Maggie’s Going unicorn hunting:

Remember, I said unicorn.

I don't get it either but there it is.

Most crazy people don't have stable personal relationships but her group seems tight.

It could be a kid thing but she doesn't give off any mom vibe at all.

I know a lot of pretty cool women. Their politics usually are not great due to California but personality and interests attractive as well as their looks. The thing is they are either taken, playing for the other team or politically too far gone so that group is out.

It is surprising to see such an attractive woman alone and there might be some unseen issue but I'm not going to be looking too hard for one.
Are you near a military base? Don't be a Jody.
 
I sure as hell wasnt looking. I had written down my plans about what I was gonna do being divorced. Had nothing to do with hanging around women except my daughter.
I asked a friend how she dealt with her kids being gone for the weekend to the other parents.
My ex was not very involved in child raising and I had been a full-time parent for a few years. Had no idea how much my kid being gone sometimes would suck.

We chatted. Now Im fixin to marry her.
She fits the bill for MK20 too.
Christian, smart, kind, giving, an amazing mother, tough as hell (raising 2 kids alone, one with rocking ADHD), wise with $, and smokin hot.
That last one effects me more than when I was 17......
She isnt perfect and no one is. Im a very rare and lucky case.

Good luck boys.
 
I'm not familiar with the Jody term.

There is a little bit of military around here, the remnants of Moffet field and the Palo Alto VA, recruiting centers and maybe a few at the Rocketdyne facility, who knows what else but it's certainly not a military town.

I just looked up Jody, nope, not me. I don't mess with women that are spoken for. That's why my dating pool does not include the women I know who are married or dating other men.

Also, the cost of living is so high here that I don't think a military man would leave a wife here unless she had a damn good career herself.
 
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I had to go overseas to find mine. Unfortunately, I was a psycho-magnet here.

In the mid 90s I almost got married. She said she had been married once before but I found out two weeks prior to our wedding she had been married twice...

At the same time...

While dating me...

And was still married to both...

Through a LOT of trial and error I have found the eastern European girls have matched up best with what I wanted out of a woman. My wife is a hottie, despises leftists and "feminism", is intelligent, trained as an opera singer (but never performed professionally), and and is an awesome mom to our two sons.

But you gotta look.
 

I had to go overseas to find mine. Unfortunately, I was a psycho-magnet here.

LOL sounds as bad as me.

Put me in a room with 10 woman of similar levels of attractiveness, 9 " normal " ( what ever the hell that is ), and 1 soul sucking psycho. I'll find the psycho, she is the one I am attracted to .
 
In regards to out of my league, I have a pretty high opinion of myself. Most women do worse than me. I have an awful example of that actually but it's too fucked up to mention here.

Any way, as awesome as I am, she has more options. Heck, friend #2 with the great personality (I assume) has plenty of options.

For me, the women I'm attracted to are overwhelmingly unavailable and those who are available have options. A lot of those options are guys that will tell them whatever they want to hear, they've got a $200,000 a year programming job at Facebook or they are some sort of pretty boy.

I make less than $200,000 a year. I won't blow smoke up her ass. I'm not terribly pretty.

Beyond that I've done a lot of stuff in half a lifetime that most people wouldn't get to in five. It's probably not interesting to the woman who likes pretty boys or being lied to.

That's not me beating myself up, that's me describing the challenge I face.

I don't seem to attract psychos, often times after rejecting my advances I'll hear that a woman I'm attracted to is dating a guy who is unemployed, a criminal, some sort of emo SJW type or a combination.

I don't think I can chalk that up to poor taste on my part unless I'm somehow attracted to women with poor taste because otherwise they seem to exhibit style, common sense and even have reasonably successful careers.

It's Bizarro World around here.
 
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In regards to out of my league, I have a pretty high opinion of myself. Most women do worse than me. I have an awful example of that actually but it's too fucked up to mention here.

Any way, as awesome as I am, she has more options. Heck, friend #2 with the great personality (I assume) has plenty of options.

For me, the women I'm attracted to are overwhelmingly unavailable and those who are available have options. A lot of those options are guys that will tell them whatever they want to hear, they've got a $200,000 a year programming job at Facebook or they are some sort of pretty boy.

I make less than $200,000 a year. I won't blow smoke up her ass. I'm not terribly pretty.

Beyond that I've done a lot of stuff in half a lifetime that most people wouldn't get to in five. It's probably not interesting to the woman who likes pretty boys or being lied to.

That's not me beating myself up, that's me describing the challenge I face.

I don't seem to attract psychos, often times after rejecting my advances I'll hear that a woman I'm attracted to is dating a guy who is unemployed, a criminal, some sort of emo SJW type or a combination.

I don't think I can chalk that up to poor taste on my part unless I'm somehow attracted to women with poor taste because otherwise they seem to exhibit style, common sense and even have reasonably successful careers.

It's Bizarro World around here.

Up in the Bay, eh? I couldn't imagine dating up there. I got damn lucky finding my gal down here in the Inland Empire 909 area code ????. Every once in a while she does something more 'Murican than what I thought she was capable of LOLL.
 
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Yes, that's the haystack I'm sorting through.

I only know of a handful of conservative/libertarian women. One I like a lot but she has issues that kind of kill that idea. Don't ask, it's weird.

I've got to keep my fingers crossed and hope the women I like aren't too far gone.
 
Ah. Issues.
Just get a place with 2 bedrooms, pee on her in one, and go to sleep in the other one......




But yeah, too many issues make it tough.
We all have em, it boils down to do we know our own and in others can we figure them out. And when we do, can we live with em or.
 
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I would be fine with a solid moderate.

Around here I'm comparatively a hardcore conservative, most other places I'm probably on the moderate/conservative fence. The liberals around here would be a little too communist if they lived in Russia.
 
1 Coness to her that you're gay .
2. Show interest in her friend and ask her about her friend .
3. Let her catch you looking then ignore her the rest of the night
4. When you talk to her act like you know a dirty mortifying secret about her
5. When standing with her crowd after lengthy conversation with apl involved turn a
walk away like going to the bathroom or whatever . Make sure that she is in the path of your turn and egress then walk right thru her . Don't knock her down . Then tell her sorry I didn't see you there .
All joking aside . Be youself . I hope you have luck with her . My experience was that I found my Unicorn when I wasn't looking .
 
1 Coness to her that you're gay .
2. Show interest in her friend and ask her about her friend .
3. Let her catch you looking then ignore her the rest of the night
4. When you talk to her act like you know a dirty mortifying secret about her
5. When standing with her crowd after lengthy conversation with apl involved turn a
walk away like going to the bathroom or whatever . Make sure that she is in the path of your turn and egress then walk right thru her . Don't knock her down . Then tell her sorry I didn't see you there .
All joking aside . Be youself . I hope you have luck with her . My experience was that I found my Unicorn when I wasn't looking .

Number(s) 1 through 5; do they have to be in that order ? If so, I'm fukked. Memory isn't what it used to be.......Never mind that those days were 40 years ago.....

Funny thing is that I met my future wife the evening of the very same day (morning) that I swore off "chasing girls". Seriously. I didn't know what I wanted, or what I was looking for, but I knew I wasn't looking for another one nighter. I was about 22 and literally, I had "stopped looking" that very same morning". Yes, it was bizarre.....It was kind of like knowingly and willingly jumping out of a plane without a parachute. 12 hours earlier, I had zero idea as to who she was. Now, 40 years later, I'm typing this in a hotel room and she's sitting next to me.....
 
That's BS, nobody swears off of chasing girls at 22 and means it.

I've never been the type who goes to a bar with the single goal of finding a girl to take home before last call. Bars have never really been my thing until I found this one because the kitchen is great. It turns out the crowd is pretty cool because it's a geek bar so I'm among my people.

My taste in women is that once I get beyond the superficial (not happened with the unicorn yet), I want a woman that is at least close to me on an intellectual level and exhibits some common sense. That can be hard to find because while I try not to be serious, I don't often find myself outclassed and I'm surrounded by some of the smartest people in the world.

That's a hard thing to chase because women don't really make a display of intellect. They could be the hottest thing you've ever seen and dumb as a box of rocks.
 
IQ near even works well. If you are way off balance on EQ, it will never work.

My ex is conservative, smart, and driving. Quite pretty too. She is a selfish and evil bitch who cares about nothing else until she has what she wants. She doesnt care who she hurts in any of her doings, my daughter included.

I couldnt live with someone like that. And wont.
 
That's BS, nobody swears off of chasing girls at 22 and means it.

I've never been the type who goes to a bar with the single goal of finding a girl to take home before last call. Bars have never really been my thing until I found this one because the kitchen is great. It turns out the crowd is pretty cool because it's a geek bar so I'm among my people.

My taste in women is that once I get beyond the superficial (not happened with the unicorn yet), I want a woman that is at least close to me on an intellectual level and exhibits some common sense. That can be hard to find because while I try not to be serious, I don't often find myself outclassed and I'm surrounded by some of the smartest people in the world.

That's a hard thing to chase because women don't really make a display of intellect. They could be the hottest thing you've ever seen and dumb as a box of rocks.
Very often, you have to go outside your comfort zone to get the kind of girl you want.

I live in Santa Barbara, which is a pretty girl haven, but many of them are extremely intellectually unsatisfying.

So, as I liked to say, I had to leave Santa Barbara to find my beach bunny. (And I joke that, just like beer, foreign is better than domestic)

But to get to the practical in terms of interaction, the phrase that my wife says won her over was when, after she said she wasn't looking for a boyfriend right now, I responded with, "well, ok, but I'm pursuing you. If you ever come to the determination that there will NEVER be anything of a romantic relationship between us, please let me know, because I don't need yet another female friend."

The trick is you also have to mean it.

Self-respect when pursuing a girl will get a girl that has written you off to regret having done so (do NOT take those girls back), but will also attract a girl that has her sh*t together.

Be funny, be charming, but be intentional. Don't be creepy about it, but if she backs off because of your directness, drop her like a bad habit. That is the kind of girl that will do nothing but play games.
 
Also, this might come in handy...
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Our paths may cross tomorrow. If they do, it's time for some opposition research to figure out her friends.

I'll say hello and if either of her friends arrive before she does, maybe offer them a drink and ask questions about her and the unicorn.

Nothing too personal, just first name, occupation, interests stuff and maybe what kind of guys does the unicorn normally go for.

Of course I'll share a little about myself.

Hopefully with a little effort, I'll get her friends on my side.
 
That's BS, nobody swears off of chasing girls at 22 and means it.

I've never been the type who goes to a bar with the single goal of finding a girl to take home before last call. Bars have never really been my thing until I found this one because the kitchen is great. It turns out the crowd is pretty cool because it's a geek bar so I'm among my people.

My taste in women is that once I get beyond the superficial (not happened with the unicorn yet), I want a woman that is at least close to me on an intellectual level and exhibits some common sense. That can be hard to find because while I try not to be serious, I don't often find myself outclassed and I'm surrounded by some of the smartest people in the world.

That's a hard thing to chase because women don't really make a display of intellect. They could be the hottest thing you've ever seen and dumb as a box of rocks.

Ummm............you know, that's the second time I have engaged in dialog with you and you have insulted me both times. This, the second time, I was trying to help you.

My mistake, won't happen again.

Does it ever occur to you that your own attitude might just be part of the bigger problem ?

Good luck in your pursuits, looks like it's gonna take a lot of work.....
 
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Of course, I just want to avoid the cock block from her friends. That's the opposition I'll be researching.

If I can learn a tiny bit about what the unicorn likes in the process, I'll take it.

I don't have to worry as much about leaving a good impression on her friends because I won't be worried about it, I just have to be polite, complimentary and sincere, just establish some familiarity and figure out how to get on their good side.
 
Ummm............you know, that's the second time I have engaged in dialog with you and you have insulted me both times. This, the second time, I was trying to help you.

My mistake, won't happen again.

Does it ever occur to you that your own attitude might just be part of the bigger problem ?

Good luck in your pursuits, looks like it's gonna take a lot of work.....
Really, if you hadn't found you're girl soon after, how long do you think you would have lasted?

Also, calling BS and insulting people are two different things. If I insulted you, you would feel it.

If you see me spouting BS (which happens occasionally), call me on it. I won't be insulted if you have a point.
 
I did a search to figure out the other time I "insulted you". I couldn't find it but I did see you calling BS in the motivational picture thread (I think).

I'm sure I didn't find it because I don't know what to look for but if I was insulting for no reason (or a bad reason), I would apologize.
 
Of course, I just want to avoid the cock block from her friends. That's the opposition I'll be researching.

If I can learn a tiny bit about what the unicorn likes in the process, I'll take it.

I don't have to worry as much about leaving a good impression on her friends because I won't be worried about it, I just have to be polite, complimentary and sincere, just establish some familiarity and figure out how to get on their good side.
You are there to talk to her. Period. Be polite and engage with her friends, but make it known you are pursuing her. Forthrightness is a desirable trait in a girl worth pursuing.

This isn't clown college. If you are engaging her friends to find out about her, you are playing games. At which point, take two of these, and wait for it to kick in before you engage the next girl:
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You are there to talk to her. Period. Be polite and engage with her friends, but make it known you are pursuing her. Forthrightness is a desirable trait in a girl worth pursuing.

This isn't clown college. If you are engaging her friends to find out about her, you are playing games. At which point, take two of these, and wait for it to kick in before you engage the next girl:
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One must first consider your advisers success in landing a "unicorn"
before giving much credence to their guidance.
Some on here may even try to lead you astray for the carnage.
"Unicorn" seems to mean many different things depending on the subject.

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first off....there are no unicorns. If you think she is, then you are not being realistic. No one is perfect. Not me, not you, and certainly not her.

The faults are there, they always are. And if you are not seeing them, you need to chill out until you do.

once you know a person’s faults, and they know yours, and you both decide it is acceptable, that you should consider moving forward. But if you are convincing yourself she’s (or you) are a unicorn, you are not being truthful with anyone.

That’s my 2 cents. That, and another 1.50, will get you a cup of coffee at the gas station.
 
Hi,

Just FWIW Peeps....https://www.unicorns-r-us.com/

Sincerely,
Theis

A “Unicorn” is that rare, mythical figure that many couples look for, a polyamorous, bisexual woman (Yay! That sounds great!), someone who might want to date both you and your partner. That sounds good. That means that “Unicorn Hunters” are a couple who are looking for that person to join their Dyad, to make a Triad.
 
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first off....there are no unicorns. If you think she is, then you are not being realistic. No one is perfect. Not me, not you, and certainly not her.

The faults are there, they always are. And if you are not seeing them, you need to chill out until you do.

once you know a person’s faults, and they know yours, and you both decide it is acceptable, that you should consider moving forward. But if you are convincing yourself she’s (or you) are a unicorn, you are not being truthful with anyone.

That’s my 2 cents. That, and another 1.50, will get you a cup of coffee at the gas station.

This is the first thing I thought when I read your post Myronman3:

Cameron has never been in love - at least, nobody's ever been in love with him. If things don't change for him, he's gonna marry the first girl he lays, and she's gonna treat him like shit, because she will have given him what he has built up in his mind as the end-all, be-all of human existence. She won't respect him, 'cause you can't respect somebody who kisses your ass. It just doesn't work.

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