Gunsmithing Head spacing and worn out 03 Springfield

armydog

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  • Nov 26, 2010
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    I'm not a gunsmith nor do I play one on TV so heres a question. I have a 03 Springfield that has excess head space. It has the original 1918 barrel, I would like to keep this barrel and shoot it some, can a good gunsmith remove the barrel chuck it in a lathe remove a little off the shoulder and run a chamber reamer in it to the correct head space? Or doesn't it work that way?
     
    Re: Head spacing and worn out 03 Springfield

    Well, yes- and no. Enough would have to be taken off to RE index the barrel, then the cone breech and extractor slot would need to be deepened. HOW out of headspace is it? Have you used a field gauge?
    Sounds good right? I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
     
    Re: Head spacing and worn out 03 Springfield

    OK I'm gonna get flamed for this, but here it is....
    My grandfather gave me a US model of 1917, Eddystone. It was in full original military glory. I shot it for a number of years and it developed a headspace problem causing bulged cartridge bases and some case head seperations. I bought a set of headspace gages and sure enough, the headspace was excessive. I searched around for available barrels, gunsmiths to do a barrel changeout, and considered the same thing you did about re-cutting the existing barrel. The gun still puts 3 rounds into less than 1 inch at 100 yards and the barrel has nice shiny strong rifling. I just couldn't see trashing the original barrel.
    I ruminated on this for a couple years and one day just got the old girl out and started to see if I could figure out a way to take the slop out of it myself. I noticed when I closed the bolt on a "go" gage, the bolt could be jiggled back and forth by hand. I put in the field gage and all but maybe 1 or 2 thousandths of the slack was gone. Just barely perceptible movement of the bolt. I thought about this off and on for a few months, then finally decided nothing ventured-nothing gained. I pulled the bolt out and took it to work where we have an ace welder. I got him to add some metal to the rear of the bolt locking lugs with a stainless welding rod.
    When I got back home a couple weeks later, I took a file and carefully worked down the added metal until the bolt would barely close on an empty chamber. Of course I had removed the extractor etc previously. I then used my "go" gage as a fitting tool and worked the metal down until the bolt would close on the go gage and would not close on the "no-go." This took all of about 4 hours. Test-fired with progressively stronger reloads until I reached my accuracy load with excellent results.
    No more bulged cases, no huge gunsmith bill, I have the satisfaction that I fixed it myself, and the rifle is back in service and I can once again enjoy using it.
    I am not advocating that anyone else do this, merely relaying my experience with this exact same problem as the OP. I am a lifelong mechanic and pretty much can't stand the thought of not being able to fix anything myself. It's just a mental problem I have.....
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    ETA: during the diagnosis portion of my DIY project I also got some cerrosafe from Brownells and took a cast of the chamber to make sure it was not out of spec. It was OK.
     
    Re: Head spacing and worn out 03 Springfield

    I have a correct bolt coming for the rifle and was gonna recheck it after that. I have a few other 03's I can try swapping out bolts and checking to see if its better. i'll let you know.
     
    Re: Head spacing and worn out 03 Springfield

    As Scooby Doo would say: Rut Ro Raggy!

    If it closes on a field gage, and your barrel/chamber appear AND MEASURE to be pristine, I'd say you have the same problem I did--worn locking lugs. MY next step was to get some Cerrosafe and take a casting of the chamber to make sure the dimensions were correct. If you do this, pay attention to the instructions because there is a certain period of time that the casting will measure correctly.

    Hopefully your new bolt will headspace correctly and you can go from there.
    Disclaimer: don't let my ramblings influence you to take matters into your own hands which should be handled by a real gunsmith. I took the risk and did it myself, but I may not be in my right mind....
     
    Re: Head spacing and worn out 03 Springfield

    On another forum one of the "oracles" said that the '03 is unique among rifles. When a round is chambered, the bolt can be pressed forward. He suggested chambering a fired case, pulling the bolt back as far as possible ten measuring the clearance on the rear of the safety lug using feeler gauges. Once this measurement is determined, then push the bolt forward as much as possible and measure this dimension again. This is essentially the "headspace" or amount that a round can be lengthened when fired.

    My 1903 is a little newer (Remington 1943) and all the fired cases, when measured with a Hornady Headspace tool, show very close to spec'd headspace for 30-06.