FRT's - What is good? And what is Rare Breeds real website?

[Green461]

I been researching the FRT triggers tonight, seeing they are legal again. I see there is a "super safety".... but I dont want anything plastic and I am not interested in a push/pull safety option. kicking around the idea of buying an FRT but has to be 3 position, safe, normal firing, and then forced reset. Who makes the best solid one with nice trigger pull and reliable?
Researching i found Rare Breed..... but I found several websites for Rare Breed... and posts on redit saying some are fake scammers.
Anyone know which one is real? Cant find them on facebook either.

I think this one may be real - .rarebreedtriggerus.com

Then there is this - rarebreedtrigger.org

and this - rarebreedtriggers.com

and - rarebreedtriggersco.com

and - rarebreedtriggerfrt.com

 

[Green461]

Never mind about the fake websites... there is a video on rarebreedtriggers.com explaining the fake ones. Still curious which one is decent.

 

[redbullitt]

The super safety style is a better design I think, especially if done in steel. It's more robust and very simple. No springs to kink and fail etc.

Rare breed does drop their triggers fairly regularly. Best way is to get on notification list and be quick if you go that route.

 

[NHPiper]

The super safety style is a better design I think, especially if done in steel. It's more robust and very simple. No springs to kink and fail etc.

Rare breed does drop their triggers fairly regularly. Best way is to get on notification list and be quick if you go that route.

I thought their website said the injuction is still blocking them?

 

[sheepdog697]

Delta team tactical is fantastic.

 

[sheepdog697]

FRT Triggers 3 Position FRT Trigger with Ambi Safety Selector

www.deltateamtactical.com

 

[sheepdog697]

 

[redbullitt]

No clue about injunctions etc. Seen 2 guys get them in the last couple months after being on rare breed notification list. Saw the triggers and packing slip when they opened em.

Looked legit as far as I could tell, and I don't think they'd gain anything from an elaborate lie haha

Have second hand tell of others getting them the same way.

That said, that little spring that kinked on the older versions always made me leery of them... not a fan of adding a known failure point like that. Maybe it's fixed in later versions, not sure.

 

[Green461]

FRT Triggers 3 Position FRT Trigger with Ambi Safety Selector

www.deltateamtactical.com

I watched Garand Thumbs video thats what got me looking into them. I seen that one also Delta Team Tactical one but it doesnt say who makes it. China knockoff? And wasnt sure how nice of a trigger it is, video is sponsored so hard to know if its "so good". It doesnt list anything about the trigger, no pound pull listed. The Rare Breed one has a few different models... but they are not selling them at the moment according to the real website. If would be great if someone makes a nice trigger that also has the forced reset 3rd position... nicer than mil spec.

 

[Green461]

Seen 2 guys get them in the last couple months after being on rare breed notification list.

Where is this notification list? There is nothing on their website.

 

[sheepdog697]

I watched Garand Thumbs video thats what got me looking into them. I seen that one also Delta Team Tactical one but it doesnt say who makes it. China knockoff? And wasnt sure how nice of a trigger it is, video is sponsored so hard to know if its "so good". It doesnt list anything about the trigger, no pound pull listed. The Rare Breed one has a few different models... but they are not selling them at the moment according to the real website. If would be great if someone makes a nice trigger that also has the forced reset 3rd position... nicer than mil spec.

Their triggers are made in UTAH. It's the only 3 position "forced reset" trigger i am aware of. I've had a ratebreed, a WOT, and now I've sold those and have a delta team tactical. It's by far the best, the almost run better too. Hard to explain. The option to go back.to semi is way made me switch.

 

[NHPiper]

I just picked up a Dairyland Defense 3 position FRT. The trigger looks like it is MIM metal in a nicer casing than what you would see on something like a CMC drop in.

I tried it in an AR15, after using a super safety where you can really pinch the trigger to the rear and ride the reset forward, and found that it bound up the BCG.

However, I dropped it into my MCX Virtus 300BLK 6.75" and it ran like a champ through several magazines. I installed a trip into the Virtus from Midnight Machine. It requires a small bit of sanding to not contact the BCG, but took two seconds to fix.

I'm curious how long the reliability will be on this. I am going to leave it in the MCX and almost exclusively run subs.

 

[sheepdog697]

I just picked up a Dairyland Defense 3 position FRT. The trigger looks like it is MIM metal in a nicer casing than what you would see on something like a CMC drop in.

I tried it in an AR15, after using a super safety where you can really pinch the trigger to the rear and ride the reset forward, and found that it bound up the BCG.

However, I dropped it into my MCX Virtus 300BLK 6.75" and it ran like a champ through several magazines. I installed a trip into the Virtus from Midnight Machine. It requires a small bit of sanding to not contact the BCG, but took two seconds to fix.

I'm curious how long the reliability will be on this. I am going to leave it in the MCX and almost exclusively run subs.

Reliability wise the DTT we have ran in lowers with the shrike belt fed upper and have had no issues to date. Probably 3k rounds through it.

Ive never heard of dairyland, what did you pay for that? I think I paid 499 for the DTT

 

[NHPiper]

Reliability wise the DTT we have ran in lowers with the shrike belt fed upper and have had no issues to date. Probably 3k rounds through it.

Ive never heard of dairyland, what did you pay for that? I think I paid 499 for the DTT

About $100 cheaper via Dairyland. It may be the same trigger in a different housing.

I am finding that the FRTs are somewhat sensitive to how hard you pull the trigger, which wasn't my experience with the Super Safety. If I pull too hard and try to keep the trigger engaged to the rear like I would with a truer full auto, I can mess up the cycling rate. Are you having the same thing happen?

https://dairylanddefense.com/product/dairyland-defender-forced-reset-trigger/

Looks like they dropped the price. I paid $415 a few weeks ago.

Also, their safety lever on the ambi side is too large. I need to find a better 3 position safety to drop in. It bites into my fire control hand.

 

[Green461]

I just picked up a Dairyland Defense 3 position FRT. The trigger looks like it is MIM metal in a nicer casing than what you would see on something like a CMC drop in.

I tried it in an AR15, after using a super safety where you can really pinch the trigger to the rear and ride the reset forward, and found that it bound up the BCG.

However, I dropped it into my MCX Virtus 300BLK 6.75" and it ran like a champ through several magazines. I installed a trip into the Virtus from Midnight Machine. It requires a small bit of sanding to not contact the BCG, but took two seconds to fix.

I'm curious how long the reliability will be on this. I am going to leave it in the MCX and almost exclusively run subs.

How is the trigger pull on that Dairyland FRT? Mil spec or lighter?

 

[Green461]

I sent Dairyland a message on their site and the owner called me about half hour ago. I told him im local and asked if they had a walk in store. He said he has sold about 700 hundred of these triggers and only about 14 have come back and hes replaced them, but said he thinks it was more user error but sent them new ones anyway. Also said there is a set screw in back for fine tuning because BCG machining can vary a few thousandths, coatings, etc... He told me the trigger pull but I spaced out and forgot.... think it was 3.5lbs and he did say its like a Geissele.. which now i think about it and realize Geissele makes a bunch of different ones..

 

[NHPiper]

I sent Dairyland a message on their site and the owner called me about half hour ago. I told him im local and asked if they had a walk in store. He said he has sold about 700 hundred of these triggers and only about 14 have come back and hes replaced them, but said he thinks it was more user error but sent them new ones anyway. Also said there is a set screw in back for fine tuning because BCG machining can vary a few thousandths, coatings, etc... He told me the trigger pull but I spaced out and forgot.... think it was 3.5lbs and he did say its like a Geissele.. which now i think about it and realize Geissele makes a bunch of different ones..

He has been super responsive via phone. I sent him an email today with questions and got a call 5 minutes later. Not the first time he has done that. Super impressive!

I wouldn't say it feels like a Geissele, it isn't an SSA-E. But it's not milspec heavy either. Maybe 4-5lbs.