Gay wedding

[Ronws]

Traditional Christian marriage was ruined long before gay marriage came along. It was ruined as soon as God was removed from the bond between the bride and groom and when it stopped being a lifetime commitment. God's involvement was removed and replaced with prenuptial agreements, divorce lawyers, child care payments, alimony payments, family courts, custody battles, etc. I'm not here condoning gay marriage, but rather just pointing out it's ridiculous to claim that gays ruined traditional marriage.

I would have to say that you should state your biases. You were until recently, the friendliest faggot, by your own description. So, it is totally within reason to expect that you would come to the defense of gay marriage.

"I am an asshole, asshole, asshole...."

I have had friends who were gay (not the ceiling hanger, mind you.) I also have not been a "religious" person, regardless of my acknowledging and thanking God for the good things in my life. I can say God bless you and then say something profane in the next breath. I have been a blasphemer. However, god is stronger than that. My sins are more to do with the grief and anguish I have caused others. The disappointment I have been to my mother. (Long story for a different day.) So, if I ever say, "I have been called worse by people closer to me than you," you (in general) will have some context.

I think you are right in that marriage has suffered as a result of these modern actions and often it is about sinful behavior of one person or another.

Marriage used to be about teamwork. My wife's parents were married in 1947, a few years after he came back from WWII. They built a house. My wife was born in 1955. Her younger brother was born in 1958. They were married until death did they part. FIL passed away in 2014, MIL passed away in 2022, at the age of 95. Her family lives to be older than dirt.

And that is how I think marriage should work. My mother was not so lucky. So, I had 3 step-fathers. After the last one, she swore off men. No, not being lesbian. She just dove deeper into her faith as a born-again christian. And I had been to some of those churches with her.

When I was younger, my grandmother and step-grandfather had us baptized as mormons and I was ordained as an aaronic priest when I was 14.

My first wife passed away in 1992. My second and current wife and I met Dec 19, 1993 and we were married in April of 2000. And are still together. I love her like crazy and it will not stop. I am with her until the very last breath.

What's at issue for the OP is the need to vent. His expression of faith is such that he cannot attend the wedding because the couple is homosexual. And I think that is okay. I could say it's okay if he tells them that is why. No need to be disrespectful or insulting. Say I cannot go because I cannot celebrate this and reconcile with my faith in God.

Give the problem to God. No need to justify the faithful decision. God made the rule, let Him deal with it, that's His job.

 

[geek65]

Traditional Christian marriage was ruined long before gay marriage came along. It was ruined as soon as God was removed from the bond between the bride and groom and when it stopped being a lifetime commitment. God's involvement was removed and replaced with prenuptial agreements, divorce lawyers, child care payments, alimony payments, family courts, custody battles, etc. I'm not here condoning gay marriage, but rather just pointing out it's ridiculous to claim that gays ruined traditional marriage.

I am an atheist (always have been even as a child), what relevance would being married in the eyes of god mean to me - absolutely nothing. I married my wife in a non-religious ceremony not in a church. You may ask why I got married (valid question), my wife wanted to get married so I did it for her and our child but also to confirm commitment (we will have been together 32 years this year [married 13 years]). I know people who have been married in a church via a religious ceremony and ended up being divorced after a few years, what difference did the commitment and religion make for them (and many others) - none!

As an aside, after what has happened with child abuse by religion all over the world, I don't hold any religion as a shining example of being a good person. It's not about which faith you follow, it's about being a good person.

 

[232593]

Meanwhile in Russia

Russia fines party-goers for ‘looking too gay’

Two detainees fined 50,000 roubles (£350) for ‘trying to arouse interest in non-traditional sexual relations’

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Maser]

I would have to say that you should state your biases. You were until recently, the friendliest faggot, by your own description. So, it is totally within reason to expect that you would come to the defense of gay marriage.

"I am an asshole, asshole, asshole...."

I have had friends who were gay (not the ceiling hanger, mind you.) I also have not been a "religious" person, regardless of my acknowledging and thanking God for the good things in my life. I can say God bless you and then say something profane in the next breath. I have been a blasphemer. However, god is stronger than that. My sins are more to do with the grief and anguish I have caused others. The disappointment I have been to my mother. (Long story for a different day.) So, if I ever say, "I have been called worse by people closer to me than you," you (in general) will have some context.

I think you are right in that marriage has suffered as a result of these modern actions and often it is about sinful behavior of one person or another.

Marriage used to be about teamwork. My wife's parents were married in 1947, a few years after he came back from WWII. They built a house. My wife was born in 1955. Her younger brother was born in 1958. They were married until death did they part. FIL passed away in 2014, MIL passed away in 2022, at the age of 95. Her family lives to be older than dirt.

And that is how I think marriage should work. My mother was not so lucky. So, I had 3 step-fathers. After the last one, she swore off men. No, not being lesbian. She just dove deeper into her faith as a born-again christian. And I had been to some of those churches with her.

When I was younger, my grandmother and step-grandfather had us baptized as mormons and I was ordained as an aaronic priest when I was 14.

My first wife passed away in 1992. My second and current wife and I met Dec 19, 1993 and we were married in April of 2000. And are still together. I love her like crazy and it will not stop. I am with her until the very last breath.

What's at issue for the OP is the need to vent. His expression of faith is such that he cannot attend the wedding because the couple is homosexual. And I think that is okay. I could say it's okay if he tells them that is why. No need to be disrespectful or insulting. Say I cannot go because I cannot celebrate this and reconcile with my faith in God.

Give the problem to God. No need to justify the faithful decision. God made the rule, let Him deal with it, that's His job.

First off, the "Friendliest Faggot" moniker I was using had nothing to do with my sexuality (yeah, I am straight believe it or not). It was a parody of Milo Yiannopoulos' "Dangerous Faggot" moniker. Second, I'm not the one who removed it. I imagine the staff was getting complaints about it so one day I logged in and see it was changed back to the generic title so I came up with a more fitting one.

I am very much not a fan of turning Christianity into a contest because it is not a competition, it's a path to being a good person and living a good life and following values that have benefited society for ages. I myself have a best friend who is openly gay and is married, but they didn't do it anywhere near a church. Funny thing is if you hung out with them both and you didn't already know they were gay and married, you would never be able to tell. I also have a cousin who was essentially made into a tranny by his single mother at the age of like 8 or 9. I have literally never met the kid and will never have contact with his mother ever again due to her blatant child neglect. I only bring those two subjects up to show that not only do we all live in sin, but we are surrounded by sin as well. God gave us the freewill to decide for ourselves how we deal with the sins around us. The OP of this thread used his freewill and chose not to participate in a sinful wedding. I know it's a hard decision to make when it's friends and family, but at the end of the day, we follow God's teachings to the best of our ability and we don't need any extra sin around us in our already sinful lives.

 

[Ronws]

First off, the "Friendliest Faggot" moniker I was using had nothing to do with my sexuality (yeah, I am straight believe it or not). It was a parody of Milo Yiannopoulos' "Dangerous Faggot" moniker. Second, I'm not the one who removed it. I imagine the staff was getting complaints about it so one day I logged in and see it was changed back to the generic title so I came up with a more fitting one.

I am very much not a fan of turning Christianity into a contest because it is not a competition, it's a path to being a good person and living a good life and following values that have benefited society for ages. I myself have a best friend who is openly gay and is married, but they didn't do it anywhere near a church. Funny thing is if you hung out with them both and you didn't already know they were gay and married, you would never be able to tell. I also have a cousin who was essentially made into a tranny by his single mother at the age of like 8 or 9. I have literally never met the kid and will never have contact with his mother ever again due to her blatant child neglect. I only bring those two subjects up to show that not only do we all live in sin, but we are surrounded by sin as well. God gave us the freewill to decide for ourselves how we deal with the sins around us. The OP of this thread used his freewill and chose not to participate in a sinful wedding. I know it's a hard decision to make when it's friends and family, but at the end of the day, we follow God's teachings to the best of our ability and we don't need any extra sin around us in our already sinful lives.

Excellent reply. Friendliest faggot was supposed to be funny but my delivery may have failed. I disagree on humans deciding what to do about sins against God's rules. That's a recipe for disaster because humans are sinful and prone to FUBAR everything. Such is the danger of free will.

I would have gone to the wedding. As I said before, let God handle the problems.

Edited to add: weddings have food that someone else paid for.

I have had a friend who was born male and lived as a woman. Extremely smart, spoke seven languages, taught at the unversity level and had some background in government work as a translator.

So, humans deciding what to do about sins against God? Not my job. And yes, I have known gay people who were decent people and would be horrified by some of the shenanigans we see in the media today.

 

[232593]

First off, the "Friendliest Faggot" moniker I was using had nothing to do with my sexuality (yeah, I am straight believe it or not). It was a parody of Milo Yiannopoulos' "Dangerous Faggot" moniker. Second, I'm not the one who removed it. I imagine the staff was getting complaints about it so one day I logged in and see it was changed back to the generic title so I came up with a more fitting one.

I am very much not a fan of turning Christianity into a contest because it is not a competition, it's a path to being a good person and living a good life and following values that have benefited society for ages. I myself have a best friend who is openly gay and is married, but they didn't do it anywhere near a church. Funny thing is if you hung out with them both and you didn't already know they were gay and married, you would never be able to tell. I also have a cousin who was essentially made into a tranny by his single mother at the age of like 8 or 9. I have literally never met the kid and will never have contact with his mother ever again due to her blatant child neglect. I only bring those two subjects up to show that not only do we all live in sin, but we are surrounded by sin as well. God gave us the freewill to decide for ourselves how we deal with the sins around us. The OP of this thread used his freewill and chose not to participate in a sinful wedding. I know it's a hard decision to make when it's friends and family, but at the end of the day, we follow God's teachings to the best of our ability and we don't need any extra sin around us in our already sinful lives.

Your “friendliest faggot” moniker was hilarious. Shit had me laughing so hard first time I saw it.

You really think the mods deleted it? Maybe over on LRH or other fuddish forums but I can’t see them doing that here. See my moniker for more on that.

 

[lonegunman762x51]

It was said earlier that Mary of Magdalene was a prostitute.
This was an interesting read I had a few decades ago.
"Holy Blood, Holy Grail."

Amazon.com : holy blood holy grail book

And they published a follow-up entitled "Messianic Legacy."

Long story short, Jesus faked his own death to get out of trouble and his family moved to Gaul (southern France) and married into the Merovingian family. Essentially, today, outside of Paris, there is a living descendant of Jesus of Nazareth (House of David,) heir to the throne of Jerusalem.

In the story of the marriage at Caanan, Jesus' mother tells him to refresh the wine, which is running low. He says to her to have a servant do it.

Well, that means they had money in order to have servants. Second, and importantly, in hebraic tradition at a wedding and reception, it is the groom's responsibility to get the refreshments. Ergo, this was the wedding of Jesus. The closest woman to him was Mary of Magdalene. There is no record of her being a prostitute. She was from a good family and would not need to resort to that.

Anyway, it was a theory based on the powers of secret societies such as the Knights Templar dating back to a primal society, the Priori de Sion. They were located not too far from Jerusalem and dating to about 200 years AD.

There, that should be enough feces to impact the rotary air recirculating device.

Mary of Magdalene was a prostitute who wandered around with 13 men doing God's work. Really? I bet she fucked and sucked those guys dry every night.

Either that or it was the biggest collection of Incel losers until the year 2024. Why would you be blue balling your way around Israel when ass as two steps away?

 

[Maser]

Excellent reply. Friendliest faggot was supposed to be funny but my delivery may have failed. I disagree on humans deciding what to do about sins against God's rules. That's a recipe for disaster because humans are sinful and prone to FUBAR everything. Such is the danger of free will.

I would have gone to the wedding. As I said before, let God handle the problems.

Edited to add: weddings have food that someone else paid for.

I have had a friend who was born male and lived as a woman. Extremely smart, spoke seven languages, taught at the unversity level and had some background in government work as a translator.

So, humans deciding what to do about sins against God? Not my job. And yes, I have known gay people who were decent people and would be horrified by some of the shenanigans we see in the media today.

I guess I worded it badly, but when I said about having the freewill to decide what to do about sins around us, I was not meaning to do God's work, I was meaning we have the freewill to decide whether we distance ourselves from sin or associate with it. Sadly, we live in a society where if we decide to distance ourselves from it, we are labeled as bigots and homophobes. We are suppose to have the freedom of religion and forcing us to go against our religion is against said freedom. If we forced Muslims to eat pork or forced Jews to stop doing that stupid thing with lights turned on or off, we'd never hear the end of it.

 

[DOA]

Mary of Magdalene was a prostitute who wandered around with 13 men doing God's work. Really? I bet she fucked and sucked those guys dry every night.

Sounds more like your Mom.

 

[232593]

Uh oh, this thread has turned into a Yo Mamma fight.

 

[lonegunman762x51]

Sounds more like your Mom.

Not really. You on the other hand, sound like a guy who sucks dicks in truck stop bathrooms. Lots of dicks.

 

[Ronws]

Uh oh, this thread has turned into a Yo Mamma fight.

Better than a Yo Yo Ma fight.

 

[232593]

Better than a Yo Yo Ma fight.

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[Pharmseller]

Sounds more like your Mom.

I don’t know either of you guys, but that’s funny as hell.




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