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there is seriously nothing being done there that a fucking home builder can't do.
$2200+ for just a MK12 upper is ridiculous, that's MORE than a brand new KAC SR15 complete rifle!
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Create a channel Learn moreThis concept is very intriguing. I also have a WOA barrel and Bart chambered up my 223 bolt gun. Since we have same chambers would you mind sharing your load data and such. Wonder if we would get similar results?I bought a White Oak Armament 20" "SPR" barrel and have been very pleased with it. Shot it successfuly in a few gas gun matches to 1070yds using the same 75gr Horn BTHP, 8208, LC load that my bolt gun trainer barrel shoots well. Both Wylde chambers.
If you want to get really fancy, I just put together a 22 Grendel, 22" Bart Baldwin barrel; it hammered in a match yesterday. 75gr ELDMs at 2975fps mildy. Needs .2mrad more at 1000 than a Dasher shooting 105 Hybrids at 2920fps and another .1mrad of wind.
I've actually found a way to build even better Rifles from that standard.
This is from a 16" Recce at a
100yrds, 10 shot Group with a 8X Trijicon Accupower, just confirming zero before it goes home.
Bigjake83, I'm interested in how you are building your rifles. I'm currently putting together a VLTOR MUR upper, VLTOR Handguard and a Craddock Precision Criterion barrel. I'm looking for the kind of accuracy you're getting.
I was going to follow these instruction. I would be interested to hear your input.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/precision-rifles/Hellbenders_guides_to_Ultimate_AR15_and_or_AR10/4-42/
I just put a WOA Bartlein 4 groove in a run of the mill Aero upper. Did nothing more than lap the face of the upper square and a little anti seize on the extension. Rl15 and a 77 smk went under a 1/2 an inch for 5 in LC unprepared brass sorted for weight only. Same load shoots tighter in a proof savage 223 profit.
Or Not!
there is seriously nothing being done there that a fucking home builder can't do.
$2200+ for just a MK12 upper is ridiculous, that's MORE than a brand new KAC SR15 complete rifle!
I've actually found a way to build even better Rifles from that standard.
This is from a 16" Recce at a
100yrds, 10 shot Group with a 8X Trijicon Accupower, just confirming zero before it goes home.
I’m interested in this. I’m in the planning phase of a similar build and wouldn’t mind hearing your experience on a 16” Recce type build.
I know these guys have been the way to go for a great clone down to the spec. I'm really not sure a MK12 clone will give me the performance that I'm looking for though. This is one of those, "What the military is using may not be good enough." kind of things.
I here you. At the time, I wanted a spec mk12. I would have built it but at the time they were the only source with the parts available. I have no regrets although I didn’t pay quite what they are charging now.
There are some things I would change about any future builds, mostly barrel length and rail, but that upper is consistently very accurate.
This is how I've built my most accurate recce rifle to date. It's a true .25 - .5 MOA Rifle.
Full Custom Recce Rifle.
Custom Hybrid Contour 16" Krieger Barrel fluted, 1-7.7 Wyde Chamber, 9/16 Threaded, and headspaced by Compass Lake to a JP enhanced Bolt. Before the barrel extension that I provided was threaded onto the barrel it was polished to a mirror finish, feeds without scratching brass or projectiles.
In the past year and a half with all the builds I've done this Barrel contour has produced the best Barrel harmonics, and with the 9/16x24 threads it keeps the heat distribution even.
Fully Adjustable Mid Length gas system.
American precision arms muzzle brake.(very effective and easy to install)
Complete JP LMOS BCG and SCS Tuned to this Rifle. (Has second SCS (H2) if someone chooses to run suppressed)
KAC 45° Off Set BUIS
Larue Upper Receiver and handguard. upper receiver face was trued properly on a lathe with dial indicators, same as you would true a 700 action, and was properly bedded. (I specifically chose the Larue setup because it's an honest free floating system, nothing touches the barrel or barrel nut not even the handguard)
PWS Full Ambi Lower (the reason I chose this lowers because it's almost identical to the SR15 Ambi lower)
Tuned AR Gold Trigger
Trijicon Accupower 1-8x MIL with BoBro QD Mount.
And this is actually for sale if anybody's interested.
I'm going to post this in it's own thread so people can get some ideas, and maybe learn something.
This is the exact rifle that this 10rd group target was shot with at 100yrds.
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