UmmNever heard of "chorizo-ing" a gun, what does that do?
Never shot spicy loads ?
Garmin Xero C1 Pro chronograph
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Never shot spicy loads ?
Yep,I fired my new Seekins PH2 6.5 PRC today. The Hornady 143 eldx box said 2960 for 24 inch barrel. Mine is 24 and running Ultra 7. Ammo was kept 70° in cooler (temp soak at 68° all night previous)
My avg. for 5 rounds was 2798.
Spoke w/ Hornday and the tech told me there is a + or - 60 fps tolerance lot to lot.
Seekins says the barrel will speed up around 40 rnds (which seems early).
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Man those are almost Creedmoor numbers for a 24” with a can - I’d bet that the rifle will speed up substantially after 100 rounds or so. 40 sounds a little optimistic / sporty.
Tried mine out today. So intuitive and easy to use. Told me how slow my (plinking/blasting) hand loads were too 
So I purchased another box of the 143 Eld-x Precision Hunter and it averaged 2889 fps! That’s 90 fps difference lot to lot!
Pretty shocking for “match grade ammo”……So I expect the barrel to pick up more speed as it breaks in.
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So I purchased another box of the 143 Eld-x Precision Hunter and it averaged 2889 fps! That’s 90 fps difference lot to lot!
So I expect the barrel to pick up more speed as it breaks in.
Been looking at this insert from Panda, how "snug" does it fit in the Nanuk? Thanks
Actually yes. I usually run my hand loads. That’s next. I might have suspected that old magnetospeed relic but the recoil was definitely stronger. I remember shooting the first box thinking that the recoil felt like my 6.5 cm.
The good news is that my Garmin Xero is FINALLY en route! Got a screaming deal but had to wait.
With any luck, I have dealt with that @$@&# Magnetospeed strap system for the last freaking time! I am passing that headache onto my best friend….
Reading through this thread is interesting. Users asked for specific changes like a shot total. Then, I watched updates push through those changes in real time. Whomever at Garmin interfacing between the users and developers, thank you. Hardware aside, this is the difference between Garmin and everything else on the market.
You update through the app. Each update takes a couple of minutes. The manual has the instructions. If you don't have the manual, there is a link to it in the app under "Help & Info".
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Xero C1 Owner's Manual - Software Updates
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I have about 2000rd on my garmin and it's been flawless. The setup is insanely easy. Power on, pick velocity range and bullet Weight and set on the bench next to gun...it.just plain works....every single time.
I'll pick up a Garmin but no way I am getting rid of my Magnetospeed. Just plain works and I trust it. Always good to have a back up. Will probably dump that Labradar I took in as a partial trade eventually when the feeding frenzy for Garmins wears off.
I have all 3 now.. they both have years of use. They all work.. I'll give one to a friend and keep one as a spare.
But nothing comes close to this garmin... no strapping on, no aiming, no messing with settings, no wires.. you turn it on, and set it next to your rifle. No aiming or anything. Works every single time.
Today was the first time I utilized the data from my garmin to shoot at distance. 300, 400 and 635yd. Was dead on using the velocity in my kestrel.
Garmin Xero C1 PRO Chronograph — PRSTF
In stock CAPTURE PRECISION. EXECUTE PERFECTION. The most essential data for ballistics calculations is projectile speed. A chronograph is the best tool for the job. Whether you’re handloading for the range or building arrows for the hunt, the Xero C1 Pro chronograph provides the speed data you ne
prstf.com
Buy today and it will ship on 12/28.
Great tip ... just bought mine from there (shows available and in-stock) ... and cancelled my Garmin order that had said it would be shipping in "February". I "HATE" waiting for new toys !!!
We silently opened up some pre-orders again for another shipment coming in
https://cstactical.com/garmin-xero-c1-pro-chronograph/
I was going to buy from them, but they charge tax. I got mine from PRSTF for $599 shipped.
The wonderful thing about Oregon ... no Sales Tax.
That state income tax though
There’s no free lunch.
My Garmin is out for delivery today! Praise the old gods and the new!
I rarely disagree with you Rob but I hate my magnetospeed so much that I gave it away. Hope my best friend doesn’t end up hating me for giving him that abortion. He doesn’t reload and rarely chronos, so it should work fine for him.
Wow ... just got the "Shipped" EMail from Scheel's ... less than 2 hours from order to shipping on this hard to get item.
I'm impressed ... and that doesn't happen often.
I'm impressed ... and that doesn't happen often.
Yup everyone has their own opinions on all the gear we use. I am sure there are things I hate that others like. Never had any issues with the Magnetospeed personally. Been using it for years now and why I trust it. Glad you got a Garmin to replace it and hopefully your buddy doesn't hate you. LOL
Ok now you’re changing the parameters
Garmin Xero C1 PRO Chronograph — PRSTF
In stock CAPTURE PRECISION. EXECUTE PERFECTION. The most essential data for ballistics calculations is projectile speed. A chronograph is the best tool for the job. Whether you’re handloading for the range or building arrows for the hunt, the Xero C1 Pro chronograph provides the speed data you ne
Buy today and it will ship on 12/28.
Thank you! I just ordered from them.
We silently opened up some pre-orders again for another shipment coming in
5 or so left for the shipment on the way!
Does putting all that together require a Building Permit?Not when using a chrono mount.
Does putting all that together require a Building Permit?
Actually once together it stays together and just hooks to the ARCA. Very simple and easy.
The setup does appear to be busy but I suspect you utilized Feng Shui putting it together. cool!!!
cool!!!The setup does appear to be busy but I suspect you utilized Feng Shui putting it together.
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It's really not busy at all. Slides on the ARCA and tighten down. Just bumped up next to the bipod which makes it look like more than it is. Front goes up and down and back to set it up. Takes a minute or two. It's very adjustable. The Wiser Precision crew did a good job making it. Not small and simple like the Garmin but has also been out a lot longer and still works even after the Garmin was introduced. LOL
Bought one yesterday from A&J Sporting Goods. It shipped this morning.
They are good dudes. Great supporters on our PRS prize tables up here in the northwest.
Don't get me wrong ... it's a beautiful rig ... just seems like a lot hanging off the end of the rifle. To each his own ... eh?
That's all it does is hang there. Not a lot of stuff. Just the arca attachment, carbon fiber rod and the Bayonet. Just keeps it from touching the barrel and effecting harmonics. You can set it on there and shoot all day with no effect on the rifle at all. Can use for long and short barrels. Edited to add pic below.
But as you said to each his own.
I have that same set up. It worked very well. But I really like the simplicity of the Garmin.
I also have this setup and it performs very, very well. The one issue I have with it is that when shooting more than one gun at a range, it's a bit of a hassle making adjustments to a different gun that has different barrel and/or different attachments to the muzzle, etc. Because of that one issue, I now also have the Garmin, which is incredibly easy to just turn on, push button a couple times and off I go. However, getting the data to my computer (I record everything on a spreadsheet) is a bit of a hassle with the Garmin and MSv3 is much better in this regard.
Getting the data to the computer is as you say a hassle. First I have to export the csv file from the Xero C1 to my phone. Then send an e-mail with the csv file to my pc. Then convert the csv file to xlsx format. I have written a script to convert the csv file to xlsx format with the formatting I would like to implement, but still it's quite some work. Have tried the *.fit file way of doing it, but it's even worse. You can get the Garmin to connect with bluetooth to your PC. But you can't share data with it. I guess the csv converting is done on the phone. What the Xero C1 should do was creating a csv file on it's HDD. That way you could transfer it with USB cable to your PC.
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