I’m in the same boat, doesn’t seem like this is speeding up transfers from individual/trust to class 3’s (at least not yet)
Last week I got an approval email on Saturday evening, Pacific time. Must be just an automated system doing it's thing 24/7 maybe?
E4 individual (local gun shop)
Certified 4/24
Approved 4/25
E4 trust (Silencer Shop)
Certified 1/25
Approved 4/22
E4 individual (Silencer Shop)
Certified 4/23
Approved 4/25
E4 trust (Silencer Shop)
Certified 2/6
Approved ??
I thought maybe the individual apps would push through the trusts in a batch, but no such luck..
Certified 4/24
Approved 4/25
E4 trust (Silencer Shop)
Certified 1/25
Approved 4/22
E4 individual (Silencer Shop)
Certified 4/23
Approved 4/25
E4 trust (Silencer Shop)
Certified 2/6
Approved ??
I thought maybe the individual apps would push through the trusts in a batch, but no such luck..
Asked my sot if he had any news on my approvals. He said I would know before him. I’m assuming he meant I would receive an email? Is this correct? What will I get? New to the eform stuff last stuff I did was prior eform.
Somebody posted something somewhere else that there was an announcement about some fix they were supposed to put in to make E-trust forms go almost as fast as E-individual
E-files get an email, no paper, and the last one I did (a while back) I found out before the dealer.
I *think* you're supposed to be able to check the status online?
T’was I.
Here in this thread. Here:
Suppressors - Form 4 wait time
Form 4 Trust. 150 days. -$200 stolen on 12.01.2023. -Stamp approved 04.29.2024.
www.snipershide.com
And here:
Suppressors - Form 4 wait time
Form 4 Trust. 150 days. -$200 stolen on 12.01.2023. -Stamp approved 04.29.2024.
www.snipershide.com
I came here just to post this same video I watched this afternoon. I hope that means they are going to have 1 week turnarounds for Trusts, too.
Well, just certified my new TBAC Magnus-S HUB this evening. We'll see how long it takes them.
TBAC Magnus-S HUB
SS Single-Shot Trust
Certified - 5/7/24
Approved - _______
TBAC Magnus-S HUB
SS Single-Shot Trust
Certified - 5/7/24
Approved - _______
That would be great! But I'm not holding my breath...I'll guess 5/11/24!
You'll get an email immediately from the E-forms system when it's approved. Then your dealer will see it too; depending on your dealer and how often they're checking for approval notifications it might be immediately to a day or two later. Mine seems to have a lot of NFA transfers going on right now so it took them a couple days to be ready for me to pick it up, both of these last two times. Yours may handle things differently though.
So if I’m understanding this video, the speed is for non multi person trust applicants….if so can a person apply single even if they have stamps as a multi person trust all ready……
You can always apply as single/ individual and get the tax stamp back, but it will not be in the trust. You can then pay ANOTHER $200 and transfer it into the trust.
I think they are working on the multi person trusts next after they work through some of the other backlog first. Faster trusts are coming I think.
This from the ASA helped explain it.
Are Fast eForms Transfers Here To Stay? - American Suppressor Association
When it comes to suppressors, wait times suck! Since they were first regulated in 1934, delays associated with Form 4 processing have been a reality that the suppressor community has had to live with. For years, the American Suppressor Association has actively advocated for changes to the...
americansuppressorassociation.com
I'm hoping that when a fly 9 comes in (have a deposit on one from a dealer that is supposed to be getting some in soon), I am going to submit it and a form 1 Sbr at the same time. Going to be Sbr ing my threaded 6" Beretta Neos.
My Form 4's have taken 2-4 days recently. Longest about 2 years ago was 294 days. Shortest before this sudden surge in approvals was like 49 days. Then it became 2-4 days max. It's almost faster than Amazon Prime. Order on a Sunday/Monday, and pick it up on Thursday or Friday.
It's a shame they won't allow new machine guns to be purchased. They'd make a killing on Form 4 tax stamps. New MP7s, new MP5s, etc...
It's a shame they won't allow new machine guns to be purchased. They'd make a killing on Form 4 tax stamps. New MP7s, new MP5s, etc...
SS trust
E-file form 4
Submitted 12/26/23
Approved 5/8/2024
This was after having a congress representative check on the status last week (had a proceed from NICS, waiting on examiner).
Also have another SS trust form 4 submitted 3/21 that did not get approved yet. ATF still showed it "pending" last week.
E-file form 4
Submitted 12/26/23
Approved 5/8/2024
This was after having a congress representative check on the status last week (had a proceed from NICS, waiting on examiner).
Also have another SS trust form 4 submitted 3/21 that did not get approved yet. ATF still showed it "pending" last week.
Ouch! I bought mine in December and was approved within a few weeks. It's a great can. I got it for 5.7x28 and while there's a bit more backpressure than the Lithium with 5.7, it seems to shoot tighter groups on the M&P 5.7 and has no POI shift. The titanium baffles are easy to clean in an ultrasonic as well. Pinesol + water and 30 minutes. Wipes right off.
Nice I’m looking forward to it. Going to start it on a CZ 457 22. Was yours a trust or individual?
It was Individual. I hear trusts are speeding up as well.
Lucky you! Mine filed in January is still pending. Hopefully soon!!!
Figured I'd try out the new wait times.
I've ordered a OCL Polonium k for a blasting can, we'll see when that gets back in stock.
Is there any truth to what people are saying about running a 4473 or having other NFA items to speed things up? I feel like that would have little to no effect on how fast it gets to someones desk.
I've ordered a OCL Polonium k for a blasting can, we'll see when that gets back in stock.
Is there any truth to what people are saying about running a 4473 or having other NFA items to speed things up? I feel like that would have little to no effect on how fast it gets to someones desk.
The journey begins today. Went to my dealer and paid for a couple suppressors. He filed the e form for a form 4 transfer while I watched.
Years ago I had several form 4 transfers. The first took 90 days, some were done in 7.
Will be interesting to see how much things have changed.
Years ago I had several form 4 transfers. The first took 90 days, some were done in 7.
Will be interesting to see how much things have changed.
Doubt it. Had NFA stuff, also had NFA stuff going thru the process just before this upgrade. Approved in Feb.
Amidst that approval timeframe Oregon auto-canceled my drivers license (because Massachusetts auto-extended a drivers license I hadn't had in 10 friggen years), so OR State Police canceled 2 firearms background checks I did in March. Not delayed or rejected, canceled. A phone in by the FFL using my Oregon CHL garnered an approval along with letting me know I didn't have a drivers license (for an unknown timeframe).
Straightened out DL the following week, same DL # reissued. With the "real ID" scam. New pic. Expires 2032.
Bought a suppressor early April 6 day approval, another end of April 2 day approval.
Prior to the DL crud was always instant approval on firearms purchases/transfers (Oregon, everything goes thru an FFL/4473)...
So in short, I believe if you don't have any issues which would require a person at ATF/NICS to have to look into (common name, name associated with some criminal, misdemeanor convictions etc etc) my understanding is its all automated. Then batch rubber stamped by a bureaucrat "approved electronically by ATF official".
Edit, Tues 5/14: Picked up an FAL varient STG58C (by EAI) yesterday. Back to instant approval BGC's...
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E-file single shot trust
Submitted 01/23/2024
Approved 05/13/2024
Submitted 01/23/2024
Approved 05/13/2024
Single Person trust E-file. Submitted 2 cans just got approval for one back.
Submitted 01/10/24
Approved 05/13/24.
Submitted 01/10/24
Approved 05/13/24.
Jr., Sr., II, III, LXXII, OSB, SJ, Esq
Confirmed. I was held up a couple weeks while this was being worked on. Yesterday afternoon I was able to successfully submit my eFile form 4 at my LGS along with another individual who was in the store that also had a cadence in their name.
Follow-up on my submission following the ATF fixing the cadence issue:
eForms Form 4, Individual
Submission on 6:55pm EST - 05/14/24
Approval on 8:50am EST - 05/16/24
eForms Form 4, Individual
Submission on 6:55pm EST - 05/14/24
Approval on 8:50am EST - 05/16/24
I got caught up in the cadence issue. Paid for cans on 05/10. E form 4’s submitted 05/15.
Received email saying applications received/in processing.
Received email saying applications received/in processing.
If you call the ATF, they will just tell you "it's pending" in the most unhelpful tone. If you ask "is there any further status I can get on it", they will just repeat themselves and ask if there is a different control number you want looked up.
I haven't even received so much as a speeding ticket in over 10 years, and I'm 30+ days waiting. Technically I should be done by now, given that I've submitted within the window of quick returns, but nope.
update:
E4 individual (local gun shop)
Paid and Certified 4/24
Approved 4/25
E4 trust (Silencer Shop)
Order Placed 12/26/23
Certified 1/25/24
Approved 4/22/24
E4 individual (Silencer Shop)
Order Placed 4/6/24
Certified 4/23/24
Approved 4/25/24
E4 trust (Silencer Shop)
Order Placed 1/13/24
Certified 2/6/24
Approved 5/15/24
E4 Individual (Capitol Armory)
Ordered 5/6/24
Certified 5/13/24
Approved 5/16/24
(still not received)
Local Gun shop is still the fastest way to get a suppressor if they have it in stock. The online sources are convenient but do take more time.
8-1/2 months...O*U*C*H !!!!Flow 556k just got approved today. Just over 8.5 months. Fucking death wait
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