Suppressors Form 4 wait time

[mooner]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Stainless Sparrow
Check sent: Jan 4 2011
Check cashed: Jan 10 2011
Pending Jan 26 2011
Approved Feb 16 2011
Arrived at Dealer Feb 25 2011
Sparrow picked up Feb 28 2011
ATF examiner Al Lamberger

 

[Short-bus]

Re: Form 4 wait time

SWR Omega 30
Check sent: 2/22/11
Check cashed: 2/28/11

Can't wait to have this wait over with, sucks that I know it could be 3-4 more months (or more) until it's all done.

Branden

 

[jonaddis84]

Re: Form 4 wait time

YHM SS Mite
Trust
Mailed: 11/17/2010
Check cashed: 11/24/2010
Approved: 02/22/2011
In SOT's hands: 02/26/2011

My previous form 4 took exactly the same time to the day, that was back in '09, so much for these going any quicker with more examiners.

 

[cttbax]

Re: Form 4 wait time

My last Suppressor took 59 days from mailed to approved and in my hands... I am using a trust.

 

[KYS]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cttbax</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My last Suppressor took 59 days from mailed to approved and in my hands... I am using a trust. </div></div>

Examiner was who?

 

[msrtex]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mooner</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Stainless Sparrow
Check sent: Jan 4 2011
Check cashed: Jan 10 2011
Pending Jan 26 2011
Approved Feb 16 2011
Arrived at Dealer Feb 25 2011
Sparrow picked Feb 28 2011
ATF examiner Al Lamberger </div></div>

Form 4 or trust?

 

[Cerebus]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Updated...

NFA Items: AAC Cyclone and M4/SPR
Form 4
Transfer Type: Trust
Forms Sent: 01/07/2010
Forms Received: 01/20/2010 (WTF, 13 days from MD to GA)
<span style="color: #3366FF">Check Cashed: 01/24/2011
Pending: 02/11/2011</span>
Approved: TBD
Stamp Received: TBD
<span style="color: #3366FF">Examiner: Sarah Jones</span>

What exactly does "pending" mean? Just that they've started the review process?

 

[KYS]

Re: Form 4 wait time

4 Suppressors
All on a trust

12/19/10 check was cashed
1/05/11 Pending
2/24/11 Approved
03/03/11 Forms in hand, picked up items.

 

[KYS]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cerebus</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Updated...

NFA Items: AAC Cyclone and M4/SPR
Form 4
Transfer Type: Trust
Forms Sent: 01/07/2010
Forms Received: 01/20/2010 (WTF, 13 days from MD to GA)
<span style="color: #3366FF">Check Cashed: 01/24/2011
Pending: 02/11/2011</span>
Approved: TBD
Stamp Received: TBD
<span style="color: #3366FF">Examiner: Sarah Jones</span>

What exactly does "pending" mean? Just that they've started the review process? </div></div>

Pending means it's waiting to be approved....
You still have about 2 months give or take a few days.

 

[mooner]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: msr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mooner</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Stainless Sparrow
Check sent: Jan 4 2011
Check cashed: Jan 10 2011
Pending Jan 26 2011
Approved Feb 16 2011
Arrived at Dealer Feb 25 2011
Sparrow picked Feb 28 2011
ATF examiner Al Lamberger </div></div>

Form 4 or trust? </div></div>

Trust

 

[Zevdogs]

Re: Form 4 wait time

What if your doing a form 1 ? Is is still (304) 616-4500 to check on it

 

[bohem]

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Yes, F1's and F4's call the same number.

 

[lazy21]

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form4 went out today

 

[wdebo]

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2 form 4's went out today.

 

[ggmanning]

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Forms turned in early August....approved Feb 14th. Dont remember the examiner off hand. Yeah 6 damn months....efficiency of our government at its best!

 

[bohem]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Form 1 - Suppressor, Trust
Date Mailed: 08 March
Received: 11 March
Check Cashed: ?
Pending: 05 April
Approved:
Forms in Hand:
Examiner: S. Snook

tag for later

Interesting note: I have a Form 4 that went in 4 weeks earlier than this and the Form 4 is still not "pending"

 

[Desert-Rat]

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My last addition to my trust was sent dec 13th, recvd on feb 6th approx!


2 more sent feb 23rd, I send to trust and use money order, have all returned within 6 weeks.

Prob just jinxed the crap out myself!

 

[Quickdraw40]

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Wooo Hooooooooo... Maybe there is something to this not calling and bugging them every day for a pending date... less than 60 days!!!!

Trust
Form 4s
(2) TBAC 30P-1s
Check sent: March 2, 2011
Check cashed: March 8, 2011
Pending: ???
Approved: April 25, 2011
In Hand: May 3, 2011
ATF examiner: Dana Pickls

 

[msrtex]

Re: Form 4 wait time

It seems to me form 4 transfers on a trust go quicker than to an individual? I would think with the additional signature of an LEO on an individual's form, it would be the one to go quicker. I realize the examiner has a lot to do with the time to approval.

 

[msrtex]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ggmanning</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Forms turned in early August....approved Feb 14th. Dont remember the examiner off hand. Yeah 6 damn months....efficiency of our government at its best! </div></div>

With 12 examiners and 34,037 transfers handled in 2010, I'd say they are doing a bang-up job. That would be about 56.7 transfers per examiner per week (if you account for a 2 week vacation and they probably get more).

 

[KYS]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bohem</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Form 1 - Suppressor, Trust
Date Mailed: 08 March
Received:
Check Cashed:
Pending:
Approved:
Forms in Hand:

tag for later </div></div>

We are in the same boat. I sent out the SAS Covert suppressor yesterday as well.

 

[bohem]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

We are in the same boat. I sent out the SAS Covert suppressor yesterday as well. </div></div>

Cool!

I have that above Form 1 in yesterday and a Form 4 that went in 4 weeks ago, maybe I'll get a different examiner and the Form 1 will come back faster than the Form 4.

 

[KYS]

Re: Form 4 wait time

My form 1's are moving faster then anything right now. Just got back 2 the other day. 7 weeks door to door.

Did one for a MK18 upper and the other is 300 black out in 9" bbl

 

[ggmanning]

Re: Form 4 wait time

msr, happy you are satisfied. I think 6 months wait is ridiculous.

By your numbers 56.7 x $200 is $11,340 a week produced per examiner.......hire some more people. Never said the examiners were inefficient.....the government agency that sees fit to understaff this process that is a cash cow because they don't care how long we wait is inefficiency personified.

 

[msrtex]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Unfortunately the NFA is not a cash cow since they are a government entity. The funds they collect do not fall under their discretion. The problem lies elsewhere.

 

[ggmanning]

Re: Form 4 wait time

I get your point and I agree. I still stand by the premise of my comment......government inefficiency. I am sure the examiners themselves work very hard with a large workload.

 

[msrtex]

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No argument, no sweat. And for the record, I never said I was happy. They have had my form 4 for too long also.

 

[lazy21]

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<span style="color: #CC0000">DO NOT send form 4's to the Chicago address(I learned the hard way).</span>

 

[lazy21]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lazy21</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="color: #CC0000">DO NOT send form 4's to the Chicago address(I learned the hard way).</span></div></div>

Got my package returned today, will try it again tomorrow.

 

[cal50]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Sent in and received around Xmas.
Pending January 11
Approved March 7

Examiner: Sandra Snook (?)

(Picking up new Osprey tomorrow weather permitting)

 

[bosulli]

Re: Form 4 wait time

AAC 6.8 M4-2000
Purchased: Oct 31
Law enforcement sign off: 11 30. They said 2 wks, but was 4 wks.
Check cashed: 12 5.
Pending: Jan 6
Approved: April 1st
Arrived at Dealer:April 6th
Picked up:April 15th
ATF examiner: Chris Ferris

Note: I called on April 6th, and the stated status was pending.

 

[clmayfield]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Tac Ops Tac 30 Supressor, NFA Trust
Check sent: Jan 4 2011
Check cashed: Jan 10 2011
Pending: Jan 25 2011
Approved: April 15 2011
Arrived at Dealer: ?
Examiner: ?

This sucks, it looks like my numbers line up with mooner, but he got approved a month ago. It is a crap shoot, I guess.

 

[KYS]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lazy21</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lazy21</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="color: #CC0000">DO NOT send form 4's to the Chicago address(I learned the hard way).</span></div></div>

Got my package returned today, will try it again tomorrow. </div></div>

You do realize the address is in the top corner of the form 4, right?
Don't see how you can miss that. And technically, your SOT should be sending in the form 4's as the item resides with him until approval. You should not be having to deal with it.

 

[msrtex]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And technically, your SOT should be sending in the form 4's as the item resides with him until approval. You should not be having to deal with it. </div></div>

I agree if you use a trust but the few I have done (individual), the SOT never sent it in. They always told me to. Could be because I had to pick it up from the LEO.

 

[lazy21]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lazy21</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lazy21</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="color: #CC0000">DO NOT send form 4's to the Chicago address(I learned the hard way).</span></div></div>

Got my package returned today, will try it again tomorrow. </div></div>

You do realize the address is in the top corner of the form 4, right?
Don't see how you can miss that. And technically, your SOT should be sending in the form 4's as the item resides with him until approval. You should not be having to deal with it. </div></div>

I'm buying the can from a individual, this is the form I used and notice the address is wrong(old atf po box)

http://www.86th.org/Form4_blank.pdf

lets try this again
form sent: 3/11/11

 

[KYS]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Use the forms on the ATF website. You can type in all info and print it out.

 

[KYS]

Re: Form 4 wait time

3 Suppressors on a trust

Sent in: 1-2-2011
Pending: 1-19-2011
Approved 3-08-2011
Forms in hand: 3-12-2011

 

[lazy21]

Re: Form 4 wait time

anyone have a recent tracking # on their form 4 that's delivered?

mine just got delivered and this came up

Your item was delivered at 11:39 am on March 12, 2011 in ATLANTA, GA 30348 to BANK AMER LOOP ROAD . The item was signed for by S BARNETT.

 

[KYS]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lazy21</div><div class="ubbcode-body">anyone have a recent tracking # on their form 4 that's delivered?

mine just got delivered and this came up

Your item was delivered at 11:39 am on March 12, 2011 in ATLANTA, GA 30348 to BANK AMER LOOP ROAD . The item was signed for by S BARNETT.

</div></div>

You are paranoid. They are there. Relax and enjoy the Federal wait time.

 

[jwsnydes]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Ugggh I went pending on March 8th. I've got a while...

 

[pfcustom]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Chicago lock box has not been used for many years now....Guys make sure you are using up to date forms!!!!

 

[cliffw]

Re: Form 4 wait time

NFA Item: suppressor X2
Form Type: Form 4
Transfer Type: Individual
Forms Sent: 02/15/11
Check Cashed: 02/24/11
Pending Date: 03/28/11
Approved Date: 06/03/11
Forms Received: 06/10/11
Examiner Name: ?

Got an email from dealer tonight paperwork is in 06/10, I can pick Monday 06/13.

 

[wallace11bravo]

Re: Form 4 wait time

1x Suppressor
1x SBR
Forms Sent: May 30 2010
Returned: Feb 3rd 2011

Yup... 8 months

 

[willy7586]

Re: Form 4 wait time

I sent my form 4 the 1st of December 2010. Check cleared my bank on December 7th. Was assigned to West on January 10th. Hopefully it will be returned any day now.

 

[Kpurdue04]

Re: Form 4 wait time

YHM Cobra M2 9mm can
Trust
Sent: 01/27/11
Pending: 02/23/11
Approved: 03/10/11
Arrived: 03/19/11
S. Santamaria
This is the third class 3 item on my trust. 52 days door to door.

 

[lazy21]

Re: Form 4 wait time

NFA Item: suppressor
Form Type: Form 4 on trust
Transfer Type: Individual
Forms Sent: 03/11/2011
Check Cashed: 03/15/11
Pending Date: 04/08/11
Approved Date: ?
Forms Received: ?
Examiner Name: ?

 

[willy7586]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: willy7586</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I sent my form 4 the 1st of December 2010. Check cleared my bank on December 7th. Was assigned to West on January 10th. Hopefully it will be returned any day now. </div></div>

Picked up my YHM 762 QD today. Happy Day!

 

[3O8Junkie]

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Pictures or it didn't happen! Congratulations! Lets see that beauty!

 

[stefan73]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wallace11bravo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">1x Suppressor
1x SBR
Forms Sent: May 30 2010
Returned: Feb 3rd 2011

Yup... 8 months </div></div>
Who was your reviewer?

 

[sgtsmmiii]

Re: Form 4 wait time

1. Silencerco Sparrow 22LR can
2. Form Type: Form 4 via Trust
3. Forms Sent: 12/21/10
4. Forms Received: ???
5. Check cleared: 12/29/10
6. Pending Date: ???
7. Approved Date: 3/15/2011
8. Forms Received: 3/17/2011
9. Examiner Name: Jason Frushour

Previous one was Nickie Dudash. Can't recall who did the first one right now. Never the same one twice.