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Any chance you'll mill a 1.5" dovetail into the bottom of that chassis?
I love the 7 SAUM for a short action cartridge that encroaches on long action cartridge performance, will the 7mm Xiphos be above and beyond the SAUM and how will it do with short action magazines that cap out around 2.95ish in length?
What's up with the AT-ST (Star Wars reference) foot on that chassis, looks like it's going to hop away
Hi,
The issue with cutting that dovetail as integral part of the chassis forend is what happens then when the dovetail gets banged/dinged, etc...then the entire forend has to be replaced instead of just the rail part.
Some people like smooth RRS rail, some like the "arca-lock", etc etc
In laymens terms just run your 7SAUM with 90k pressure numbers and note the ballistic difference.
Shit...now I have to watch Star Wars to get the reference, lol.
Sincerely,
Theis
The issue with cutting that dovetail as integral part of the chassis forend is what happens then when the dovetail gets banged/dinged, etc...then the entire forend has to be replaced instead of just the rail part.
Some people like smooth RRS rail, some like the "arca-lock", etc etc
In laymens terms just run your 7SAUM with 90k pressure numbers and note the ballistic difference.
Shit...now I have to watch Star Wars to get the reference, lol.
Sincerely,
Theis
What's up with the AT-ST (Star Wars reference) foot on that chassis, looks like it's going to hop away
Thanks... I can't un-see that now.
Oh Lawd. Don't mention that out loud. You going to lose street cred and "cool points". It would behoove a engineer/designer/cyber geek (what the fuck are you anyway?) who builds super duper future weaponry to have a solid knowledge of science fiction weaponry. In the future when you start building phased plasma rifles in the 40 watt range or E-11 blasters or Q-36 space modulators you have to have an idea to start with.
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Well... you make an excellent point which begs the question, is the bottom M-LOK compatible or similar for quick attach/detach of these different plate systems and parts? Please don't make it a proprietary attachment system
I don't have ballistics programs that work off pressure, but is there a formula for fps based on pressure? Either way, it sounds like the 7mm Xiphos will be a most impressive short action round!
You don't have to watch Star Wars, just watch The Mandalorian episode 4 and you'll see one of the chicken walkers
Your foot reminded me of the design of the walker feet.
My Mom threw away all my Star Wars stuff when she got mad at me one day when I was a teenager, I remind her it was her retirement as it was probably worth about $50,000 today
I do love watching the development of this system, the attention to detail, and the updates to this thread. I fear the final product will be so damn good that it will be cost prohibitive to casual shooters (specifically me). As much as I love what I am seeing here I love my kidneys more and likely will not sell one on the black market. Perhaps investing in scratch it lottery tickets will allow me a chance to purchase one of these fine systems once they are available.
Hi,
SHHHH, sometimes I have to act dumb in order to not violate my NDA with LucasFilms.....shhhh.
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Theis
Apologize if this has been asked and answered, but any chance the Hoplite rifles will have a QD barrel system like AI? Or put another way, how easy will it be to swap barrels?
Hi,
No apology needed even if it was asked 1 post ago.
Due to the concept of operating at higher pressures than industry standards (They are changing but way too slow, lol) we do not feel like putting an extra "link" in the weapon system that the higher pressures could cause problems with.
Barrels will change via barrel wrench method.
All the ones I have been shooting the past 3 weeks, I have been spinning barrels on/off by hand.
Sincerely,
Theis
No apology needed even if it was asked 1 post ago.
Due to the concept of operating at higher pressures than industry standards (They are changing but way too slow, lol) we do not feel like putting an extra "link" in the weapon system that the higher pressures could cause problems with.
Barrels will change via barrel wrench method.
All the ones I have been shooting the past 3 weeks, I have been spinning barrels on/off by hand.
Sincerely,
Theis
Just found this website (gotta love search engines) - http://closefocusresearch.com/calculating-barrel-pressure-and-projectile-velocity-gun-systems
Using the Spreadsheet (from the website above) I input the numbers for my current 7 SAUM with 180 Hybrids and adjusted correction factor to get my fps, assuming SAAMI psi at 65,000 and then adjusting to 90,000 psi yields an increase of 524fps! If the 7mm Xiphos is anywhere close to that kind of jump in fps... well that's a whole new ballgame.
| Calibers | 7 SAUM | 7 SAUM |
| D = Bore Diameter | 0.276 | 0.276 |
| L = Barrel Length | 26 | 26 |
| W = Projectile Weight | 180 | 180 |
| Calculate Projectile Velocity by entering the Barrel Pressure P | ||
| Calculated Velocity | 7 SAUM | 7 SAUM |
| P = Barrel Pressure | 65000 | 90000 |
| Vp = Projectile Velocity | 2964 | 3488 |
| E = Projectile Energy | 3511 | 4861 |
@THEIS For quick reference here is what the at-st looks like.
The foot looks more like the at-at foot. It's hard to remember which is which.
If you are going to watch Star Wars look for something called the despecialized edition. Closest you can get to the original theatrical releases.
The foot looks more like the at-at foot. It's hard to remember which is which.
If you are going to watch Star Wars look for something called the despecialized edition. Closest you can get to the original theatrical releases.
^^^ Good catch Lefty, I guess the foot does look more like the AT-AT but the mechanism just reminded me of the chicken walker
Last of the Star Wars talk I swear.^^^ Good catch Lefty, I guess the foot does look more like the AT-AT but the mechanism just reminded me of the chicken walker
There is actually a star wars vehicle that hat the chicken legs and the foot. If you don't know it, that's fine. It only really showed up in the games. It's the At-pt.
If we saw more Hoplite or discussion on the cool stuff that's not out yet we'd have less off topic stuff.
Personally I think that monopod (?) looks more like a ED-209 foot from Robocop.
You people are showing your age.
Like 3 generations of bodies out there saying to themselves "Fuck they're old"
Like 3 generations of bodies out there saying to themselves "Fuck they're old"
Hi,
Well, while we are putting the new chassis into production we are aggressively researching information on ammunition loading equipment while discussing with more knowledgeable people outside the Hoplite Arms walls in regards to precision processes in order to pair that with our knowledge of automation so that is absorbing a lot of time while the new chassis comes online.
Along with sourcing OEM ammunition components from various manufacturers from around the world....brass, powder, primers, ammo boxes, etc etc.
(This will be easier once some of the other countries open up for better travelling)
O and the ballistic application from our sister Genesis Ballistics Solutions is moving into the design and styling stages!!
Sadly, not everything in this industry is guns and titties....shot show pictures and videos are fake media, lolol
There is a lot of behind the scenes that deal with nothing but operations, coordination, negotiations, complications, irritations, confusions, celebrations, exhibitions, logistics, appreciations, etc etc
Sincerely,
Theis
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Most of the titties at SHOT are fake too.
For your high pressure rounds, will these only be available through Hoplite or will components be available for reloading? Also, when reloading we look for "pressure signs" but since your cartridges are designed to run at very high pressures, what signs do we look for to make sure we don't go over that pressure point?
Hi,
McCourt Munitions almost ready to ship me a few batches of their Testing Series loads.
Sincerely,
Theis
McCourt Munitions almost ready to ship me a few batches of their Testing Series loads.
Sincerely,
Theis
Nice! I see that you got some o’ them rainbow bullets I heared tell about.
Noo waaaay (in my best Nacho Libre voice), all those things, those are my favorite things. I love McCourt @FCS , great guy, he does my 7 SAUM and 6.5 Creedmoor hunting loads.
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They are those do not judge me bullets, I am what I say I am, lol....
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Theis
Hi,
300gr Bergers tucked in the CIP magazine.....
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Theis
300gr Bergers tucked in the CIP magazine.....
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Theis
Hi,
Firing pin sizes changed and settled...
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Theis
Firing pin sizes changed and settled...
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Theis
Okay, I have to ask, since you brought it up. Why .064 vs. .062? I assume that you did a lot of testing and your results led you here, but inquiring minds need to know.
Hi,
The more metal we can leave on the boltface to support the primer during detonation and have firing pin mass/speed to detonate the primer (why we utilize the spring specs we have); the better we can crank up pressures .
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Theis
The more metal we can leave on the boltface to support the primer during detonation and have firing pin mass/speed to detonate the primer (why we utilize the spring specs we have); the better we can crank up pressures
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Theis
DOH! My bad. I see that now.Hi,
It is not .064 vs .062.....it is .062 fitting through the .064
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Theis
Hi,
That receiver size is not even on the stove yet to be honest. It is sitting over on the counter.
Priority list Hoplite Arms:
PRODUCTION versions of the Kopis and Apsis with the new chassis.
Finalize T&E period on the Phalanx.
PRODUCTION version of the Phalanx with the new recoil mitigating chassis.
Launch the Training Division of Hoplite Arms.
Finalize T&E period of the High Pressure Cartridges for Kopis, Aspis and Phalanx models.
PRODUCTION versions of the High Pressure Cartridges.
Enter T&E phase for the 223 platform.
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Theis
That's it???
Hi,
Well, no...lol
Genesis Ballistics Solutions has its' own list.
ANN (Ares News Network) has its' own list.
International and National exhibitions, demos and meetings have their own list.
Oh Ohh, and taking care of the newly seeded grass at Hoplite office facility has its' own list.
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Theis
You need to crank out a couple dozen kids for the cheap labor. Name them Theis1, Theis2, etc. LOL
Hi,
Actually we have no children at all and it is definitely too late to start now, lol..but they could have been utilized on this project:
Before--
During--
After--
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Theis
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