Good Guy with a Gun saves Many....

[pmclaine]

Two different narratives in the same news cycle.

This is the way....

Gunman kills two inside Texas church during a livestreamed communion

A gunman has killed two people inside a Texas church during a livestreamed service Sunday before he was shot dead by an armed member of the congregation.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[pmclaine]

That's bravery on the left.

Evil Cowardice on the right.

 

[MCSO1357]

That's bravery on the left.

Evil Cowardice on the right.

That’s the truth. The supposed “shepherd,” who should be protecting his flock, is diving to the ground.

 

[Rthur]

Where is the social media history of the shooter?

R

 

[Sniperwannabee]

That’s the truth. The supposed “shepherd,” who should be protecting his flock, is diving to the ground.

ya I’m sure if you were being shot at you would just stand there

 

[FS1]

This needs to happen every time. I will never give up my arms. It it ever happens around me I hope I have the courage.

 

[earthtrekker1775]

My last church, I was in the safety team, pastor and safety team trained together and were always strapped. This is the way.

 

[pmclaine]

That’s the truth. The supposed “shepherd,” who should be protecting his flock, is diving to the ground.

I aint shitting on anyone in that circumstance.

If he aint trained, armed or mentally prepped who are we to second guess?

Judge not lest ye be judged or something like that.

 

[Alabusa]

I would hope to have the balls that this church goer did and be able to confront the shooter.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

It didn’t end happily enough... but it could have been way worse.

Can’t wait to find out who the wizard in the trench coat is.

The security guard needs to get a medal for this.... stone cold cool under fire. He saved many in a church. His place in Valhalla or wherever he wants to go... should be assured

Sirhr

 

[pmclaine]

It didn’t end happily enough... but it could have been way worse.

Can’t wait to find out who the wizard in the trench coat is.

The security guard needs to get a medal for this.... stone cold cool under fire. He saved many in a church. His place in Valhalla or wherever he wants to go... should be assured

Sirhr

Thinking Valhalla doesn't really figure in Christianity but I understand your sentiment......


The saviors will likely get to hang around with Archangels Michael and Gabriel to talk smiting.

 

[Sniperwannabee]

neverr even heard of Valhalla

 

[OldSalty]

Where is the social media history of the shooter?

R

Scrubbed...if I were to guess.

 

[FS1]

You can never prevent evil entirely...but you sure can blow it's head off when it shows itself.

 

[mikehotel]

link to live feed

White Settlement, TX Church Shooting Livestream (with Audio) - Streamable

Check out this video on Streamable using your phone, tablet or desktop.

streamable.com

 

[TheGerman]

neverr even heard of Valhalla

It's near Cleveland.

 

[Rlandry]

I wonder if the shooter was an NRA member?

 

[WaltHer]

Contrary to libtard philosophizing, thoughts and prayers are enough-when those thoughts and prayers lead people to arm themselves, get training, and prepare themselves to be responsible for their safety and that of those around them. Nothing but respect for this good shepard.

 

[Sniperwannabee]

i counted 6 people carrying maybe more

 

[TheGerman]

So from watching the video:

- The guy with the CCW is lucky as shit he got a solid first any only round into the shooter. It's blurry and small but the pistol looked like it was some short revolver? Good shot - wonder if he could do it again or everything literally just lined up.

- The guys on the wall who just got a shotgun pointed at them and both just stood there.

- I'll give credit to the people there that there was no constant screaming, and the dumb bitch that stands up and just starts yelling crying and screaming the entire fucking time apparently doesn't go to that church.

- Guy who died en route to hospital, I'm betting, died to lack of an med supplies and trauma care at the site before EMS got there. Look at them, they're all just kind of moving towards the downed people and just.....stand there.

- Every church needs 2 guys flanking the service (kind of like the guys at the wall, on each side) with a loaded AR15 in a cabinet. A church building design is a huge kill box; one large room with limited exists. Why just hope nothing happens?

 

[FS1]

I wonder if the shooter was an NRA member?

I wonder if your're an asshole...I guess that is self evident.

 

[W54/XM-388]

People are waking up and refusing to be part of the "victim" narrative.
I would bet this has a unspoken and unrecognized knock on effect of dampening the enthusiasm of the next Communist who has dreams of shooting up a bunch of worshipers.

My previous trainer at the Gym consulted with one of the really big churches in the area on security, they take both the stopping a shooter and identifying who is the good guy / bad guy fairly seriously.

It's also why I try not to go anyplace that doesn't want me to carry a gun.
Sorry but a murderer is not going to care about your little feel good no guns rule.

 

[Sniperwannabee]

I wonder if your're an asshole...I guess that is self evident.

I think he means the good Guy, well I hope so at least

 

[FS1]

I think he means the good Guy

In that case nevermind. But "shooter" to me means bad guy. Defender is good guy.

 

[Blue Sky Country]

At the supermarket right now. Getting tomatoes, eggs, and apples. Was talking with 4 other guys about random stuff, rain, and how traffic conditions are going to suck later. I showed them this article and the photo on the mainpage...

There are more HOLY SHIT's being said right now in this store than probably in the mission control room when that NASA Antares rocket blew up on the launchpad a few years back.

INCREDIBLE shooting and incredible bravery by those who stopped that scumbag. From the pic it looks like he had a rifle or another long gun of some kind.

RIP to the hero security guard.

This needs to be aggressively circulated, repeated, posted and reposted for all to see, everywhere.

 

[vh20]

Looks like first guy to get shot was trying to draw and couldn’t get it out. Took him FOREVER (figuratively and literally).

 

[Sniperwannabee]

They say never draw on a drawed weapon, should have went all out hands on

 

[Sniperwannabee]

This needs to happen every time. I will never give up my arms. It it ever happens around me I hope I have the courage.

I would hope to have the balls that this church goer did and be able to confront the shooter.

with humble attitudes like that I would bet my life you guys would do the right thing

 

[Blue Sky Country]

That’s the truth. The supposed “shepherd,” who should be protecting his flock, is diving to the ground.

"...So he is gone, Kradzy Zago?" Zarvas Pol said, holstering his weapon. "Gone in the time machine, to hide in yesterday or tomorrow. And you let him go?" The old one nodded. "He had a blaster, and I had none." He indicated the body on the floor. "Zoldy Jarv had no blaster, either, but he tried to stop Hradzka. See, he squandered his life as a fool squanders his money, getting nothing for it. And a man's life is not money, Zarvas Pol..."

-H. Beam Piper
Flight From Tomorrow
1950

 

[Deleted member 113831]

This guy was already sitting in the church, he didn't just pop in. He was sitting in the church with a shotgun, and no one noticed until he started shooting.

Bad profiling/failure to profile by the greeters/deacons whomever. I am on my church's security team. When these types show up, it is my job to evaluate them, baby sit them, and sit very close to watch thier every move.

I've actually ended up praying with people I thought I might have to shoot. Lot's of mental illness walking the streets in our area

 

[Carlos Danger]

You can bat your ass someone shows up in my church wearing any kind of garb like that, he'll be receiving my complete attention throughout the service.

I'll be watching the MSM tonight to hear the coverage of how an armed citizen stopped what would've (not could've) been a day of many deaths.

 

[gigamortis]

If you are church security, definitely pay attention to those that are not regular parishioners and dressed differently as to conceal something.

 

[pmclaine]

So from watching the video:

- The guy with the CCW is lucky as shit he got a solid first any only round into the shooter. It's blurry and small but the pistol looked like it was some short revolver? Good shot - wonder if he could do it again or everything literally just lined up.

- The guys on the wall who just got a shotgun pointed at them and both just stood there.

- I'll give credit to the people there that there was no constant screaming, and the dumb bitch that stands up and just starts yelling crying and screaming the entire fucking time apparently doesn't go to that church.

- Guy who died en route to hospital, I'm betting, died to lack of an med supplies and trauma care at the site before EMS got there. Look at them, they're all just kind of moving towards the downed people and just.....stand there.

- Every church needs 2 guys flanking the service (kind of like the guys at the wall, on each side) with a loaded AR15 in a cabinet. A church building design is a huge kill box; one large room with limited exists. Why just hope nothing happens?

That first shot can be the best one of the day.

If its done on training its all muscle memory making it happen before the brain gets a chance to think and fuck things up.

Don't consider it luck if its the result of proper training.

 

[Sniperwannabee]

That first shot can be the best one of the day.

If its done on training its all muscle memory making it happen before the brain gets a chance to think and fuck things up.

Don't consider it luck if its the result of proper training.

apparently the guy who shot the bad guy was former FBI

This Firearms Instructor Is Reportedly The Hero Who Killed Texas Church Gunman With Single Head Shot

On Sunday, during what would otherwise likely be a quiet worship service at the West Freeway Church of Christ in White Settlement, Texas, an armed gunman entered the church and after talking to a man for several minutes in the corner, pulled out a shotgun and opened fire. The gunman, as was...

dailysounder.com

 

[pmclaine]

apparently the guy who shot the bad guy was former FBI

He will be persona non grata among the communists in his agency like McCabe, Comey and Sztrock.......

 

[rlarsen462]

That was a hell of a shot at that distance on a moving target with a pistol that size and under stress. What a hero. It's just too bad he wasn't able to draw and get a clean shot as soon as that POS drew the shotgun. It almost looked like he tried to draw discretely as soon as he saw the shotgun thinking the situation could still be defused, and then when the perp saw the guy nearby struggling to draw from a sit it went down fast. I counted 7 seconds from the time he pulls the shotgun til the time he hits the floor. Probably felt like a half hour to those in the front.

 

[Marinevet1]

i counted 6 people carrying maybe more

never too many good guys with guns..........

 

[rlarsen462]

Streamable took that video down FYI, just a few seconds ago.

 

[Racer88]

The video has been removed from the site linked above. Anyone have a new link?

 

[Sniperwannabee]

There some still shots on you tube people are already breaking down the video

 

[Deleted member 10043]

New York Post still has the video up.

 

[Racer88]

The good guy that takes him out... with a single shot from quite a distance! Must have been a CNS hit. The perp dropped right there.

Looks like the bad guy took out two parishioners at almost point-blank range. It looks like one of the guys he shot was TRYING to draw a weapon but was too slow. He was struggling to draw. Sad.

Here's the NY Post link: https://nypost.com/2019/12/29/texas-church-shooting-leaves-2-dead/

 

[Deleted member 10043]

That’s the truth. The supposed “shepherd,” who should be protecting his flock, is diving to the ground.

This level of stupidity I've seen posted the last few days in the pit is enough to make even Jesus to never stop throwing up. LL is right. Some of you fucking idiots do more harm than good for our rights and beliefs. It's a wonder he keeps this forum up and running.

 

[Deleted member 113831]

This level of stupidity I've seen posted the last few days in the pit is enough to make even Jesus to never stop throwing up. LL is right. Some of you fucking idiots do more harm than good for our rights and beliefs. It's a wonder he keeps this forum up and running.

^^^^This....and the yapping motherfuckers that act like they are gonna march on Virginia and split wigs....except that they are too busy stirring up shit on a public forum. Fucking worthless agitators.

 

[earthtrekker1775]

This guy was already sitting in the church, he didn't just pop in. He was sitting in the church with a shotgun, and no one noticed until he started shooting.

Bad profiling/failure to profile by the greeters/deacons whomever. I am on my church's security team. When these types show up, it is my job to evaluate them, baby sit them, and sit very close to watch thier every move.

I've actually ended up praying with people I thought I might have to shoot. Lot's of mental illness walking the streets in our area

Same, numerous times. I still will sit behind and near anyone in church I have concerns about, pick an isle seat and look casual.

I haven't prayed with my eyes closed for decades.

 

[Maggot]

This level of stupidity I've seen posted the last few days in the pit is enough to make even Jesus to never stop throwing up. LL is right. Some of you fucking idiots do more harm than good for our rights and beliefs. It's a wonder he keeps this forum up and running.

Yup, some (barely concealed) racism that made me want to hurl. Its an insult to the Hide.

Carry on, Culpepper, even if you are a girl. ?

 

[Zeroit]

My wife conducted many conceal carry classes over the years we had a number of church groups that took security seriously authorized by the church. I think a few churches in our area are probably not as soft of a target as the badguy(s) would like.

 

[Zeroit]

White Settlement, TX Church Shooting Livestream (with Audio) - Streamable

Check out this video on Streamable using your phone, tablet or desktop.

streamable.com

 

[WaltHer]

RAW VIDEO: Livestream Captures Deadly Shooting at White Settlement, Texas Church - Breaking911

Two people are dead and one is in critical condition following a shooting inside a Church in White Settlement, Texas Sunday morning. The shooter was shot dead by a churchgoer who is the head of security. The gunfire rang out around 11:30 a.m. local time at the West Freeway Church of Christ–1900...

breaking911.com

 

[earthtrekker1775]

Active self protection on youtube has a good breakdown and analysis of the event.