Suppressors Form 4 wait time

[Bonjourjr]

Re: Form 4 wait time

1. NFA Item: Suppressor
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transferee Type: Trust
4. Forms Sent: 05/01/12
5. Check Cashed: 05/09/12
6. Pending Date:06/12/12
7. Approved Date: 11/05/2012
8. Forms Received: 11/24/2012
9. Examiner: Siviero/Missouri

Pending-> Approved:146 days
Pending-> Stamp Received:165 days

 

[Killer Spade 13]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Guess I should have clarified that a bit.

Trust
Forms sent: 15 May, 2012
Check cashed: 22 May, 2012
Pending: 25 June, 2012
Received: 21 November, 2012 - Notified by Dealer that stamp was in / pick up suppressor
Examiner: Siviero

 

[John L]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lazy21</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: corey4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">just called to check on my form 4's...

are you guys seeing any approved from pending early july? mine were pending on the 5th.</div></div>

I have two pending 7/9......nothing

</div></div>

Mine went pending 7/9 also. Nothing yet.

 

[verdugo60]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: John L</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lazy21</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: corey4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">just called to check on my form 4's...

are you guys seeing any approved from pending early july? mine were pending on the 5th.</div></div>

I have two pending 7/9......nothing

</div></div>

Mine went pending 7/9 also. Nothing yet. </div></div>

Right there with you guys, but I hope we are close. What a sweet Christmas Present this would make!

 

[pyplynr]

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Me too. My form 1 went pending July 6th. Hoping it comes quick. Hunting with an AR15 pistol in 300blk is kinda the shits.

 

[RyeDaddy]

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Got an error letter about my July 9th pending suppressor, they said schedule A was not included, which is bullshit. It's page 30 of the 36 page trust I sent with it.

At any rate they're getting into July pendings for those holding their breath.

 

[corey4]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RyeDaddy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Got an error letter about my July 9th pending suppressor, they said schedule A was not included, which is bullshit. It's page 30 of the 36 page trust I sent with it.

At any rate they're getting into July pendings for those holding their breath. </div></div>

so, in theory, you should be bout 2 weeks out, right?

as far as the error letters, do they go to the dealer or the owner of the item?

 

[RyeDaddy]

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2 weeks or less in theory. I emailed a PDF of the schedule A they needed, and the assistant said it should be approved in the next day or two. That's how it went with my last error letter. That one I snail mailed the correction back and had the approved form in hand 2 weeks later.

Error letter went to my dealer.

 

[K_4c]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">just called today... I've never been so excited to hear there's a problem with my paper work.

check cashed: June 5th
pending: June 22nd
problem notice: 6th November

There's hope for us yet. </div></div>

Approved November 24th..... on my birthday... that's pretty ironic.

still waiting for the call.

 

[corey4]

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so this is what it felt like as a kid waiting for christmas! i'll be 33 soon, so its been awhile since i've been super excited about christmas. i'm definitly calling off work the next day!!!

and this has nothing to do with our cans coming around christmas time. it just happens to be that way.

the reason i ask is that my dealer is not very good at calling when things come in. i ordered a storm lake barrel, and he told me it would be 6-8 weeks before it came in. so i happened to stop in one day ask if it was in yet. "oh, it's been here for awhile". this was on week 10. also, if you call and ask on availabilty or price for a gun, they say, "i'll call you back on that". oh well...his loss.

 

[THE MGD]

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Called today to check on the status...
(Mind you ive checked on my 3 form 4s before and got their pending date.)
1 form 4 had a problem status but was corrected the next day (on its own) *raised eyebrow* and the agent on the phone could not tell me what the problem was... *another, raised eyebrow*
And my other 2 forms, no longer have any record....
agent said "call your dealer".
I am beyond words, msg left with dealer.

 

[corey4]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Called today to check on the status...
(Mind you ive checked on my 3 form 4s before and got their pending date.)
1 form 4 had a problem status but was corrected the next day (on its own) *raised eyebrow* and the agent on the phone could not tell me what the problem was... *another, raised eyebrow*
And my other 2 forms, no longer have any record....
agent said "call your dealer".
I am beyond words, msg left with dealer. </div></div>

thats BS.

let us know how you resolve it in case it happens to us.

 

[DieselWSM]

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Sorry for the repost if doing so...

I am sending my forms in today, I realize it takes 6+ months. What happens after approved? The stamp(s) are sent to the dealer and then they call you to come pickup the can(s)?

 

[Pat M]

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shep77, wait a month - call and get pending date - mine was just over 6 months (got one last week) from pending date

deal should call when they get it in

 

[varmint slayer]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shep77</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sorry for the repost if doing so...

I am sending my forms in today, I realize it takes 6+ months. What happens after approved? The stamp(s) are sent to the dealer and then they call you to come pickup the can(s)?</div></div>

Pretty much how it goes down. Approved form 4 shows up with stamp and you come down and do a 4473 and away you go.

 

[3DHUSKER]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Varmint Slayer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shep77</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sorry for the repost if doing so...

I am sending my forms in today, I realize it takes 6+ months. What happens after approved? The stamp(s) are sent to the dealer and then they call you to come pickup the can(s)?</div></div>

Pretty much how it goes down. Approved form 4 shows up with stamp and you come down and do a 4473 and away you go. </div></div>

I have never done a 4473 on a can. Approved form shows up and the can is yours.

 

[varmint slayer]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 3DHUSKER</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Varmint Slayer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shep77</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sorry for the repost if doing so...

I am sending my forms in today, I realize it takes 6+ months. What happens after approved? The stamp(s) are sent to the dealer and then they call you to come pickup the can(s)?</div></div>

Pretty much how it goes down. Approved form 4 shows up with stamp and you come down and do a 4473 and away you go. </div></div>
I have never done a 4473 on a can. Approved form shows up and the can is yours.</div></div>

I am no FFL so forgive me if this is wrong but it is my understanding that a suppressor is considered a firearm by the ATF so it should be going in and out of their log book and the only way to get to out of their log book is a 4473. A NICS check is not required unless the item is going to a trust/LLC,Corp or other entity in which case the person picking up the suppressor has not yet been checked out.


Hopefully a dealer can step in here and elaborate as I'm sure that is a very shitty representation of what has to happen lol.


Edit:
Also I went straight through TBAC and when I picked my two up I did a 4473.

 

[Skullcreek]

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30P-1

Form 4 sent in 3-25-12
Check Cashed?
Pending May 25
Corrected Serial Number around week of September 1
Approved 9-27-12
Stamp lost between NFA Branch and USPS
Sent in request for certified copies
Received Certified Copies 11-21-12

Result of the royal mess, a satisfied TBAC customer. The accuracy and repeatability on my Collier Rifles 308 meets my high expectations.
Thanks to TBAC and the members here who led me to my purchase. Your advice (covertly acquired) was invaluable.

I sure would like my damn stamp!

 

[3DHUSKER]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Varmint Slayer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 3DHUSKER</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Varmint Slayer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shep77</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sorry for the repost if doing so...

I am sending my forms in today, I realize it takes 6+ months. What happens after approved? The stamp(s) are sent to the dealer and then they call you to come pickup the can(s)?</div></div>

Pretty much how it goes down. Approved form 4 shows up with stamp and you come down and do a 4473 and away you go. </div></div>
I have never done a 4473 on a can. Approved form shows up and the can is yours.</div></div>

I am no FFL so forgive me if this is wrong but it is my understanding that a suppressor is considered a firearm by the ATF so it should be going in and out of their log book and the only way to get to out of their log book is a 4473. A NICS check is not required unless the item is going to a trust/LLC,Corp or other entity in which case the person picking up the suppressor has not yet been checked out.


Hopefully a dealer can step in here and elaborate as I'm sure that is a very shitty representation of what has to happen lol.


Edit:
Also I went straight through TBAC and when I picked my two up I did a 4473. </div></div>

Interesting. Just asked my new dealer and he said he does but no call in also. Looks as if I will be doing some on my new additions. Sorry about that looks like my old dealer is going to get an ass kicking come audit time.

 

[Smith44699]

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I have received 6 stamps via trust. From two different dealers. I have filled out the forms 4473 on them all and never had any of them called in on the instant check. From my understanding is the trust owns the stamps. Hope this helps. But hell I could be in the wrong also. Lol. All 6 were cans

 

[Explorer]

Re: Form 4 wait time

1. NFA Item: SBR lower
2. Form Type: Form 1
3. Transferee Type: Trust
4. Forms Sent: 06/01/12
5. Check Cashed: unk
6. Pending Date:07/5/12
7. Approved Date: waiting
8. Forms Received: waiting
9. Examiner: unk (KY)

Last week received the forms back for clarifications; hopefully stamp will be here in time for Christmas!

 

[L3IRQ]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Smith44699</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have received 6 stamps via trust. From two different dealers. I have filled out the forms 4473 on them all and never had any of them called in on the instant check. From my understanding is the trust owns the stamps. Hope this helps. But hell I could be in the wrong also. Lol. All 6 were cans </div></div>

I used to never fill out the 4473 at the shop where I do my transfers but on the last one they had me do it, however they didn't run the check, not sure if they changed a rule or something perhaps? The other cans I all bought prior to last year.

 

[koz]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wfjames22</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: koz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Glad to finally see a Pickles approval. Seems like he's running slow right now. I've got one a few days behind you. </div></div>

You sure you're waiting on Pickles? My last two were signed by Sara Jones and I'm in TN as well. They were approved 9/14/12. </div></div>

Yep it was Pickles. Pending 6/13, Approved 11/15.

 

[THE MGD]

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Got everthing straightened out
All my forms are now accountable and waiting

TX, Trust
2 cans pending 07/06/12 went re-pending 11/26/12
Self resolved problem?
Examiner: Sara Jones
Agent on phone says "your in the 'final stage', I estimate 30 more days"

 

[L3IRQ]

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Sent out my forms in mid may, can't remember the exact date. Just got the paperwork kicked back because ATF wanted me to remove the last 2 letters on a model name, so hopefully 2 weeks or so and I'll have the can back!

 

[verdugo60]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: koz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wfjames22</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: koz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Glad to finally see a Pickles approval. Seems like he's running slow right now. I've got one a few days behind you. </div></div>

You sure you're waiting on Pickles? My last two were signed by Sara Jones and I'm in TN as well. They were approved 9/14/12. </div></div>

Yep it was Pickles. Pending 6/13, Approved 11/15. </div></div>

Damn, I might not make Christmas with the Thanksgiving break factored in then. Went pending July 17.

 

[lazy21]

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WTF!!!!!!!! is pending approval? I have two cans that went pending 7/9, now it shows 11/29 Pending approval.

 

[THE MGD]

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last time I called and spoke with atf agent deameon, he told me this is the final stage where its waiting for final approval. He estimated me at 30 days.
I gather (and these are my guesses), that the assistant has checked the form and put it on the examiners approval desk. I also think approval will be less than 30 days but they are factoring for gathering up a new pile and mailing them out.
Sounds like youre almost there, good luck

 

[dddoo7]

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I was told that mine went to the examiners desk October 24th and I am sill waiting. I wouldn't hold your breath on it being less than 30 days. Mine was pending June 14th.

 

[dddoo7]

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My wife and I started a game. When we find out she is pregnant, I go buy a suppressor and we see which one come first.

 

[Reid Rothchild]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ddd oo7</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My wife and I started a game. When we find out she is pregnant, I go buy a suppressor and we see which one come first. </div></div>
How many kids do you have? 5? 10? Lol

 

[tsavo303]

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F%^&&*, just got it kicked back from jun 20th check cashing

 

[dddoo7]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Reid Rothchild</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ddd oo7</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My wife and I started a game. When we find out she is pregnant, I go buy a suppressor and we see which one come first. </div></div>
How many kids do you have? 5? 10? Lol </div></div>

Just one and one on the way-- not gonna have 5 or 10 kids so I might have to get 2-3 suppressors per kid.

 

[Enough Said]

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Look...

I need you guys ahead of me to start getting cans in so I can get mine!

 

[K_4c]

Re: Form 4 wait time

check cashed: June 5th
Pending:June 22nd
Problem notice:November 6th
Approved:November 24th (on my B-day....)
Picking up my TBAC 30-BA today (December 2nd)

That was a long wait.... but I'm sure it'll be worth it.

 

[uracowman]

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Are there any people in Texas who have received their stamp this week? I have a July 19th pending item that I'm waiting on, but the recent nfatracker approvals have some scattered data for the state of Texas.

 

[Stormshadow]

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Form 4 Individual
Gemtech Quicksand
Mailed 05/23/12
Check cashed 05/30/12
Pending 06/19/12
Approved 11/21/12
Received 12/03/12
Examiner: Christina Farris

Took 1 month longer than a transfer from the start of the year.

 

[THE MGD]

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<span style="font-size: 11pt"> TRUST / FORM 4s / TEXAS
</span>
<span style="font-weight: bold"> YHM PHANTOM 30 CAL </span>
<span style="font-size: 8pt"> </span> Purchased: 03/03/12
PAPERWORK ERROR FORMS SENT BACK (05/12)
EXAMINER: SARA JONES
Pending: 07/06/12
(called 11/26/12) Status: problem, problem resolved. Unable to tell me what problem was
APPROVED: Dec 3 2012

<span style="font-size: 11pt"> </span> <span style="font-weight: bold">SILENCERCO 22SPARROW</span>
<span style="font-size: 8pt"> </span> Purchased: 05/18/12
EXAMINER: SARA JONES
Pending: 07/06/12
called 11/26/12 No record found
Dealer fixed problem
APPROVED: DEC 3

<span style="font-style: italic">Waiting for that call from my dealer </span>

 

[jaycoux]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uracowman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are there any people in Texas who have received their stamp this week? I have a July 19th pending item that I'm waiting on, but the recent nfatracker approvals have some scattered data for the state of Texas. </div></div>

Mine went pending on july 20th, no word yet. I think we will be the next batch looking at nfa tracker.

j

 

[ZO6Dave]

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I got a stamp last year and it took 6 months and 5 days for the approval.

 

[fdkay]

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Location: Texas
Check Cashed: 31Jul12
Pending: 09Aug12

 

[johngfoster]

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Still waiting on a 7/3/12 pending date. Nothing yet.

 

[Fatherdeath]

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20120709 pending date still waiting...hoping for the first week in jan

 

[Nebraska123]

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(2) Form 4's on a Trust

Mailed: 6/28/12
Check cashed: 07/3/12
Pending: 07/18/12
Problem Status: (on both) 12/6/12
Approved: 1/9/2013
Received:
Examiner: Lamberger


FML---> Not getting these before flying home next week

 

[Sendero_Man]

Re: Form 4 wait time

1. NFA Item: Suppressor
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transferee Type: Trust
4. Forms Sent: 11/07/12
5. Check Cashed: 11/14/12
6. Pending Date:11/27/12
7. Approved Date:
8. Forms Received:
9. Examiner: Mrs. Snook

Pending-> Approved: ? days
Pending-> Stamp Received: ? days

Was told on 12-10-2012 that I should see a May 2013 completion

 

[dddoo7]

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NFA Item: TBAC 30P-1
Form Type: Form 4
Transfer Type: Individual
Forms Mailed: 05/21/12
Forms Arrived: 05/24/12
Check Cashed: 05/29/12
Pending Date: 06/14/12
Transferred to Examiner?: 10/24/12
Approved Date: 11/30/12
Forms Received: 12/07/12
Examiner: Dana Pickles
State: Tennessee
Dealer: Colonial Armory (Rangewalker71)

Door to door: 200 days (6 months, 9 days)
Pending to approved: 169 days (5 months, 19 days)

 

[lazy21]

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anyone get there 7/9 pending approved? Still nothing on mine(went from pending 7/9 to pending approval 11/29)

 

[pyplynr]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lazy21</div><div class="ubbcode-body">anyone get there 7/9 pending approved? Still nothing on mine(went from pending 7/9 to pending approval 11/29)</div></div>

My form 1 went pending 7/6/12. Haven't heard or seen anything either.

 

[D_Lamz]

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I got "pending signature" how long I do have left usually?

 

[johngfoster]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pyplynr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lazy21</div><div class="ubbcode-body">anyone get there 7/9 pending approved? Still nothing on mine(went from pending 7/9 to pending approval 11/29)</div></div>

My form 1 went pending 7/6/12. Haven't heard or seen anything either. </div></div>

My form 4 is still pending as of 7/3/12.