Guessing this is why Marines are giving up armor......

[Mr.BR]

Indeed folks are ignorant of the fear Red Army brought to the Japanese, post ww2 the history of WW2 was soon westernized to the extreme.
although the campaign was short they whooped their asses twice once before WW2 even started for real and then spectacularly routed Kwantugng Army like its was s small speed bump , an did that trough terrain no one taught passable for force with heavy armor.
War going on any longer would mean hard Soviet occupation on at least part of the Japanese mainland and Ivan might just come and hang the Emperor not just 'demote' him to playboy billionaire, early surrender was a far better option for them. Ivan still had some unfinished business from previous wars.
https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/2...n-of-manchuria-led-to-japans-greatest-defeat/

Japanese slaughtered tens of millions of Chinese , Chinese numbers are never even factored into WW2 stats because no one gave a fuck and Chinese were quite non players in the WW2 fight.
Only Chinese that were really a match for the Japanese were the units Germans trained and equipped. The tool they exacted on Japanese likely triggered sack of Nanjing.

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/guest-bloggers/unexpected-partnership-germany-china.html

 

[Mr.BR]

Meanwhile Armenian Azerbajani war is still heating up.

https://infodigest.com.ng/defend-our-nation-armenian-diaspora-feels-pull-of-another-war-armenia/

Altought drones make for lots of feeds to post on You tube most of the killing is done old fashioned way with artillery and gunfire.

 

[Soulezoo]

^^^^^ "but wait, weren't Germans and Japanese allied?..."
That link above is accurate. The second largest beer brewer in China, Tsingtao, was started by the Germans.

 

[Disfunctional_Engineer]

I will add this: if you truly want to get facts and understand what was happening at the time, then take the advice others here have given regarding reading the books of people who were there. Also, you would do well to listen/read to anything Victor Davis Hanson has to say on the subject.

Also, as much as I dislike MacArthur, consider how the world would be different today if we had used nukes against the Chinese in Korea. And before you get to crying about how many people would die, consider the genocide committed by both Kim and Mao. The cultural revolution in China murdered over 50 million civilians. And that is a conservative estimate. If the nukes had of stopped the Chinese and N. Koreans, and put in new governments.... just how many more might have lived in contrast? Things to ponder...
Sometimes you have to break some eggs to make an omelet.

The big question in my mind is would it have smacked the Chinese in the face enough to keep Viet Nam at bay or stopped entirely.

 

[W54/XM-388]

Also, as much as I dislike MacArthur, consider how the world would be different today if we had used nukes against the Chinese in Korea. And before you get to crying about how many people would die, consider the genocide committed by both Kim and Mao. The cultural revolution in China murdered over 50 million civilians. And that is a conservative estimate. If the nukes had of stopped the Chinese and N. Koreans, and put in new governments.... just how many more might have lived in contrast? Things to ponder...
Sometimes you have to break some eggs to make an omelet.

As I recall from my history lessons and I may be mistaken.

Traitors in the state department let the Chinese Communists know the president had decided to remove the nuclear option from the war in Korea and once they found that out, they went all in.

We may not have even had to use it, to keep them out of the Korean war, only impress on them that we were willing to use it and had it ready and waiting for them.

Kind of why you never want to take your nukes off the table or any other doomsday weapon you have.

 

[Soulezoo]

The big question in my mind is would it have smacked the Chinese in the face enough to keep Viet Nam at bay or stopped entirely.

No, I don't believe so. USSR was helping Vietnam more than China. The Vietnamese had their own conflicts with China as China tried to exert power in the late 70's. Conflicts with the French in the 50's is where Ho Chi Minh made his bones but victory over the US and China immortalized him. Kind of convoluted, but Vietnam had issues with Japanese and Chinese in WWII and distrusted everyone.

 

[Forgetful Coyote]

Do y’all think weapons like the H&K XM25 will become more common in the future? Army said it was super effective, until one exploded on a dude.

Sounded like a seriously revolutionary weapon tho..

 

[RyanScott]

The 25mm grenade didn’t carry enough HE.