Suppressors Form 4 wait time

[scottieb042674]

Re: Form 4 wait time

1. TB 30P1 Second one
2. Form 4
3. Trust
4. Sent 3-18-12
5. Check cashed first part of april
6. Pending? Didn't ask
7. Approved 10-11-12
8. Received 10-23-12
9. Bamera

Time to order again

 

[Sendero_Man]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: teerex</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sounds like a missing Certification of Compliance. It is form 5330.20.


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does this have to go in for everyone if you send in a form 4 for a suppressor ?


<span style="color: #FF0000">EDIT ....</span>

based on this FFL Newsletter (page 5) http://princelaw.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/1108fflnewsletter.pdf

it is not necessary for a TRUST

 

[Bonjourjr]

Re: Form 4 wait time

1. NFA Item: SBR lower
2. Form Type: Form 1
3. Transferee Type: Trust
4. Forms Sent: 05/01/12
5. Check Cashed: 05/09/12
6. Pending Date:06/12/12
7. Approved Date: 11/05/2012
8. Forms Received: 11/10/2012
9. Examiner: Shannon Siviero/Missouri

Pending-> Approved:146 days
Pending-> Stamp Received:151 days

 

[Bonjourjr]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sendero_man</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: teerex</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sounds like a missing Certification of Compliance. It is form 5330.20.


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does this have to go in for everyone if you send in a form 4 for a suppressor ?


<span style="color: #FF0000">EDIT ....</span>

based on this FFL Newsletter (page 5) http://princelaw.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/1108fflnewsletter.pdf

it is not necessary for a TRUST

</div></div>

I recently had a suppressor with an error status because it was missing the Certification of Compliance. I was doing 2 transfers with a trust in one envelope and only sent one 5330.20 in. There must have been a mistake somewhere. I just sent in the compliance form and received my stamp a week or so later.

 

[Sendero_Man]

Re: Form 4 wait time

so, you are saying they are necessary even for a Trust ?

copied from page 5...

"nor is the submission of ATF F 5330.20, Certification of Compliance with 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B), required."

 

[Bonjourjr]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sendero_man</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so, you are saying they are necessary even for a Trust ?

copied from page 5...

"nor is the submission of ATF F 5330.20, Certification of Compliance with 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B), required."

</div></div>
The date on that link you provided was from 2008 so it is a few years old. As for sending in the compliance form, ever since I got that error for not sending in the 5330.20 for transferring and item with a TRUST I always send it in and haven't got an error on any of my items on a trust since

So I would guess yes based off my transfer experiences.

 

[Sendero_Man]

Re: Form 4 wait time

okay, thanks

 

[Sendero_Man]

Re: Form 4 wait time

found this when searching...

http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/certification.html

might help others ....

 

[1shot2kill]

Re: Form 4 wait time

45 osprey
Gave completed paperwork to dealer middle of April
Check cashed middle of may
Pending 06/12
Approved 10/25
Received 11/09

 

[Matt.Cross]

Re: Form 4 wait time

NFA item: Ops Inc 12th .30 cal
via Trust
Forms Sent: Feb 20, 2012
Check cashed: May 2, 2012
Pending: June 4, 2012
Approved: Not sure
Received: November 11, 2012
Examinerana Pickles


It's all over except the ear-to-ear grinning, which is only beginning.

 

[koz]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matt.Cross</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NFA item: Ops Inc 12th .30 cal
via Trust
Forms Sent: Feb 20, 2012
Check cashed: May 2, 2012
Pending: June 4, 2012
Approved: Not sure
Received: November 11, 2012
Examinerana Pickles


It's all over except the ear-to-ear grinning, which is only beginning.

</div></div>

Glad to finally see a Pickles approval. Seems like he's running slow right now. I've got one a few days behind you.

 

[wfjames22]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: koz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Glad to finally see a Pickles approval. Seems like he's running slow right now. I've got one a few days behind you. </div></div>

You sure you're waiting on Pickles? My last two were signed by Sara Jones and I'm in TN as well. They were approved 9/14/12.

 

[LanceS4803]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matt.Cross</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NFA item: Ops Inc 12th .30 cal
via Trust
Forms Sent: Feb 20, 2012
Check cashed: May 2, 2012
Pending: June 4, 2012
Approved: Not sure
Received: November 11, 2012
Examinerana Pickles


It's all over except the ear-to-ear grinning, which is only beginning.

</div></div>

2 1/2 months to check cashing?
Wow, that puts a lag in everything.
Still seems to be running 6 months (normally), from mail to mail.

 

[Kevlars]

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Ya thats what I experienced as well... same time frame as above ... but still waiting....

 

[Killer Spade 13]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Anyone on here from SC, GA, AL or MS???
Just wondering how our examiner is doing . . . .

 

[methos12]

Re: Form 4 wait time

NFA Item: TBAC 30BA
Trust
Forms Sent: Sept 14, 2012
Check cashed: ?
Pending: Sept 26, 2012
Approved: TBD
Received: TBD
Examiner: ?

 

[Matt.Cross]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matt.Cross</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NFA item: Ops Inc 12th .30 cal
via Trust
Forms Sent: Feb 20, 2012
Check cashed: May 2, 2012
Pending: June 4, 2012
Approved: Not sure
Received: November 11, 2012
Examinerana Pickles
</div></div>

This is terribly wrong and needs to be corrected for the record:

NFA item: Ops Inc 12th .30 cal
via Trust
Forms Sent:<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic"> April 25th, 2012 </span></span>
Check cashed: May 2, 2012
Pending: June 4, 2012
Approved: <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Nov 5th, 2012</span></span>
Received: November 11, 2012
Examinerana Pickles

Sorry I didn't get it right the first time, I was way off on my send off date.

 

[bohem]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bohem</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
<span style="text-decoration: underline">Form 1</span>
Mailed 23 March
Cashed 02 April
Pending 18 April
Approved 15 Sept
<span style="font-weight: bold">In Hand 22 Sept</span>

<span style="text-decoration: underline">Form 1</span>
Mailed 16 May
Cashed 30 May (today)
Pending 20 June
<span style="font-weight: bold">Approved 09 Nov
In Hand 16 Nov</span>
</div></div>


Changes in <span style="font-weight: bold">BOLD</span>, Form 1 was approved and it should be just about 6 months door to door.

 

[PGG]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Sending 8 form fours tomorrow how long is Texas taking right now? I am guessing 7-8 months? I also have three sent in early June I have not checked on. Thanks PG

Here is what I am sending off today.

1. AWC .22 Mag Integral Ruger Riffle Love all my AWC's
2. Bowers .50 Sub for my Beowulf or .510 Whisper
3. Mack .223 just wanted to see what George was talking about
4. Liberty .22 Runt tiny tiny CAN cant wait + customer service
5. Liberty Essence .22 read a story super customer service
6. Liberty infinity 9mm Love great customer service
7. YHM .308 Ti like my others YHM other then mites
8. Mosberg Shorty 12g by Usselton a great gift from a friend

 

[Cvarney]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Had mine sent back to my dealer last week. A bit of back and forth communication with the examiner but should be squared away tommorrow. Guess I'm getting close now...

 

[Brandon05_88]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Brandon05_88</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Brandon05_88</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Brandon05_88</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NFA Item: TBAC 30P-1
Transferee Type: Individual
Ordered: 1/3/12
Checked with Dealer: 1/30/12
TBAC lost order, so order actually placed on 1/30/12.
Arrived at Dealer: 3/20/12
Forms Sent: 4/25/12
Delivered: 4/28/12
Check Cashed: ???
Pending Date: 6/6/12
Approved Date: 11/7/12
Forms Received:
Examiner: Dana Pickles

</div></div>
Pending Date: 6/6/12

Dude on the phone said it should be approved end of November/beginning of December.</div></div>
Approved Date: 11/7/12

5 months 1 day pending to approved.</div></div>
Forms Received: 11/15/12
Examiner: Sandra Snook

 

[PGG]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cvarney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Had mine sent back to my dealer last week. A bit of back and forth communication with the examiner but should be squared away tommorrow. Guess I'm getting close now... </div></div>

Cvarney once the error is corrected you will normally get it back fast like 1-2 weeks tops. I have had three errors to correct in the past and this is what it was for me each time. Good luck PG

 

[K_4c]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PGG</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cvarney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Had mine sent back to my dealer last week. A bit of back and forth communication with the examiner but should be squared away tommorrow. Guess I'm getting close now... </div></div>

Cvarney once the error is corrected you will normally get it back fast like 1-2 weeks tops. I have had three errors to correct in the past and this is what it was for me each time. Good luck PG </div></div>

good to know... my error was identified on the 6th.... any day now.

 

[AJB]

Re: Form 4 wait time

NFA item: Surefire FA762SS
Form type: Trust
Transfer type: Individual
Forms sent: 11/1/12
Check cashed:
Pending date: 11/26/12
Approved date:
Forms received:
Examiner name: Albert Lamberger

 

[Asm1]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Killer Spade 13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone on here from SC, GA, AL or MS???
Just wondering how our examiner is doing . . . . </div></div> 2 weeks shy of six months from check cashed was contacted with an error, should be going threw now soon, just don't know how the turnkey day will hamper it all ?

Got the call, two cleared today ... Will edit and post up dates of everything when I get my paperwork in Front of me tomorrow.

 

[gonzaga]

Re: Form 4 wait time

They cashed my check within a week, now I wait.
Is there a way that you guys are checking on the status
of your NFA approval?

 

[THE MGD]

Re: Form 4 wait time

You really need to read back before you post a question.
this is page 1 of this thread.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TypeR632</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Phone, you need your serial number for the item. Number is
304-616-4500, store it in your phone. </div></div>

it will be under your name for individual or your trust name under a trust. you may also need your dealers company name.

otherways to check this are to compare pending to approval times here or visit other places such as nfatracker.com

** no information is as good as NFAs (listed # above). if you have any basic questions please contact your dealer.

For the rest of us here
I'll start working on a work on a basic suppressor FAQ for a sticky. Im no guru so ill put what i know and have you other guys help me fill in the blanks.

 

[gonzaga]

Re: Form 4 wait time

I didn't realize that I'm supposed to read 40 pages back before we ask questions.

 

[Killer Spade 13]

Re: Form 4 wait time

And for what it's worth, you'll be told only if it's pending or not. You will not be told when it will be approved. You WILL be told that approval times are approximately 6 months from the time the application became pending.

 

[Cvarney]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PGG</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cvarney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Had mine sent back to my dealer last week. A bit of back and forth communication with the examiner but should be squared away tommorrow. Guess I'm getting close now... </div></div>

Cvarney once the error is corrected you will normally get it back fast like 1-2 weeks tops. I have had three errors to correct in the past and this is what it was for me each time. Good luck PG </div></div>

Got everything needed to the ATF, the guy that was going over my trust there was William Thurston, and a note from my seller mentioned "inspector #8" or something like that was assigned to it. I got an email from him this morning saying he's recieved everything and is passing it on to the examiner for approval. So i'm guessing around the 1st of Dec roughly. I imagine it being a holiday week will slow it down a bit too. But it's nice to see the end of the tunnel.

 

[Bonjourjr]

Re: Form 4 wait time

1. NFA Item: SBR lower
2. Form Type: Form 1
3. Transferee Type: Trust
4. Forms Sent: 05/01/12
5. Check Cashed: 05/09/12
6. Pending Date:06/12/12
7. Approved Date: 11/05/2012
8. Forms Received: 11/10/2012
9. Examiner: Siviero/Missouri

Pending-> Approved:146 days
Pending-> Stamp Received:151 days

 

[Delta24]

Re: Form 4 wait time

1. NFA Item: Liberty TORCH QA
2. NFA Form Type: Form 4
3. Transferee Type: Trust
4. Forms Sent: 10/18/12
5. Check Cashed: 10/20/12
6. Pending Date: 11/02/12
7. Approval Date: <span style="color: #FF0000">TBD</span>
8. Forms Received: <span style="color: #FF0000">04/16/2013</span>
9. Examiner: <span style="color: #FF0000">TBD</span>

 

[lazy21]

Re: Form 4 wait time

TTF ARK
Trust
Forms sent: 9/25/2012
Check Cashed: 9/28/2012
Pending:10/04/12
Approved:
Examiner: Sara Jones


TTF ARK30
Trust
Forms sent: 9/25/2012
Check Cashed: 9/28/2012
Pending:10/04/12
Approved:
Examiner: Sara Jones


TTF ARCHANGEL
Trust
Forms sent: 9/25/2012
Check Cashed: 9/28/2012
Pending:10/04/12
Approved:
Examiner: Sara Jones


TBAC 338BA
Trust
Forms sent: 9/25/2012
Check Cashed: 9/28/2012
Pending:10/04/12
Approved:
Examiner: Sara Jones


GEMTECH OUTBACK II
Trust
Forms sent: 9/25/2012
Check Cashed: 9/28/2012
Pending: 10/04/12
Approved:
Examiner: Sara Jones

 

[athhud]

Re: Form 4 wait time

1. NFA Item: AAC Cyclone
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transferee Type: Individual
4. Forms Received in Atlanta: 11/12/12
5. Check Cashed: 11/14/12
6. Pending Date:?
7. Approved Date:5/30/13
8. Forms Received:6/10/13
9. Examiner:Siviero

 

[rg1911]

Re: Form 4 wait time

1. NFA Item: machinegun (M2 carbine)
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Seller (in North Carolina) submitted Form 4 to BATFE February 2012.
4. BATFE approved seller's Form 4 in March.
5. Seller shipped item to local dealer.
6. Buyer (me) submitted Form 4 to sheriff 10 April.
7. Buyer received Form 4 from sheriff 7 May. (Would have been earlier, but had to travel for funeral.)
8. Buyer mailed Form 4 to BATFE 8 May.
9. BATFE cashed check 11 May.
10. Form 4 approved 15 November.
11. Forms Received by Dealer: 5 December 2012
12. Picked up: 6 December 2012
12. Examiner: Sandra Snook

Cheers,
Richard

 

[corey4]

Re: Form 4 wait time

just called to check on my form 4's...

are you guys seeing any approved from pending early july? mine were pending on the 5th.

 

[lazy21]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: corey4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">just called to check on my form 4's...

are you guys seeing any approved from pending early july? mine were pending on the 5th.</div></div>

I have two pending 7/9......nothing

 

[dddoo7]

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mine is pending 6/14 and all they have told me is that it was transferred to the examiners desk on Oct 24 and is just waiting on his signature. I didn't realize that they would give you a date on that stage. I would hate to see the amount of paperwork on that desk!

 

[thumper49802]

Re: Form 4 wait time

where do I go to get the info to check on this? Ive got two cans waiting right now...

 

[corey4]

Re: Form 4 wait time

304-616-4500

you need your serial number
name that the item is under (your name or trust name)
who you bought it from

at least this is what she asked me today. you may need more info or less depending on who you talk to. it is the govt after all...

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Form 4 wait time

NFA tracker is no where close to accurate anymore. My can went pending August 27th and it keeps telling me I have a 58% chance of December which in reality with the 6 month waits I'm looking at late January or early February of next year.

 

[K_4c]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Sorry to break it to ya Broker.... your most likely right. I received a problem status/notice November 6th, resubmitted correction and it went pending approval 15 November.... still nothing (my original pending date was June 22).

keep your head up man....

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sorry to break it to ya Broker.... your most likely right. I received a problem status/notice November 6th, resubmitted correction and it went pending approval 15 November.... still nothing (my original pending date was June 22).

keep your head up man.... </div></div>

Nothing like a 12 month wait for my first can... lol. *note to self* "Only purchase in-stock suppressors from now on"

 

[Pat M]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Suppressor / Trust

Pending June 12 - Received November 19 = hair over 6 months

 

[K_4c]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sorry to break it to ya Broker.... your most likely right. I received a problem status/notice November 6th, resubmitted correction and it went pending approval 15 November.... still nothing (my original pending date was June 22).

keep your head up man.... </div></div>

Nothing like a 12 month wait for my first can... lol. *note to self* "Only purchase in-stock suppressors from now on"

</div></div>

Funny thing is.... I too ordered an out of stock can.... threw the cash down Jan. 22

this has been an extremely long wait.

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Funny thing is.... I too ordered an out of stock can.... threw the cash down Jan. 22

this has been an extremely long wait. </div></div>

Lol... February 2nd...

 

[Pat M]

Re: Form 4 wait time

My dealer sat on my paper work for 4+ months after getting the cans = so one took over a year and then next was 10 months ( i even bugged them to make sure everything was on track) / yes i was pissed

Have both in my hands now.

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pat M</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My dealer sat on my paper work for 4+ months after getting the cans = so one took over a year and then next was 10 months ( i even bugged them to make sure everything was on track) / yes i was pissed

Have both in my hands now. </div></div>

Dude... That's total bullshit man. Tell me he refunded some of your money at least? You should post up who ever it was you used so no one else gets shafted like that.

 

[Pat M]

Re: Form 4 wait time

they never charged me a transfer fee (i would have flipped) & person handling transfers was fired (because of these and many others) and gone for many months now.

 

[Killer Spade 13]

Re: Form 4 wait time

GOT THE CALL TODAY!!!

And on my birthday ! ! ! How's about THAT!!!

Went pending June 25th. 4 days shy of 5 months !!!

Hope springs eternal . . .