Garmin Xero C1 Pro chronograph

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Had to quote the whole Caboodle to get a meaning how to.
As long as there is no better solution using a batch file will make it easier than not using it. I have created a "custom" batch file that will let you choose the filename of the FIT file that is converted to CSV format and saved. I will include the code used in the file, but for safety it's as a text file. You have to copy the text into a batch file to get it working. I'm still looking for a better solution.

Added a picture of the code as well.

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So, Ben FIT has replied on the Garmin Developer forum. So, now you need to upgrade to the last SDK version.
Link: https://developer.garmin.com/fit/download/
Install V21.133 or a higher.
Create a bat file on your computer. Code:
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Or, download the FITtoCSV.txt and rename it to *.bat
Drag the FIT file and release it over the bat file. Choose a filename and CSV file will be created.

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Jefe's Dope said:

Not sure why it's reformatting my link. I can't click on it once saved. Are you guys able to click the link? Fixed.
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Haoge 140mm Nodal Slide Double Dovetail Focusing Rail Plate with Metal Quick Release Clamp for Camera Panoramic Panorama Close Up Macro Shoot fit Arca Swiss RRS Benro Kirk https://a.co/d/2BQmLqV
 
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Go search this on Amazon

Camera Rail Nodal Slide 150mm Quick Release Plate Clamp Compatible with Arca Swiss Tripod for DSLR Tripod Monopod Ball Head for Panoramic Close-up Photography​


I got the 200mm version as I wanted to make sure it's long enough.
 
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Check out this cheap ass case! No it's not bigger than a Labradar or cost $200 so it's not cool but it's functional for a cheap bastard like myself. LOL An old EO Tech case a buddy gave me years ago, some old foam from an old rifle case and about 10 min with a razor knife. BAM! That just happened! LOL

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021411 said:
Caught a glimpse of it on a YouTubers Gap Grind video. Looks pretty nice. Anyone know more about it?
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I have one and love it. It doesn't give velocity vs distance like some, but it is so small and so easy to use I end up using it almost every time I go to the range so I get more complete data vs conditions. It literally fits in a jacket pocket. Just pull it out, set it near the muzzle, turn on the unit and open the app and go. The app keeps a record of all your shots every time you shoot - no bookkeeping required. Super easy. I haven't checked it for accuracy against my other chronos because from what I have read in the accuracy reviews it is quite accurate. Only thing that would be better is velocity vs distance so you can tune the drag model without shooting multiple distances out to 1,000+, but nothing that does that is as easy to use as far as I know.
 
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I asked about the Garmin so here you go:

The update to the apps (iPhone already out, Android early March) and Xero C1 are as follows.

1) Mass export of the CSV is already live.
2) Cloud sync is live for some users and coming for others.
3) Being able to return to a shot group and add more is a feature coming in a future update (not this one) but is being developed.
 
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Schw15 said:
Possibly looking to grab a garmin. Who makes a cheaper picatinny rail to mount to rifle? Also does the tripod work good enough? I use magnetospeed v3 off barrel mount now
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The tripod does work pretty good but if you wanted it mounted just get a $19 arca attachment on Amazon. No need to spend more. You can get a 150mm or 200mm version. Just search this on Amazon and a few come up.

Camera Rail Nodal Slide 150mm Quick Release Plate Clamp Compatible with Arca​

 
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Rob01 said:
The tripod does work pretty good but if you wanted it mounted just get a $19 arca attachment on Amazon. No need to spend more. You can get a 150mm or 200mm version. Just search this on Amazon and a few come up.

Camera Rail Nodal Slide 150mm Quick Release Plate Clamp Compatible with Arca​

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That would be perfect but it has arca attachment. I have pictanny rail I want to attach it to.
 
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derek1ee said:
Case came out pretty good from the SLS printer.

Tested it with my 22cal air rifle and even with the case fully covering the muzzle size of the chronograph, I don't notice any degradation in sensitivity or accuracy, still need to do some more testing when I can get to the range but it's looking promising.

Made a listing for pre-orders, should start shipping next week.

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Looks very nice. Did you find a cad model of the unit itself or did you measure and draw it yourself? I want to make a slightly different protective case / bumper out of TPU and wish to skip the measuing step if I can :)
 
#2,575
I had a shot string get deleted.

I took two shots, then deleted those shots, then shot 10 more, looked at the data, end session. In history my session saved as 0 shots and the data was gone on both my phone and xero.

I have recently updated to the latest software, not sure how old my version was.

Has anyone experienced this potential glitch? It’s also 100% possible that I did something and it’s all my fault. I will say I’ve probably put 300 strings on it and have had no issues prior this.
 
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Schw15 said:
That would be perfect but it has arca attachment. I have pictanny rail I want to attach it to.
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To my knowledge no one makes a NODAL type rail with a direct to Picatinny clamp.

I was only able to find two options, in my search.

Buy a ARCA NODAL rail and use a Picatinny to ARCA adapter like this:
FANAUE FGP-65 Picatinny Arca-Swiss Compatible Rail Plate
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Or spend more money and buy the Gray Ops CNC Garmin Xero QD Mount and Arm without the clamp. You can then buy a ARMS 17 compatible clamp that fits a Picatinny rail.

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The FANAUE SC-ARC is a good option since it works with both Picatinny and ARCA and does not need an adapter.
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I chose to purchase the Gray Ops CNC mount, arm and the FANAUE ARCA/Picatinny clamp as this gives me the most mounting options.
  • Tripod
  • Direct to Picatinny, no arm
  • Direct to Picatinny, with arm
  • Direct to ARCA, with arm

 
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kriller134 said:
So are these deals for 500 long gone? Where’s the cheapest place to buy one?
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Weren't those just scam sites?

I tried to order one last night but when the $50 in sales tax showed on screen I stopped. I'm extremely unhappy with the state the last couple days and it's inventing of yet another new way to take money from me just recently, so I just couldn't bring my self to do it.
 
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Schw15 said:
That would be perfect but it has arca attachment. I have pictanny rail I want to attach it to.
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Sorry missed that. But as mentioned they make small adapters for picatinny to arca. Would be the cheapest way to convert to use that $19 arca plate.
 
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I appreciate the info. I'm debating on mounting or leaving on tripod. I still have to order one too. The new labradar one looks interesting but they say customer service sucks so garmin seems like the winner. Be nice just to set up and shoot my magnetospeed I gotta mount then check with muzzle and run cords ect.

They say 5-15 from muzzle have you guys seen any effect going farther away? My barrels are 29 to 30 inch then 9 Inch supressor so mounted it will be a long ways away from there recommendations
 
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Schw15 said:
I appreciate the info. I'm debating on mounting or leaving on tripod. I still have to order one too. The new labradar one looks interesting but they say customer service sucks so garmin seems like the winner. Be nice just to set up and shoot my magnetospeed I gotta mount then check with muzzle and run cords ect.

They say 5-15 from muzzle have you guys seen any effect going farther away? My barrels are 29 to 30 inch then 9 Inch supressor so mounted it will be a long ways away from there recommendations
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I don’t think you will have an issue as I used mine with a 28” barrel and a 3” brake and no problem.

Also Impact Data Books still has them in stock for $599.

 
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Schw15 said:
That would be perfect but it has arca attachment. I have pictanny rail I want to attach it to.
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You could also buy this Atlas ARMS 17s adapter:
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shop.accu-shot.com

BT56 LD: ¼-20 Adapter - B&T Industries

The BT56 LD 1/4-20 Adapter is a mounting solution to interface between a Tripod or similar supporting device (shooting/walking/camera stick type monopod) with a standard ¼-20 threaded stud and a firearm. Once the BT56 is installed on your supporting device using the ¼-20 threaded hole found on...
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It has a 1/4-20 hole in the middle.

Attach a 17s pic clamp to it like the ADM or RRS SC-ARC.

Then buy an Arca rail like this usa-made one:
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It has two 1/4-20 screws and comes in different lengths and thicknesses. Attach one end to the Atlas adapter and the other to your Garmin.

I’ve used that place before and they make good products. He’ll even make custom stuff for a fee, I believe.

If you’re worried about stuff spinning on the plate, he sells these too, with adjustable anti-spin bars. I’m sure he’d sell an additional anti-spin bar.
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https://www.hejnarphotostore.com/product-p/m1-600.htm.

Kirk Photo is another very good usa-made Arca plate manufacturer. Their stuff is more refined, more like RRS (and sometimes superior). Here’s their longest Arca plate with adjustable anti-spin bars. Again, I bet they’d sell you an additional bar.
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There’s a 1/4-20 hole at the end, next to the push QD sling attachment. You could be the coolest guy at the range with your QD Garmin slung around your neck (not).

Their anti-spin bar is interesting because it is reversible and has two angles, 90° and 30°. Sometimes the 30° works best on something curved. I own a Kirk like this for a lens and it works great.
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kirkphoto.com

Universal multi use lens plate 6.25

KES universal quick release lens plate
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carbonbased said:
Kirk Photo is another very good usa-made Arca plate manufacturer. Their stuff is more refined, more like RRS (and sometimes superior). Here’s their longest Arca plate with adjustable anti-spin bars. Again, I bet they’d sell you an additional bar.
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Their anti-spin bar is interesting because it is reversible and has two angles, 90° and 30°. Sometimes the 30° works best on something curved. I own a Kirk for a lens and it works great.
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Replacement Lip for KLP plates

Replacement lip for KLP plates
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Ichi said:
The FANAUE SC-ARC is a good option since it works with both Picatinny and ARCA and does not need an adapter.
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They didn’t even bother to change the infringing product’s name.

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SC-ARC Bipod Clamp

Experience RRS's Bipod Clamps. Engineered for reliability and quick adjustments, they offer a secure and stable connection for your outdoor equipment.
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Schw15 said:
I appreciate the info. I'm debating on mounting or leaving on tripod. I still have to order one too. The new labradar one looks interesting but they say customer service sucks so garmin seems like the winner. Be nice just to set up and shoot my magnetospeed I gotta mount then check with muzzle and run cords ect.

They say 5-15 from muzzle have you guys seen any effect going farther away? My barrels are 29 to 30 inch then 9 Inch supressor so mounted it will be a long ways away from there recommendations
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Knowing how RADARs work. It could effect the accuracy of the "MV" reading. This is because chronographs do not measure velocity at the muzzle. But their are calculations and systems to back track the velocity to the muzzle. I would assume the placement helps pick up the shot better, and helps calibrate the output number to an actual MV instead of measured velocity at X distance.
 
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I attached a Picatinny rail on the M-Lock handguard of the rifle. Then mounted the Garmin on the rail with the Gray-Ops adapter. I think this is a better option then putting it on the bottom of the rifle as I can read it easier on its side than upside down.

To protect the Garmin, I used the Gray-Ops cover and didn't have any trouble with obtaining any readings.

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JustSendit said:
I had a shot string get deleted.

I took two shots, then deleted those shots, then shot 10 more, looked at the data, end session. In history my session saved as 0 shots and the data was gone on both my phone and xero.

I have recently updated to the latest software, not sure how old my version was.

Has anyone experienced this potential glitch? It’s also 100% possible that I did something and it’s all my fault. I will say I’ve probably put 300 strings on it and have had no issues prior this.
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Had the same thing happen yesterday, was trying several different brands of 22 ammo through my buddies 22. Shot a 50 shot string hit the back button to end session and it went blank. Couldn’t get it to go to any screen. Powered it off and back on and the string was gone. Shot several strings after that and several today with my 6 GT today and hasn’t happened since .
 
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JR1200W3 said:
🤣 You know I'm just teasing.

But seriously, the Xero uses a calculation to determine what the MV is. It doesn't measure the velocity at the muzzle, so it's Garmin's best prediction. All chronographs do this. And I'm sure you know that so Im not trying skool you or anything. This is why no type/ model of chronograph will give the same MV for the same shot. They aren't absolute velocities; they're just each model's/ brands best guess. So it matters more that you place the Xero at roughly the same place in relation to the muzzle than it does precisely at the muzzle. You're just looking for consistency and have to understand this is Garmin's version of the speed while a Labrador and a MS will give slightly different answers.

Again, not trying to preach. Just trying to say nicely not to overthink it.
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No I was mis thinking when I saw the 5-15 inches for some odd reason I was thinking 5 Inches to side and 15 back from muzzle. But that makes it even better I guess a dumb moment haha
 
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carbonbased said:
RRS has a patent, I believe.
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That makes it more interesting, however it doesn't mean much.

The patent office also issues contemporary patents for nothing more than forks. Which is precisely why I used that example earlier.

They are supposed to filter through them for general validity, but the issuance of one is never a statement that the patent is actually valid or defensible. 50% of fork patents get issued today, the other half are rejected for prior art.

If you get a patent, someone is infringing, then you have to adjudicated it and that is where RRS will fail due to it being obvious at the very least, it may also be defective in other ways.
 
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Wall_Element said:
That makes it more interesting, however it doesn't mean much.

The patent office also issues contemporary patents for nothing more than forks. Which is precisely why I used that example earlier.

They are supposed to filter through them for general validity, but the issuance of one is never a statement that the patent is actually valid or defensible. 50% of fork patents get issued today, the other half are rejected for prior art.

If you get a patent, someone is infringing, then you have to adjudicated it and that is where RRS will fail due to it being obvious at the very least, it may also be defective in other ways.
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You’re a cheap-ass, aren’t cha?
 
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Hey all, I created some precision CNC cut screen protectors for myself for the Garmin of heavy duty TPU, because it's already rugged and I didn't like current market solutions.

I ended up offering these to the community here to solve a problem, but just as a hobby essentially. I'm going to stop making them in 3 weeks as demand is tapering.

If anyone still wants one before I stop making them, check out my thread in PX !
 
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