Or Not!
there is seriously nothing being done there that a fucking home builder can't do.
$2200+ for just a MK12 upper is ridiculous, that's MORE than a brand new KAC SR15 complete rifle!
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Gonna build me an SPR. Which upper will be best?
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Or Not!
there is seriously nothing being done there that a fucking home builder can't do.
$2200+ for just a MK12 upper is ridiculous, that's MORE than a brand new KAC SR15 complete rifle!
Put a Krieger 1/7.7 18-20" barrel with a Geissele trigger into just about anything and you're GTG.
Though it's a heck of a lot simpler just to order from CLE.
Though it's a heck of a lot simpler just to order from CLE.
This concept is very intriguing. I also have a WOA barrel and Bart chambered up my 223 bolt gun. Since we have same chambers would you mind sharing your load data and such. Wonder if we would get similar results?
Have a hammer load in the WOA with 77 but not with 8208, and the 75s showed some early promise in the bolt gun but I never finished load development. One load for each … very interesting idea.
Bigjake83, I'm interested in how you are building your rifles. I'm currently putting together a VLTOR MUR upper, VLTOR Handguard and a Craddock Precision Criterion barrel. I'm looking for the kind of accuracy you're getting.
I was going to follow these instruction. I would be interested to hear your input.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/precision-rifles/Hellbenders_guides_to_Ultimate_AR15_and_or_AR10/4-42/
No absolutely not that guy's a fucking Retard! Do not follow those instructions!
You have selected quality parts, that kind of practice was probably originally intended for the crudest of rifles.
Craddock makes outstanding barrels but for what you're looking to achieve I would recommend picking up a Krieger / Bartlein from Compass Lake, or Craddock.
I would be more than happy to help you. I've done a few "How To" threads on here, but they always get destroyed or lost when Snipers Hide goes from one version to another, or partners up with another Company, but we won't speak of that. Just shoot me a PM, when you're ready to assemble or need help with parts selection
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I just put a WOA Bartlein 4 groove in a run of the mill Aero upper. Did nothing more than lap the face of the upper square and a little anti seize on the extension. Rl15 and a 77 smk went under a 1/2 an inch for 5 in LC unprepared brass sorted for weight only. Same load shoots tighter in a proof savage 223 profit.
Yeah it's really not that complicated of a process these days especially with the advancements we've made in these CNC machines and there's a lot better quality Parts being produced.
But I never mind helping people on here, that's what it's supposed to be all about on these forums.
Yeah, I must admit I misread his original post and thought he was looking for a mk12 clone. My bad on the reading comprehension. Although I would caveat your statement to add “a well researched home builder” can do the same or better. I’ve seen some pretty horrid home builds.
That being said, in that market space I whole heartedly recommend a KAC LPR Mod 1 or Mod 2 if your going to buy a complete rifle.
If your building then you are correct there are less expensive ways to get to the end result. The barrels from HCS are very good and are usually in stock but there are other sources for barrels that are just as good. Compass Lake and Craddock as mentioned before.
Bigjake83 I’ve followed some of your builds in the past and you definitely seem to have you shit sorted out. This is one of those time where reading comprehension would have helped.
This is how I've built my most accurate recce rifle to date. It's a true .25 - .5 MOA Rifle.
Full Custom Recce Rifle.
Custom Hybrid Contour 16" Krieger Barrel fluted, 1-7.7 Wyde Chamber, 9/16 Threaded, and headspaced by Compass Lake to a JP enhanced Bolt. Before the barrel extension that I provided was threaded onto the barrel it was polished to a mirror finish, feeds without scratching brass or projectiles.
In the past year and a half with all the builds I've done this Barrel contour has produced the best Barrel harmonics, and with the 9/16x24 threads it keeps the heat distribution even.
Fully Adjustable Mid Length gas system.
American precision arms muzzle brake.(very effective and easy to install)
Complete JP LMOS BCG and SCS Tuned to this Rifle. (Has second SCS (H2) if someone chooses to run suppressed)
KAC 45° Off Set BUIS
Larue Upper Receiver and handguard. upper receiver face was trued properly on a lathe with dial indicators, same as you would true a 700 action, and was properly bedded. (I specifically chose the Larue setup because it's an honest free floating system, nothing touches the barrel or barrel nut not even the handguard)
PWS Full Ambi Lower (the reason I chose this lowers because it's almost identical to the SR15 Ambi lower)
Tuned AR Gold Trigger
Trijicon Accupower 1-8x MIL with BoBro QD Mount.
And this is actually for sale if anybody's interested.
I'm going to post this in it's own thread so people can get some ideas, and maybe learn something.
This is the exact rifle that this 10rd group target was shot with at 100yrds.
Full Custom Recce Rifle.
Custom Hybrid Contour 16" Krieger Barrel fluted, 1-7.7 Wyde Chamber, 9/16 Threaded, and headspaced by Compass Lake to a JP enhanced Bolt. Before the barrel extension that I provided was threaded onto the barrel it was polished to a mirror finish, feeds without scratching brass or projectiles.
In the past year and a half with all the builds I've done this Barrel contour has produced the best Barrel harmonics, and with the 9/16x24 threads it keeps the heat distribution even.
Fully Adjustable Mid Length gas system.
American precision arms muzzle brake.(very effective and easy to install)
Complete JP LMOS BCG and SCS Tuned to this Rifle. (Has second SCS (H2) if someone chooses to run suppressed)
KAC 45° Off Set BUIS
Larue Upper Receiver and handguard. upper receiver face was trued properly on a lathe with dial indicators, same as you would true a 700 action, and was properly bedded. (I specifically chose the Larue setup because it's an honest free floating system, nothing touches the barrel or barrel nut not even the handguard)
PWS Full Ambi Lower (the reason I chose this lowers because it's almost identical to the SR15 Ambi lower)
Tuned AR Gold Trigger
Trijicon Accupower 1-8x MIL with BoBro QD Mount.
And this is actually for sale if anybody's interested.
I'm going to post this in it's own thread so people can get some ideas, and maybe learn something.
This is the exact rifle that this 10rd group target was shot with at 100yrds.
I'm impressed with the WOA SDM barrel I just got. I stuck it in a BCM upper and took it to the range yesterday to try out different ammo and break the barrel in a bit. I took 8 different boxes of .223 ammo to test with 5 shot groups at 100 yards. I should have written down which one was which. Going to have to repeat this. LOL I think it shot pretty well considering the novice gas gun shooter pulling the trigger. Sure is different from the .22LR I usually shoot.
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