Suppressors Form 4 wait time

[Charger442]

I figured I’d call this morning. I didn’t have to wait on hold at all. But I’m still pending on a paper form since 11/18/21. I figured this, but this is the first time I checked on this can.

Depressing thread is depressing.

A few pages back I saw some comments on the delayed BGC’s. I was delayed once a few years ago and immediately applied for my FBI UPIN, and haven’t been delayed since. I include my UPIN on all my NFA applications now in hopes to avoid and more delays.

I haven’t done a form4 e-form yet, but probably will start a couple before the end of the year.

make purchases now to be able to get your cans by Christmas 2023.

 

[black5.3]

I just submitted a E form 4 on a TBAC Dominus this past Monday(09/26/2022)and my fingerprint cards were sent out the same day. Im really hoping for Mar-April ‘23.

 

[matleez]

Well....Efile filed 4-11 denied due to either the shop fucking up or @Silencer Shop. Time to start all over again in 3-4 weeks while they figure it out. This whole process is a joke.

 

[KZP]

Well....Efile filed 4-11 denied due to either the shop fucking up or @Silencer Shop. Time to start all over again in 3-4 weeks while they figure it out. This whole process is a joke.

This is a known thing that popped up a while back. Look at box 10. It needs the persons name just not store/title.

 

[matleez]

This is a known thing that popped up a while back. Look at box 10. It needs the persons name just not store/title.

I see that....unfortunately I'm not an employee who loomed at that and said that's fine.....I managed to pass English 1: reading comprehension. Clearly the certifying officer or employee checking these didnt... guess it will be 2 years before I have this sucker

 

[Silencer Shop]

Well....Efile filed 4-11 denied due to either the shop fucking up or @Silencer Shop. Time to start all over again in 3-4 weeks while they figure it out. This whole process is a joke.

We are very sorry to hear about the denial, Matleez, I will send you a message to get your info and start the process to get you resubmitted. For some context here, the signing official denial occurs when the FFL employee doesn't use a registered name, IE box 10 says "FFL Store Manager" or something instead of "Joe Smith" The ATF made an amendment to the rule which said every signing official had to be personally identified. - Chase

 

[sam4886]

Funny how they can find, pull, and deny these forms from April but approvals are still stuck in February.

 

[Diesel79]

Funny how they can find, pull, and deny these forms from April but approvals are still stuck in February.

I was thinking the same. Mine was certified 4/7 but only see approvals from Feb.

 

[sam4886]

I was thinking the same. Mine was certified 4/7 but only see approvals from Feb.

I've got 2 for April 2. I feel ya.

 

[Schamsy33]

eForm 4 on four TBACS
Submitted 3/1/22
Approved 9/30/22
214 days

 

[ignortbuttrainable]

We are very sorry to hear about the denial, Matleez, I will send you a message to get your info and start the process to get you resubmitted. For some context here, the signing official denial occurs when the FFL employee doesn't use a registered name, IE box 10 says "FFL Store Manager" or something instead of "Joe Smith" The ATF made an amendment to the rule which said every signing official had to be personally identified. - Chase

so, for those of us who used silencer shop, is there anyway you can audit your efiles to see how many dealers did not fill out the forms correctly ? and, are you finding this to be a consistent problem throughout your dealer network?

 

[Charger442]

so, for those of us who used silencer shop, is there anyway you can audit your efiles to see how many dealers did not fill out the forms correctly ? and, are you finding this to be a consistent problem throughout your dealer network?

Lol. I wish you luck, sir.

 

[Louperez4]

7 months wait now fuck

 

[black5.3]

7 months wait now fuck

It sucks man but unfortunately this will continue to happen until someone with some pull holds the AFT accountable and makes them get their process straight… and I don’t really see that happening soon.

 

[Jnull]

7 months wait now fuck

It’s been 200+ days for sometime now. And the only way you’re going to see a 7 month approval is if you’re currently sitting at 7 months. Anything less and your wait will be longer since approval times increase almost daily.

 

[Jnull]

so, for those of us who used silencer shop, is there anyway you can audit your efiles to see how many dealers did not fill out the forms correctly ? and, are you finding this to be a consistent problem throughout your dealer network?

Silencer shop is only here to congratulate people for getting approved and asking what cans they got. When everyone was having real problems at the beginning of the year they were nowhere to be found. Couldn’t get email reply’s, anyone on the phone, dealers couldn’t even get their designated silencer shop reps on the phone. They knew all this was coming months in advance they could’ve staffed up to prepare.

With the amount of shit they’ve fucked up over the years they’re right up there with cheaper then dirt for company’s I won’t deal with. Fuck silencer shop.

I recommend Capitol armory to anyone especially if they can direct ship to your state, great guys to deal with.

 

[ignortbuttrainable]

Silencer shop is only here to congratulate people for getting approved and asking what cans they got. When everyone was having real problems at the beginning of the year they were nowhere to be found. Couldn’t get email reply’s, anyone on the phone, dealers couldn’t even get their designated silencer shop reps on the phone. They knew all this was coming months in advance they could’ve staffed up to prepare.

With the amount of shit they’ve fucked up over the years they’re right up there with cheaper then dirt for company’s I won’t deal with. Fuck silencer shop.

I recommend Capitol armory to anyone especially if they can direct ship to your state, great guys to deal with.

this is my first time going through this process. i did a great deal of homework researching the cans i wanted but, it is clear to me now, that i didn’t do a good job on my research on who to buy from. like my daddy told me once, everybody makes mistakes, smart people don’t make the same one twice.

 

[ignortbuttrainable]

this is my first time going through this process. i did a great deal of homework researching the cans i wanted but, it is clear to me now, that i didn’t do a good job on my research on who to buy from. like my daddy told me once, everybody makes mistakes, smart people don’t make the same one twice.

and it’s day 198. certified march 17th.

 

[Jnull]

and it’s day 198. certified march 17th.

Today is 211 for me. Would’ve been a good bit earlier but my dealer couldn’t get the silencershop portion to work and couldn’t get any support on the phone so we just had to keep trying until it worked.

 

[wizardpc]

It’s been 200+ days for sometime now. And the only way you’re going to see a 7 month approval is if you’re currently sitting at 7 months. Anything less and your wait will be longer since approval times increase almost daily.

Back when SS listed days instead of months, I was "3 weeks away" starting about day 70, and that was pretty consistent until they switched over to months. I'm at 198 now.

 

[Jnull]

Back when SS listed days instead of months, I was "3 weeks away" starting about day 70, and that was pretty consistent until they switched over to months. I'm at 198 now.

How bout it. I’ve been right on the approval line for so long and it just keeps getting pushed back.

 

[LSUbeatUby40]

so, for those of us who used silencer shop, is there anyway you can audit your efiles to see how many dealers did not fill out the forms correctly ? and, are you finding this to be a consistent problem throughout your dealer network?

The file will not show you so check the submitted/ in progress form that the ATF emailed you when your dealer certified..

 

[ignortbuttrainable]

The file will not show you so check the submitted/ in progress form that the ATF emailed you when your dealer certified..

i had not thought about that. i will go back through my emails. thanks.

 

[ignortbuttrainable]

The file will not show you so check the submitted/ in progress form that the ATF emailed you when your dealer certified..

this is what makes the hide a great place. so many people have so much knowledge they are willing to share. i went back and checked both of my applications and their is a name on the forms with their title. that’s one less concern disposed of.
thanks again for the help.

 

[Charger442]

7 months wait now fuck

We're going to be wishing it was 7 months when it hits a year . I have a feeling after June submittals will be atleast 12 months

Silencer shop is only here to congratulate people for getting approved and asking what cans they got. When everyone was having real problems at the beginning of the year they were nowhere to be found. Couldn’t get email reply’s, anyone on the phone, dealers couldn’t even get their designated silencer shop reps on the phone. They knew all this was coming months in advance they could’ve staffed up to prepare.

With the amount of shit they’ve fucked up over the years they’re right up there with cheaper then dirt for company’s I won’t deal with. Fuck silencer shop.

I recommend Capitol armory to anyone especially if they can direct ship to your state, great guys to deal with.

Preach it brother. Something I found out many years ago, back before silencer shop lost the ability to sell retail cans.

And then many forget SS crashed the first eforms site by batch submitting and screwing us all. I have nothing good to say about them.

Capital Armory typically gets my money and has for 8+ years

 

[7mm-matt]

Purchased 3 cans 8/30/21, cashed 9/21/21.

Just emailed both AZ Senator's and my District's Rep this morning. Hoping this kicks it in gear and the wait ends soon..

Well one year for me. Received my stamps for 3 cans 9/21/22

 

[30calDeath]

i have a feeling that by the end of the year, paper and efile will both be 1 year processing time. i also believe this is being purposely done. i have two that were certified on march 17th. day 195 for me. i contacted my congressional rep around day 150. atf response to their office was “pending”. atf is useless, totally useless.

If efile does in fact turn to be a year wait I'll do more than 2 cans next time, I'll at least double or triple that.

 

[Fishkat]

You know what makes you SMILE, just got the call to come pick up the suppressor.
Paper Trust
Check cashed 8-18-2021
Stamp at dealer 10-04-2022

 

[Jchap01i]

eFiled Feb 28th. Approval email today. 218 days.

 

[Nbleak21]

@Silencer Shop - any chance you can give us a weekly or monthly breakdown of eform 4s submitted from jan1, 2022- present? Big ask I know but I love me some data crunching and would love to see the curve of submissions even if it’s not from all sources.

 

[wizardpc]

Back when SS listed days instead of months, I was "3 weeks away" starting about day 70, and that was pretty consistent until they switched over to months. I'm at 198 now.

between this thread and the one on reddit, it seems that we are averaging around 218 days now.

Which means that I'm now only about 2 1/2 weeks away. I wonder how many months it'll be until I'm just a week away...

 

[Silencer Shop]

@Silencer Shop - any chance you can give us a weekly or monthly breakdown of eform 4s submitted from jan1, 2022- present? Big ask I know but I love me some data crunching and would love to see the curve of submissions even if it’s not from all sources.

You might be interested in our Reddit mega thread, Nbleak, we post customer approvals and customers share their approval times as well. - Chase

 

[ignortbuttrainable]

between this thread and the one on reddit, it seems that we are averaging around 218 days now.

Which means that I'm now only about 2 1/2 weeks away. I wonder how many months it'll be until I'm just a week away...

i should be right around the same time frame as you, but by the time we get to 218 it’ll be 250.

 

[QS-1911]

FINALLY APPROVED! (347 Days)
Although not showing on Silencer Shop Website as approved just yet.
Paper Form 4
Purchased: 30 September 2021
Tax Stamped Cashed: 26 October 2021
Approved: 4 October 2022
Pick up: Pending.......

 

[LeftyJason]

FINALLY APPROVED! (347 Days)
Although not showing on Silencer Shop Website as approved just yet.
Paper Form 4
Purchased: 30 September 2021
Tax Stamped Cashed: 26 October 2021
Approved: 4 October 2022
Pick up: Pending.......

It won't show as approved there for a paper.

 

[Bluedog82]

So…paper forms seem to be in the late October area. The last of the bulk paper should be early to mid December right? Once those are processed, fingers crossed that eforms start to speed up.

 

[QS-1911]

It won't show as approved there for a paper.

Why wouldn't it? It gives a pending status so I would assume it would show an approval status once processed.

 

[LSUbeatUby40]

It won't show as approved there for a paper.

Correct. I still show a can from 2018 and 2019 as pending even though I've had them for multiple years. Even asked @Silencer Shop to update the dashboard, but for some reason they won't or can't. Don't really remember the why..

 

[LeftyJason]

Why wouldn't it? It gives a pending status so I would assume it would show an approval status once processed.

My tbac 22take down that I have pics of it in my possession (was at a gun store with no range for its jail time) dated October of 20 still shows as pending. My ultra 7 that I've had since July also shows pending. No idea why. That would be a question for @Silencer Shop .

 

[FuhQ]

Why wouldn't it? It gives a pending status so I would assume it would show an approval status once processed.

It just doesn’t… None of mine showed up as approved on their site, but the stamps arrived at the dealers long ago.

Only the eForms system shows when approved.

 

[QS-1911]

My tbac 22take down that I have pics of it in my possession (was at a gun store with no range for its jail time) dated October of 20 still shows as pending. My ultra 7 that I've had since July also shows pending. No idea why. That would be a question for @Silencer Shop .

Interesting.... Had I not called the ATF about 30 minutes ago I would have been going off the pending status with no ideal it was approved on the 4th.

 

[stefan73]

I received an email from the ATF with a digital copy of my tax stamp and the next day I received another email from Silencer Shop saying I was approved.

 

[LeftyJason]

I received an email from the ATF with a digital copy of my tax stamp and the next day I received another email from Silencer Shop saying I was approved.

That's for E form 4's. Last few posts were about paper form 4's.

 

[Louperez4]

I received an email from the ATF with a digital copy of my tax stamp and the next day I received another email from Silencer Shop saying I was approved.

When was your purchase date

 

[stefan73]

When was your purchase date

My last approved one was 2/24/2022

I am still waiting on a 3/9/2022.

Both Efiles.

 

[stefan73]

That's for E form 4's. Last few posts were about paper form 4's.

Yep, I missed that part.

 

[Silencer Shop]

FINALLY APPROVED! (347 Days)
Although not showing on Silencer Shop Website as approved just yet.
Paper Form 4
Purchased: 30 September 2021
Tax Stamped Cashed: 26 October 2021
Approved: 4 October 2022
Pick up: Pending.......

You'll have to input your approval date manually for a paper form approval, but congrats! What suppressor are you picking up? - Chase

 

[Wile_Coyote]

Correct. I still show a can from 2018 and 2019 as pending even though I've had them for multiple years. Even asked @Silencer Shop to update the dashboard, but for some reason they won't or can't. Don't really remember the why..

Can’t is probably more the reason. The ATF answers to nobody. Every government organization is like that. Electronic communication for approval or denial, they could barely get the intake running. Government agencies are about 2 decades behind business and their rules, regulations and being allowed to operate however they want doesn’t help.

 

[Silencer Shop]

The paper forms will not update to "approved" in your Silencer Shop dashboard because we are not made aware when your application is processed, so it ahs to be updated manually.

 

[QS-1911]

You'll have to input your approval date manually for a paper form approval, but congrats! What suppressor are you picking up? - Chase

CGS Hyperion. Yes I manually inputted the date. Now to sit and wait for the Tax Stamp to be sent. Waited this long, what's another wait? LOL, SMH!