Suppressors Form 4 wait time

[rustyinbend]

ATF trying to make politicians happy so they get "funding". If thousands are getting approved in 2-6 days VS the other thousands still taking 6-8 months, it would lower the avg wait to 3-4 months. I think when Eform was being proposed to legislation the ATF/FBI promised 6? months. 6 months was B.S. and politicians started asking them questions. This is just my guess anyways.

Hard to visualize Congress being that observant and planful ... but I guess it's possible. Most days, they can't find their own ass with both hands and a flashlight.

 

[carbonbased]

Not sure what's changed, but I bought a Suppressor at my LGS using the SilencerShop Kiosk ... and had NFA approval in 7 days. Suppressors used to take 6-to-8 months.

The American Suppressor Association worked with the ATF to streamline processing. Amazing that the ATF listened, and more amazing that they followed through.

Still can’t believe it. Are pigs flying yet?

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[codym]

Have a form 4 that ATF just recieved my finger print cards for yesterday. My dealer has forms being approved in days and some that have been pending for months.

How do you know when they have received your fingerprint cards?

 

[YotaEer]

Enticer STi

Submitted 12/15/23
Approved 5/1/24

Trust

 

[AznTactical]

For us guys that recently got approved is there a signature of an ATF agent signing off on them? My approved stamp on 04.29.2024 says "Authorized NFA Division official" only. All of my stamps, even my 2 free SBR's had an actual name on the approved Form 4's and Form 1's.

 

[Painterbolt]

How do you know when they have received your fingerprint cards?

I shipped them in a priority mail envelope with tracking.

 

[codym]

I should have done that

 

[Camelfilter]

For us guys that recently got approved is there a signature of an ATF agent signing off on them? My approved stamp on 04.29.2024 says "Authorized NFA Division official" only. All of my stamps, even my 2 free SBR's had an actual name on the approved Form 4's and Form 1's.

Just "Authorized NFA official".

Several in Feb.

2 in April.

 

[sandhiller]

The American Suppressor Association worked with the ATF to streamline processing. Amazing that the ATF listened, and more amazing that they followed through.

Still can’t believe it. Are pigs flying yet?

Are Fast eForms Transfers Here To Stay? - American Suppressor Association

When it comes to suppressors, wait times suck! Since they were first regulated in 1934, delays associated with Form 4 processing have been a reality that the suppressor community has had to live with. For years, the American Suppressor Association has actively advocated for changes to the...

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I didn't know there was such an animal as the ASA.

I might just look them up and see if I can throw a few bones their way.

Reward the good!

 

[K80/6.5]

Still waiting….

 

[Capri_Man]

Still waiting….

single or trust?

 

[K80/6.5]

Single shot

 

[crackerbrown]

Still waiting….

 

[K80/6.5]

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My first was over a year.

 

[1911hombre]

For us guys that recently got approved is there a signature of an ATF agent signing off on them? My approved stamp on 04.29.2024 says "Authorized NFA Division official" only. All of my stamps, even my 2 free SBR's had an actual name on the approved Form 4's and Form 1's.

They got sick of everybody emailing the examiners.

 

[Longshot231]

I didn't know there was such an animal as the ASA.

I might just look them up and see if I can throw a few bones their way.

Reward the good!

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[AznTactical]

They got sick of everybody emailing the examiners.

that was my thoughts too esp in this age of social media.

 

[Yondering]

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The American Suppressor Association worked with the ATF to streamline processing. Amazing that the ATF listened, and more amazing that they followed through.

Still can’t believe it. Are pigs flying yet?

Are Fast eForms Transfers Here To Stay? - American Suppressor Association

When it comes to suppressors, wait times suck! Since they were first regulated in 1934, delays associated with Form 4 processing have been a reality that the suppressor community has had to live with. For years, the American Suppressor Association has actively advocated for changes to the...

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Thanks for the info guys! I'm ashamed to say I wasn't a paying member before, but am now. I'd way rather support people like this who get things done than Fudds like the NRA.

 

[Browninglover1]

Filed my KGM R65 with a trust on Feb 6 and just got approved today. 86 days from filing to approval.

 

[carbonbased]

Filed my KGM R65 with a trust on Feb 6 and just got approved today. 86 days from filing to approval.

Well, there’s hope for me and my trust yet!

 

[Capri_Man]

Filed my KGM R65 with a trust on Feb 6 and just got approved today. 86 days from filing to approval.

was that an existing trust or a single shot?

 

[Browninglover1]

was that an existing trust or a single shot?

Existing trust. I was going to call it a "standard" trust but I'm an admitted newbie with NFA items and I'm sure that's not what it's called. It was a trust setup by an attorney specifically for the purpose of owning suppressors and SBRs.

I'm also the only responsible party on the trust.

 

[carbonbased]

Existing trust. I was going to call it a "standard" trust but I'm an admitted newbie with NFA items and I'm sure that's not what it's called. It was a trust setup by an attorney specifically for the purpose of owning suppressors and SBRs.

I'm also the only responsible party on the trust.

Ha! Awesome! That describes my situation too. Man o’ man would it be cool to get my can in three months.

Although even three months is pathetically slow.

I was going to just go individual and transfer it into my trust (for another $200) but I got lazy as Silencer Shop defaults to using my existing trust.

 

[cjs88]

Ha! Awesome! That describes my situation too. Man o’ man would it be cool to get my can in three months.

Although even three months is pathetically slow.

I was going to just go individual and transfer it into my trust (for another $200) but I got lazy as Silencer Shop defaults to using my existing trust.

It costs another $200 to add to an existing trust?! Ooof

 

[Charger442]

It costs another $200 to add to an existing trust?! Ooof

from an individual to a trust, because its a different entity has to transfer on a form 4, so $200

 

[Browninglover1]

It costs another $200 to add to an existing trust?! Ooof

Practically any time it changes ownership you have the $200 fee. Even if that owner is you and your transfer it to your trust.

 

[cjs88]

Dumb! Haven't they taken enough of my money

 

[LeftyJason]

Dumb! Haven't they taken enough of my money

That's why you put up with the wait of a trust. I don't want to give them more than I have too.

 

[lash]

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Thanks for the info guys! I'm ashamed to say I wasn't a paying member before, but am now. I'd way rather support people like this who get things done than Fudds like the NRA.

In an email from ASA today.

 

[doubloon]

In an email from ASA today.

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I really didn't need to see this.

 

[SEPAboltrifle]

Form 4 Individual electronically filed Tuesday night, issued this morning: time of flight 37h34m!

 

[Camelfilter]

Dumb! Haven't they taken enough of my money

Yup!

However, you COULD also think of it like a "savings":

Tax stamps started in 1934, I believe, and remained $200 (excluding AOW's).

So, adjusting for inflation each $200 stamp you own could cost you roughly $4,600. Each. Today.

If ATF kept up with the devaluation of the dollar...

Thanks ATF!

/sarc

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

Yup!

However, you COULD also think of it like a "savings":

Tax stamps started in 1934, I believe, and remained $200 (excluding AOW's).

So, adjusting for inflation each $200 stamp you own could cost you roughly $4,600. Each. Today.

If ATF kept up with the devaluation of the dollar...

Thanks ATF!

/sarc

Congress, not ATF. The dollar amount was set by law. The ATF has nothing to do with it other than administer the tax with the transfer forms. That is why the ATF was, up until the "War on Terror" reorganizations, within the Treasury Department. They were a revenue agency. Alcohol, tobacco, firearms, all have excise taxes.

That is where they should be still.

 

[rijndael]

Individual:
Submitted 4/29
Approved 5/2

So, 3 business days.

 

[Capri_Man]

In an email from ASA today.

View attachment 8409677

Do you have a link to the video?

 

[lash]

Do you have a link to the video?

 

[Camelfilter]

Congress, not ATF. The dollar amount was set by law. The ATF has nothing to do with it other than administer the tax with the transfer forms. That is why the ATF was, up until the "War on Terror" reorganizations, within the Treasury Department. They were a revenue agency. Alcohol, tobacco, firearms, all have excise taxes.

That is where they should be still.

Then, thanks Congress!

/sarc (<=== that's sarcasm, as in my initial post)

 

[Coejro]

Anyone seen updated times on Form 4 from a trust to a class 3 dealer? Wondering if this is also speeding up the first leg of out of state purchases on used supressors.

 

[Scopes]

Individual form 4
Certified 5/1/24
Approved 5/2/24

 

[Porksboy]

Trust form 4
Submitted 2/12/24
Still waiting

I keep getting locked out of Eforms web site, what a pain in the ass to reset for entry.
Anyone else get locked out?

 

[SonoranPrecision]

Trust Form 4
Certified 12/17/23
Approved 5/2/24

 

[joseph-98]

Individual
Submitted 4/02/24
Approved 4/20/24


Just submitted another one
Individual 5/2/24
Approved ....5/5/24

 

[HockeyGoalie27]

Still waiting here. Been waiting on one since the march 23rd and another since the 12th of April. The fact this seems like luck of the draw is...well it's typical.

 

[buyobuyo]

Still waiting on 2x F1 and 1x F4 on traditional trust from late Nov, late Dec and early March. There were a few posts here recently of trusts from my timeframe coming in, so I'm hoping they'll come in sooner than later.

 

[Chew]

Still waiting here. Been waiting on one since the march 23rd and another since the 12th of April. The fact this seems like luck of the draw is...well it's typical.

VERY! I am keep reading hours or days, and mine has been in since 4/5/2024. Oh well, I have waited over a year before, but still silly what random ass order they seem to have.

 

[7.62willdo]

I just got my stamp yesterday on a suppressor it’s been in jail almost 4 years yes 4 years! Yes I have other suppressors, yes no criminal record at all………. When the ATF first got my info it was a woman examiner and her first week on thejob, this was told to me by another examiner, any ways someone’s name was a close match to mine and bingo she failed me, even after I talked to her and she admitted I had other suppressors she still refused to help me at all, she could see my concealed carry permit and my other suppressors and my sbr’s it still took almost 4 years,

 

[Camelfilter]

I just got my stamp yesterday on a suppressor it’s been in jail almost 4 years yes 4 years! Yes I have other suppressors, yes no criminal record at all………. When the ATF first got my info it was a woman examiner and her first week on thejob, this was told to me by another examiner, any ways someone’s name was a close match to mine and bingo she failed me, even after I talked to her and she admitted I had other suppressors she still refused to help me at all, she could see my concealed carry permit and my other suppressors and my sbr’s it still took almost 4 years,

The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help...

 

[joseph-98]

Individual
Submitted 4/02/24
Approved 4/20/24


Just submitted another one
Individual 5/2/24
Approved ....waiting

Approved today 5/5/24.... i had no idea they worked weekends lol

 

[FieldGaugeFailure]

Still waiting here. Been waiting on one since the march 23rd and another since the 12th of April. The fact this seems like luck of the draw is...well it's typical.

VERY! I am keep reading hours or days, and mine has been in since 4/5/2024. Oh well, I have waited over a year before, but still silly what random ass order they seem to have.

Still waiting here as well, one can, individual. I hope we all get good news very soon.

 

[Niles Coyote]

Efile Form 4 trust
22 Nov 2023 certified
15 April 2024 approved