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Food riots thread…and energy.
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A quick glimpse into the near future.
https://www.americanpartisan.org/20...ill-cripple-the-u-s-economy-by-brandon-smith/
Not much time left to turn the boat or put a life vest on.
https://www.americanpartisan.org/20...ill-cripple-the-u-s-economy-by-brandon-smith/
Not much time left to turn the boat or put a life vest on.
how much 'energy' is it going to take to make pure hydrogen. The amount of electricity, to separate the H2 from the O, to burn the H doesn't make sense. I'd like to know how much it costs to convert H20 to H. How much electricity H can generate. My gut says the math doesn't make sense let alone cents.
The papers conveniently leave this math out. If you had a nuclear plant, that ran at full power. The plant could use the excess electricity to make H, that might make sense. Still would have to break down costs to see if feasible.
edit - found this (doesn't look cheap)
The papers conveniently leave this math out. If you had a nuclear plant, that ran at full power. The plant could use the excess electricity to make H, that might make sense. Still would have to break down costs to see if feasible.
edit - found this (doesn't look cheap)
--which shows that hydrogen can be produced via PEM electrolysis at a cost of ~$4 to $6/kg for specific conditions link
-- for a utilization of 40–50% and average electricity prices of 40–50 €/MWhel, electricity costs account for more than 50% of hydrogen costs.link
So a country that doesn't have enough electricity for its consumers, is going to use electricity to produce hydrogen? Fk'n common core math right there
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Interesting scenario. Perhaps more psychological than economical... But, America will simply have to deal with it. After "We the People" admit to the fact that America needs to pump, refine and consume petroleum products..... Life will be better. Let the rest of the World fight their own battles.
We had a family friend who worked at NASA back in the 60's and 70's.. On the Saturn V and others.
I remember him explaining how easy it would be to run Public Transportation off of nuclear and how we could build such a great society. All public transportation could be free.
He also said the powers at be would never let that happen.
I remember him explaining how easy it would be to run Public Transportation off of nuclear and how we could build such a great society. All public transportation could be free.
He also said the powers at be would never let that happen.
More goodness incoming. https://www.zerohedge.com/commoditi...-gasoline-export-ban-blasts-opec-hostile-acts
Kinda goes along the lines of the above.
Kinda goes along the lines of the above.
Way too many "Knee Jerk" reactions. Could be part of the plan to have things so confusing until no one knows what's happening until the roof caves in.
https://www.americanpartisan.org/2022/10/more-dutch-farmer-protests-inbound/
Now why would the government want or need all this farmland?
Now why would the government want or need all this farmland?
im a big proponent of nuc, been looking at it/researching a bit for years
problem with nuc is the total cost of build out plus energy generation is more than the build out and total cost for the same amount of electricity from regular "fuel". so when looking short term its cheaper to stay away
personally the cost doesnt matter as the security and production our own energy outweighs it 10X
never mind, when using less fossil fuels the market price will drop as demand is lower, so gas and heating fuel will drop in cost
problem with nuc is the total cost of build out plus energy generation is more than the build out and total cost for the same amount of electricity from regular "fuel". so when looking short term its cheaper to stay away
personally the cost doesnt matter as the security and production our own energy outweighs it 10X
never mind, when using less fossil fuels the market price will drop as demand is lower, so gas and heating fuel will drop in cost
That's because of the CRAZY democrat EPA regulations. Due to Gov regulations (intentional); the gov (dems) have made the cost to build a plant unfeasible (intentional).
china on the other hand, has taken our design and built 5 already and going to build 15 more.
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And don't forget to thank Jimmy Carter for making reprocessing spent nuclear fuel illegal. no need to worry; China is reprocessing their fuel and currently are the world leaders in this area (thanks to our tech).
china on the other hand, has taken our design and built 5 already and going to build 15 more.
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And don't forget to thank Jimmy Carter for making reprocessing spent nuclear fuel illegal. no need to worry; China is reprocessing their fuel and currently are the world leaders in this area (thanks to our tech).
agreed
but i dont think anyone should use china as the gold standard for the EPA considerations/cost formulas...theyll have a melt down and not tell anyone while civilians glow in the dark etc
there are 5-6 countries that are studying and or building fast reactors that reuse the spent fuel, apparently original reactor tech only uses 5-10% of the energy in uranium. i believe india is actually constructing several nuc reactors on the same footprint as a fast reactor so the waste is stored and used on the same patch of land
we figured it out in the 50-60's and had a test bed running for 50 years but we have done nothing with it...most likely because of lobbyists etc
but i dont think anyone should use china as the gold standard for the EPA considerations/cost formulas...theyll have a melt down and not tell anyone while civilians glow in the dark etc
there are 5-6 countries that are studying and or building fast reactors that reuse the spent fuel, apparently original reactor tech only uses 5-10% of the energy in uranium. i believe india is actually constructing several nuc reactors on the same footprint as a fast reactor so the waste is stored and used on the same patch of land
we figured it out in the 50-60's and had a test bed running for 50 years but we have done nothing with it...most likely because of lobbyists etc
I used to bitch at my wife always buying coffee and not making it at home. First, you can have a better quality of coffee for less and second she always put it on the credit card only for me to find out later. If you know how credit cards work after 20 days you start paying interest, so I was paying interest on the coffee I didn't know about.
People would be amazed at how much money they’d have if they quit spending it.
I’ve done a ton of budgets for people over the years, and it’s not unusual to see 1/3 of their monthly income going to coffee, fast food, gas station food etc.
People are literally financially retarded. I see them cutting necessities before they start cutting wants. Blows my mind.
I’ve done a ton of budgets for people over the years, and it’s not unusual to see 1/3 of their monthly income going to coffee, fast food, gas station food etc.
People are literally financially retarded. I see them cutting necessities before they start cutting wants. Blows my mind.
i think that is the one true failure of the schools systems.
we can argue about what books, common core, trade schools etc
but we do not start teaching children at a young age about budgets and consequences
its touched on via proxy math class, but i believe that is a true failure
we can argue about what books, common core, trade schools etc
but we do not start teaching children at a young age about budgets and consequences
its touched on via proxy math class, but i believe that is a true failure
It's amazing how people receive all their nutrition through what I call from window to window.
The drive-through window to their car window.
The drive-through window to their car window.
Math didn’t teach budgeting when I was in school. Budgeting came from Home economics (and pussy), and business classes.
Plus my mom was a CPA, so that helped lol. Damn, I’m showing my privilege.
It’s not just on the schools though. Parents should be teaching about simple money matters like…umm…you shouldn’t spend more than you bring in. Saving, balancing the books, investments, etc.
If the parents are ignorant on that stuff, every city I’ve ever lived in has offered free classes on it.
Financial illiteracy is one of the building blocks for making a wage slave.
Plus my mom was a CPA, so that helped lol. Damn, I’m showing my privilege.
It’s not just on the schools though. Parents should be teaching about simple money matters like…umm…you shouldn’t spend more than you bring in. Saving, balancing the books, investments, etc.
If the parents are ignorant on that stuff, every city I’ve ever lived in has offered free classes on it.
Financial illiteracy is one of the building blocks for making a wage slave.
That comes from the home. I teach my kids to save, especially now with the looming recession coming. I don't see use coming out of that until 2025, it's going to be hard for some folks.
my sister-in-law doesn't know how to balance her checkbook. She waits until she gets an overdraft warning from her bank, then "borrows" money from her dads account. Usually never pays it back. Her daughter, now grown up.. is basically the same. No concept on money management. We've bailed them out a few times, but I'm not sure that's made much of a difference I don't think they'd learn either way.
Amercian kids will soon experience what their Grand Parents experienced during the Carter years.........
Nothing say's successful, like waiting 4 hours to get fuel. Good fk'n times. is your license plate odd or even?
Yup, they heard the stories.. now, they'll feel the pain...
Nothing say's successful, like waiting 4 hours to get fuel. Good fk'n times. is your license plate odd or even?
Yup, they heard the stories.. now, they'll feel the pain...
I don't think they are have quite the same temperment. I am not sure how the new generation is going to take hardship or a crimp in their lifestyle. We may actually reach a point where the easy, cheap food and entertainment hits a speed bump and they take notice. Should be interesting.
And it is this very weakness in the youth that is being used to usher in socialism. But to be fair, the Greatest Generation accepted the New Deal and everything that came along with open arms. A large part of what we are now living through has its ancestral heritage in the laws enacted at that time, along with LBJ's BS.
1000%
every professor / teacher / politician that cracked the dam open in the 70's was a child of the greatest generation
as they were getting home from work having a martini reading the Saturday evening post, their kids were becoming socialists
every professor / teacher / politician that cracked the dam open in the 70's was a child of the greatest generation
as they were getting home from work having a martini reading the Saturday evening post, their kids were becoming socialists
The big difference between "then and now" is how frustrated people are today. There were a few incidents back in the 80's on the even / odd days. Today there would be open warfare over 5 gallons of gas.
Have you seen the fucking fights on Black Friday at Wal-Mart for that last 32" LCD TV?
Or, when somebody didn't get the cheese on the burger in their happy meal?
Multiple people have been killed at these events.
Waiting in lines trying to get gas in their cars using welfare cards is going to go to a whole new level.
Or, when somebody didn't get the cheese on the burger in their happy meal?
Multiple people have been killed at these events.
Waiting in lines trying to get gas in their cars using welfare cards is going to go to a whole new level.
Food related:
“We’re along for the ride. It’s hard to predict or pretend we could have influences on a stock that is subject to Mother Nature and climate change,” Westphal said. “They need time and space and favorable conditions to rebuild.”
“We’re along for the ride. It’s hard to predict or pretend we could have influences on a stock that is subject to Mother Nature and climate change,” Westphal said. “They need time and space and favorable conditions to rebuild.”
CHICAGO (Reuters) - With planting roughly halfway complete, the 2023 U.S. hard red winter wheat crop is already being hobbled by drought in the heart of the southern Plains, wheat experts said.
Planting plans may be scaled back in the U.S. breadbasket despite historically high prices for this time of year, reflecting rising global demand and thin world wheat supplies projected to end the 2022/23 marketing year at a six-year low. The tight supplies have been exacerbated as the conflict in Ukraine has disrupted grain exports from the Black Sea region.
Planting plans may be scaled back in the U.S. breadbasket despite historically high prices for this time of year, reflecting rising global demand and thin world wheat supplies projected to end the 2022/23 marketing year at a six-year low. The tight supplies have been exacerbated as the conflict in Ukraine has disrupted grain exports from the Black Sea region.
That's got to rank right up there with other cinematic classics like Ilsa the She Wolf of the SS.
So.
Kroeger and Albertsons merging ?
Will become very close to the size of WalMarts grocery chain, which everyone knows is too big.
It's a great big fuck you to consumers.
Between the 2 of them are nearly every grocery store you've ever heard of....Ralphs, Dillons, Vons, Safeway.....etc etc and so on.
Now we are truly fucked, in the ass, dry, no lube, with a swollen infected BBC.
Kroeger and Albertsons merging ?
Will become very close to the size of WalMarts grocery chain, which everyone knows is too big.
It's a great big fuck you to consumers.
Between the 2 of them are nearly every grocery store you've ever heard of....Ralphs, Dillons, Vons, Safeway.....etc etc and so on.
Now we are truly fucked, in the ass, dry, no lube, with a swollen infected BBC.
I'm not sure I can think of a single merger that benefited the customer. Management, stockholders (especially insider trading types), regulators who rubber stamp mergers all benefit, did I miss any?
All the towns destroyed as factories and headquarters were streamlined, right sized, reengineered, Kaizaned and eventually eliminated.
Imagine if all firearms forums were merged into one, to "improve shareholder value", as corporate raiders say. Would it be better for the users? No. It would suck.
Mergers are bad, unless it involves a woman of the fairer sex after a few too many Mai Tais. Then 48 hours of nonstop merging is good
Top 10 Owners of Kroger Co
Stockholder Stake Total value ($)
The Vanguard Group, Inc. 10.92% 3,419,246,600
Berkshire Hathaway, Inc. 7.33% 2,294,131,656
BlackRock Fund Advisors 6.12% 1,915,183,113
What a coinkydink...
Stockholder Stake Total value ($)
The Vanguard Group, Inc. 10.92% 3,419,246,600
Berkshire Hathaway, Inc. 7.33% 2,294,131,656
BlackRock Fund Advisors 6.12% 1,915,183,113
What a coinkydink...
