I see the evidence, but you see it differently. Nevertheless, somebody who lets themself out it public like that obviously has other issues.
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The video kinda sucks, I’ll reserve judgement.

But to me it’s like running around the ghettos as a white ginger and yelling “nigger!”, it’s 100% free speech, but don’t be too shocked when you get rag dolled, same with yelling at adults to wear a pointless gov compliance mask.
 
#132
TurboTrout said:
The video kinda sucks, I’ll reserve judgement.

But to me it’s like running around the ghettos as a white ginger and yelling “nigger!”, it’s 100% free speech, but don’t be too shocked when you get rag dolled, same with yelling at adults to wear a pointless gov compliance mask.
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I think it has been established that it was over asking somebody to keep their seatbelt on until the getting to the gate, which is, again, kind of her job, and also what they agreed to by getting on the plane. Whatever the case is with the violence, the ability for a person to be so degraded by allowing their body to be like that is beyond what I can even contemplate. Displaying it for the world is just the icing on the cake.
 
#133
TurboTrout said:
The video kinda sucks, I’ll reserve judgement.

But to me it’s like running around the ghettos as a white ginger and yelling “nigger!”, it’s 100% free speech, but don’t be too shocked when you get rag dolled, same with yelling at adults to wear a pointless gov compliance mask.
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An earlier video had a witness interview saying that the FA provoked the attack and was asked several times (warned) before being hit to keep her hands off. If she had her hands on the passenger, its assault by the FA and self defense by the passenger.

This was one witnesses account. May or not be the story.
 
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wade2big said:
An earlier video had a witness interview saying that the FA provoked the attack and was asked several times (warned) before being hit to keep her hands off. If she had her hands on the passenger, its assault by the FA and self defense by the passenger.
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Pretty sure the law won't back that up. In word or application.
 
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Choid said:
I think it has been established that it was over asking somebody to keep their seatbelt on until the getting to the gate, which is, again, kind of her job, and also what they agreed to by getting on the plane. Whatever the case is with the violence, the ability for a person to be so degraded by allowing their body to be like that is beyond what I can even contemplate. Displaying it for the world is just the icing on the cake.
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This is not what the woman that took the video said happened.
 
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Choid said:
I think it has been established that it was over asking somebody to keep their seatbelt on until the getting to the gate, which is, again, kind of her job, and also what they agreed to by getting on the plane. Whatever the case is with the violence, the ability for a person to be so degraded by allowing their body to be like that is beyond what I can even contemplate. Displaying it for the world is just the icing on the cake.
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Ahh

Well if that was honestly the case, guess it depends who went hands on first.
 
#137
Choid said:
Pretty sure the law won't back that up. In word or application.
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Covid is said for over a year to be a death sentence. They are masking afterall supposedly for protection. The flight attendant was arguing with a different woman about her mask not being over her nose. The lady that eventually kicked her ass told her over and over again to quite touching me and to get off of her while the flight attendant violated her personal space while she was yelling at the other lady possibly spreading covid as she was doing it. Everyone has covid which is why masks are worn. “To protect others”. We have to assume the FA is infected and contagious. If you get in someone’s safe space with a deadly disease then you deserve to get hit. Clear enough for you.

case dismissed
 
#138
The flight attendants union is asking for more federal air marshals on flights due to this.

What we will end up with is some version of armed TSA screeners riding around on flights with us, and some new rules to follow, all because a few fucking idiots can't behave like adults.

Can't have nice things.
 
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ken226 said:
The flight attendants union is asking for more federal air marshals on flights due to this.

What we will end up with is some version of armed TSA screeners riding around on flights with us, and some new rules to follow, all because a few fucking idiots can't behave like adults.

Can't have nice things.
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Thats not the cause. It’s the excuse. Big difference.
 
#140
ken226 said:
The flight attendants union is asking for more federal air marshals on flights due to this.

What we will end up with is some version of armed TSA screeners riding around on flights with us, and some new rules to follow, all because a few fucking idiots can't behave like adults.

Can't have nice things.
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Lol, because the union is a whiny bitch and muh gov cheese!!
 
#142
wade2big said:
Covid is said for over a year to be a death sentence. They are masking afterall supposedly for protection. The flight attendant was arguing with a different woman about her mask not being over her nose. The lady that eventually kicked her ass told her over and over again to quite touching me and to get off of her while the flight attendant violated her personal space while she was yelling at the other lady possibly spreading covid as she was doing it. Everyone has covid which is why masks are worn. “To protect others”. We have to assume the FA is infected and contagious. If you get in someone’s safe space with a deadly disease then you deserve to get hit. Clear enough for you.

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Well in your court perhaps, but her actions seem to violate most self defense doctrines like imminent threat, reasonable threat and proportional response. I would not want to go into a trial with her odds, covid world or not. Of course there are a slew of air travel specific laws of which she is in clear violation.
 
#143
Choid said:
Well in your court perhaps, but her actions seem to violate most self defense doctrines like imminent threat, reasonable threat and proportional response. I would not want to go into a trial with her odds, covid world or not.
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The flight attendant has a deadly virus that kills everybody in it’s path. If the FA wasn’t assumed to have it then she wouldn’t wear a mask. The flight attendant should be charged with attempted murder now that I think about it.

This had nothing to do with a seat belt like you said at least not according to the the lady that took the video being shown. She herself sAid the FA provoked the attack.
 
#144
wade2big said:
The flight attendant has a deadly virus that kills everybody in it’s path. If the FA wasn’t assumed to have it then she wouldn’t wear a mask. The flight attendant should be charged with attempted murder now that I think about it.

This had nothing to do with a seat belt like you said at least not according to the the lady that took the video being shown. She herself sAid the FA provoked the attack.
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The nice thing with disagreements like this is that we can easily know the outcome in a matter of months. We don't need to speculate.
 
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Choid said:
The nice thing with disagreements like this is that we can easily know the outcome in a matter of months. We don't need to speculate.
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You are correct we will find out maybe. I am just basing my opinion on how a person who has been brainwashed for over a year to believe covid is such a threat that small business had to be crushed and people arrested for having church in the parking lot, would reasonable act when a covid positive person invades their personal space and won’t retreat when asked over and over again. Its fight or flight in such a life or death scenario. She was pinned in her seat. She had no choice but to fight out of this deadly encounter. Case dismissed.
 
#146
wade2big said:
You are correct we will find out maybe. I am just basing my opinion on how a person who has been brainwashed for over a year to believe covid is such a threat that small business had to be crushed and people arrested for having church in the parking lot, would reasonable act when a covid positive person invades their personal space and won’t retreat when asked over and over again. Its fight or flight in such a life or death scenario. She was pinned in her seat. She had no choice but to fight out of this deadly encounter. Case dismissed.
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From an academic point of view it is actually an interesting defense. Seriously. Maybe that Rittenhouse kid should employ it too.
 
#147
Sky Nazi's

I was on a flight delayed in the air for about four hours flying in circles because of storms.

I got off the plane and walked over to the smoking section of the terminal and lit up.

A sky Nazi' from the flight started bitching at me and told me to put it out. I told her to kiss my ass your no longer in charge.

She actually went and got security. I was standing under the smoking section sign.

Security told her they would handle it, and she stomped off head spinning.

The security gaurd was the one that coined the phrase Sky Nazi.

That was DFW airport many years ago and the bitches have gotten worse.

I finished my smoke I had waited on for more than 6 hours.
 
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