Here is my review for those interested. TL;DW—it’s a really cool little PDW package. Nice to be able to drop a (non-RDS) carry or full length slide and FCU into it and have an easier to shoot package that can store 43+ rounds on board. Suppressed with the Wolfman I found that it gassed me out really fast, being so close up on it. All in all, if you have a 320 or FCU sitting around due to the current issues with the platform, this might be the ticket for you.
Have a 320 you no longer trust? Consider a Flux Raider.
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Here is my review for those interested. TL;DW—it’s a really cool little PDW package. Nice to be able to drop a (non-RDS) carry or full length slide and FCU into it and have an easier to shoot package that can store 43+ rounds on board. Suppressed with the Wolfman I found that it gassed me out really fast, being so close up on it. All in all, if you have a 320 or FCU sitting around due to the current issues with the platform, this might be the ticket for you.
Blowback powder on a suppressed pistol already sucks. The idea is cool but I’m sure I don’t want it even closer to my face spraying me in the eyes/ face.
This really just seems Instagram cool and not practical. I can shoot the house down within 25-30 meters and for $800 this seems like it would hardly increase lethality. Might be okay for someone who can’t shoot well. (But you should buy ammo and learn to not suck over this)
This really just seems Instagram cool and not practical. I can shoot the house down within 25-30 meters and for $800 this seems like it would hardly increase lethality. Might be okay for someone who can’t shoot well. (But you should buy ammo and learn to not suck over this)
Yup. No issues whatsoever shooting it without the can, FWIW. A “flow” 9mm can would probably be the best bet for someone who wants to go all-in on one of these.
What issue is that ? the one where if you move the trigger rearward it goes bang ?
Have you not seen the controversy of P320s going off in the holster without the trigger being pulled? Not saying every case is a mechanical issue with the gun, but plenty of people are ditching them.
10mm IS the perfect defense round. 15 10mm rounds = 30 9mm rounds.
If I had one bullet to shoot someone with, of course I’d prefer a 10. But you can’t miss fast enough to win a gunfight, and I’d always take 30 rounds with proven and acceptable stopping power vs 15rds with better stopping power.
has never been duplicated OR proven. How many were in the wrong holster ? Recent cases have even been dismissed after "victim" admitted they might of been wrong.
Over 3 million in circulation, if there was a true problem it would be running rampant.
No. Those statement were the result of settling lawsuits. (Plaintiff issued their own motion to dismiss which never happens on the brink of trial). The rest of the cases are being settled - that’s not evidence of innocence.
I’ve got no dog in this fight—I’ve owned a 320 for 8-9 years now, over 2.3K rounds without issue. But, there’s no denying that there seems to be something going on. The Washington State Criminal Justice Training Commission just banned them from their facilities. Numerous agencies have discontinued or banned them, including ICE.
It has already been debunked with gun was in a holster not made for it and the trigger was lightened for competition
lol!
They’re paying all these lawsuits to settle. You don’t pay money for ndas and public statements on the eve of trial if you’re innocent.
And let’s not forget the trial they lost for $11mm.
There's also the exploding frames from out of battery detonation. Apparently there is an after market disconnect and aftermarket barrels with better chamber support to mitigate or potentially eliminate the problem, but it's a stupid problem to have. Mine just had its first malfunction, failure to go into battery, after around 6k rounds. I'm debating the upgrades vs replacing it with an HK USP Expert.
I don't know much about it, only becoming recently aware, but on Sig forums there are people talking about the FCU frame rails being a problem also, varying tolerances from being a cast part. IIRC there can be excessive play between the frame and slide rails causing accuracy issues. There is also speculation about the X5 Legion slide being a problem, with its relief cuts, and guys are welding them up or buying original X5 slides. I think that was allegedly related to the explody nature of the gun.
I'd give the Raider a try at least as a novelty but am stuck behind enemy lines and can't own it.
A bit unfortunate, the whole situation, as I do rather like the gun itself and have enjoyed shooting it. But they have problems that shouldn't be my problem to solve.
I don't know much about it, only becoming recently aware, but on Sig forums there are people talking about the FCU frame rails being a problem also, varying tolerances from being a cast part. IIRC there can be excessive play between the frame and slide rails causing accuracy issues. There is also speculation about the X5 Legion slide being a problem, with its relief cuts, and guys are welding them up or buying original X5 slides. I think that was allegedly related to the explody nature of the gun.
I'd give the Raider a try at least as a novelty but am stuck behind enemy lines and can't own it.
A bit unfortunate, the whole situation, as I do rather like the gun itself and have enjoyed shooting it. But they have problems that shouldn't be my problem to solve.
If plastic guns have taught us anything, it's if they don't work, strap a bunch of shit on them to make them REALLY not work. 
The first 2 minutes of this is good. Then stop and close it out.
The first 2 minutes of this is good. Then stop and close it out.
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That was 2nd gen 9mm and early 3rd gen 10mm and 40. Your picture is a 5th gen. Glock barrels have the same support as any modern semi auto.
That was my whole point, any semi auto, particularly polymer, can blow up with a bad round. That aspect is not unique to Sig, regardless of their other issues.
Sig 320s have out of battery discharge issues. That's not the same as bulged cases. Uncommanded discharges and out of battery discharges are related to trigger design and quality problems. Sig USA has had problems since day one and nothing has changed in those 20+ years.
