Suppressors Form 4 wait time

[Fmilby]

My last email from atf says submitted/in process. That was in august so I guess it’s gonna be awhile

 

[Bluedog82]

My last email from atf says submitted/in process. That was in august so I guess it’s gonna be awhile

At this rate you’re probably looking at close to a year (I’ve got one 8/25).

 

[Charger442]

At this rate you’re probably looking at close to a year (I’ve got one 8/25).

The hope is they are sone with all paper forms from 2021 and will start to accelerate on eforms. Trying to be positive but it can't get much worse

 

[Bluedog82]

The hope is they are sone with all paper forms from 2021 and will start to accelerate on eforms. Trying to be positive but it can't get much worse

It’s the federal government…it could always be worse!

 

[Fmilby]

At this rate you’re probably looking at close to a year (I’ve got one 8/25).

I went through silencer shop and they put up all of their approvals with dates. Looks like paper forms are a little over a year and e forms about 8 months .

 

[Bluedog82]

I went through silencer shop and they put up all of their approvals with dates. Looks like paper forms are a little over a year and e forms about 8 months .

Currently yes. But wait times seem to be increasing pretty consistently.

 

[Fmilby]

Currently yes. But wait times seem to be increasing pretty consistently.

 

[Katahdin]

Paper form 4 individual

TBAC Dominus
Submitted 03/12/22
Check cashed 03/29/22
Tax stamp received 12/27/22

 

[Fmilby]

Paper form 4 individual

TBAC Dominus
Submitted 03/12/22
Check cashed 03/29/22
Tax stamp received 12/27/22

Awesome I. Went with the Magnus. Congrats

 

[Hardholder439]

E File
Submitted 4/11/22
Approved 12/28/22
Picking it up today. Why didn't they approve the other 3? One background check for 4 items easy peasy. Oh wait, that involves efficiency. Something the Federal Govt. is incapable of. ...counting my blessings for the one.

 

[Diesel79]

Submitted 4/6/22

Disapproved today. They said the place of birth differed on fingerprints and the other form. No idea how this would have happened, unless dealer screwed it up. I didn’t fill out any info on the fingerprints, it was all done electronically.

Edit- I just found issue. Dealer put MI instead of MN for place of birth.

Said refund in process, but hopefully it can be easily fixed. However, dealer just told me one disapproved there is no fixing it.

I have another one from 5/26 so maybe 2024 I will see that one.

 

[Bluedog82]

Submitted 4/6/22

Disapproved today. They said the place of birth differed on fingerprints and the other form. No idea how this would have happened, unless dealer screwed it up. I didn’t fill out any info on the fingerprints, it was all done electronically.

Edit- I just found issue. Dealer put MI instead of MN for place of birth.

Said refund in process, but hopefully it can be easily fixed. However, dealer just told me one disapproved there is no fixing it.

I have another one from 5/26 so maybe 2024 I will see that one.

I think if the ATF sends it back you can get it approved real quick once the changes are made—it may just be a little bit for the refund to process.

 

[leftyk82]

Anyone have experience with a disapproval that notes the following?
Responsible person listed is not listed in the trust.

Have had many successful applications before. My wife is listed as a Successor Trustee in the trust. But have never filed with her being a responsible person until now.

Disapproved today. Will call tomorrow but thought I would ask here as well.

 

[FuhQ]

Submitted 4/6/22

Disapproved today. They said the place of birth differed on fingerprints and the other form. No idea how this would have happened, unless dealer screwed it up. I didn’t fill out any info on the fingerprints, it was all done electronically.

Edit- I just found issue. Dealer put MI instead of MN for place of birth.

Said refund in process, but hopefully it can be easily fixed. However, dealer just told me one disapproved there is no fixing it.

I have another one from 5/26 so maybe 2024 I will see that one.

I think once the correction(s) has been made, the dealer can request an expedited approval, since you’ve already been waiting in line, and the dealer screwed up, not you.

 

[BuildingConceptsllc]

Anyone have experience with a disapproval that notes the following?
Responsible person listed is not listed in the trust.

Have had many successful applications before. My wife is listed as a Successor Trustee in the trust. But have never filed with her being a responsible person until now.

Disapproved today. Will call tomorrow but thought I would ask here as well.

My only experience is doing that initially and then before I sent it all in, my SOT/FFL buddy advising me to take her out until I'm done with getting cans for a while then write her back in. That's what I did since you can easily write anyone in and out of the trust.

 

[nikonNUT]

Dead Air Mask
Purchased 12/18/2021
Certified 12/26/2021 -OR - 04/23/2022 (After the software screw up. Denied at 66 days)
Stamp recieved 12/30/2022
251 Days -OR- 377 Days

 

[southernpew]

I got really lucky back on 1/16/22. Dealer contacted me that a can I had been wanting come in stock, paid for it and was excited to see how this "eFile" process would play out for form 4s. 75 days later I got an email saying it was approved...

Paid for a 50cal can in June, submitted through another dealer, got denied because dealer didnt attach my fingerprints (digitally done at their shop), resubmitted that one in July

Just paid for a Rugged Razor on SilencerShop since it was on sale, fingers crossed this crap gets quicker

 

[mi650]

Salvo 12, certified on 12/28/22. This is my 1st e-form, so we'll see how long this one takes.

Haven't had an F4 take any less than 9 months. Last one was 14 months, but it and a pistol to go with it were both free, so I guess I shouldn't complain.

 

[greg1147]

Waiting 6/7/22 hopefully soon

 

[Bluedog82]

Waiting 6/7/22 hopefully soon

Minimum 2 months at this rate

 

[sam4886]

They're at about 4/10 - 4/12 right now. I got my 4/2 2 weeks ago, so that's about 2 weeks wait for 1 week difference in certified times. I think its been fairly steady at that rate for a while now. Figure June 7 is about 2 months out on certified dates, so probably 4 months before you're approved.

I feel your pain, I've got one waiting from June 6, too. Start looking hard about the first week of April.

 

[BuildingConceptsllc]

They're at about 4/10 - 4/12 right now. I got my 4/2 2 weeks ago, so that's about 2 weeks wait for 1 week difference in certified times. I think its been fairly steady at that rate for a while now. Figure June 7 is about 2 months out on certified dates, so probably 4 months before you're approved.

I feel your pain, I've got one waiting from June 6, too. Start looking hard about the first week of April.

So for mine on 5/7/22, I am probably about 6 weeks out now then right?

 

[sam4886]

So for mine on 5/7/22, I am probably about 6 weeks out now then right?

It's all sort of an inbred clusterfuck guessing game, but yeah, probably.

 

[padronanniversary]

So for mine on 5/7/22, I am probably about 6 weeks out now then right?

I have one certified on same date… curious who wins the waiting game

 

[ShadowAviator]

Well this is depressing.

Just submitted paperwork on my first suppressor. AB Raptor.

I guess I will just focus on building rifles in the meantime.

 

[davere]

Well this is depressing.

It's best to just forget the thing even exists, and then magically one day, you get a new toy!

 

[ChrisAU]

Submitted 4/11/22
Approved 1/4/23

Have another from 4/27 that I hope clears soon.

 

[Diesel79]

I think once the correction(s) has been made, the dealer can request an expedited approval, since you’ve already been waiting in line, and the dealer screwed up, not you.

I checked with ATF on this. Once it is disapproved it is dead. You have to resubmit and back of the line.

Wow is all I gotta say. Waited nearly 9 months and denied for a typing error on my FFL side.

I’m glad I bought another one in May that will come up sooner or later. That one better get approved. I spent good money on 3 surefire muzzle devices and 1 pin/weld.

 

[Electric B]

I had a serial number incorrect.
Dealer fixed it, 30-40 days later I had my stamp.

 

[Desert_Racer]

Day 248/90, where stamp?

 

[FuhQ]

Day 248/90, where stamp?

Right behind you…

 

[ChrisAU]

Day 248/90, where stamp?

Mine that was approved yesterday was 269. So 269 - 248 = 45 (per ATF, likely)

 

[Krob95]

I'm not patiently waiting.

 

[Bluedog82]

I'm not patiently waiting. View attachment 8039624

Only 3-4 months to go!

 

[Fmilby]

I'm not patiently waiting. View attachment 8039624

I’m waiting on a magnus sr as well and I’m a month behind you

 

[Radagast]

I have one certified on same date… curious who wins the waiting game

I was certified on 5/10 so I am right in the same area as you two. I'll be watching for your approvals!

 

[Jackalope]

Just got the approval for my 4/21 certified can. Seems like they may be through the paper form backlog.

 

[sig2009]

Funny. As bad as it was living in New Jersey with all the BS you have to go through to get a handgun purchase permit, it only took 90 days but this BS takes almost a year. What's the deal? They only have one person doing the paperwork?

 

[wizardpc]

Funny. As bad as it was living in New Jersey with all the BS you have to go through to get a handgun purchase permit, it only took 90 days but this BS takes almost a year. What's the deal? They only have one person doing the paperwork?

Because eff you, that's why.

They *could* do them in 15 minutes or less.
They *choose* to keep them for 8 or 9 months because they hate you

 

[Desert_Racer]

Because eff you, that's why.

They *could* do them in 15 minutes or less.
They *choose* to keep them for 8 or 9 months because they hate you

This guy gets it.

 

[Street Survival]

Mine took 14 months.

 

[QuadRail]

The Mod of that thread certainly understands statistical analysis. I have been watching this link from that mod for months on wait times for form 4 devices

Hey, that’s actually me - thanks for dropping a link. I’m definitely bias but those dashboards are a nice resource for anyone waiting… I decided to compiled this data because nobody else was doing it & I am waiting on my own eForms. Median wait is ~266 days atm. I just got my first eForm approved on 12/23 after 261 days but I’m waiting on 5 more.

Finally decided to make an account here after years of lurking.

 

[BuildingConceptsllc]

Cool. I have one that I did in April I think that's a 22lr one, but it was done at my buddy's shop so I don't know exactly when. I have one more with SS that was certified 05/07/22., so maybe I will get that one in a month or two. I know more likely 2 ish months

Form 4 - E-File (trust) - 22LR can

Certified 4/18/22

Stamp received 1/09/23

 

[2Barrels]

eForm 4 Trust
270 days
KGM R6.5
Certified 4/22/22

Still waiting.......

 

[BuildingConceptsllc]

eForm 4 Trust
270 days
KGM R6.5
Certified 4/22/22

Still waiting.......

I'd be interested to know how you like that can if you think about it and can pm me.

 

[Elnino31]

eForm 4 individual
Submitted on 4/21/22
Approved 1/10/23

 

[greg1147]

Because eff you, that's why.

They *could* do them in 15 minutes or less.
They *choose* to keep them for 8 or 9 months because they hate you

Yuo know what, we hate them!!!!!!!

 

[FuhQ]

Getting closer to 5/17…

 

[Elnino31]

Seems like they’re picking up the pace. Must be less in the que

 

[FuhQ]

Seems like they’re picking up the pace. Must be less in the que

Let’s hope!