131 gr ACE prototypes had more or less equivalent G7 BC of the 147 ELD M and can be pushed ~150 fps faster from same parent case. The production run of 131 gr ACE is 0.345 G7.
Less recoil, less drop, less wind.
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131 gr ACE prototypes had more or less equivalent G7 BC of the 147 ELD M and can be pushed ~150 fps faster from same parent case. The production run of 131 gr ACE is 0.345 G7.
Less recoil, less drop, less wind.
I may be missing something, but how is this diff than .35 Remington, other than it being a straight walled case?
Fits in a small frame AR.
Plus, there are states where you cannot use anything but straight walled cases to hunt deer. Crazy, yes, but that’s reality.
It's the 24th. Spill the beans already.
Fits in a small frame AR.
Plus, there are states where you cannot use anything but straight walled cases to hunt deer. Crazy, yes, but that’s reality.
Ok.... that’s pretty cool. I hope it does well. On paper it looks really similar to the .35 Remmy.... and with the added capacity of an AR, it should be a really good brush setup.
As far as the states laws go.... I’ve got nothing. Laws like that don’t make sense. Easily the dumbest thing I’ve been exposed to today.... but it’s early, and I haven’t been around my co-workers yet.
That’s my thought too.
Michigan is one example. Excerpt from their rules:
Same here in Iowa. I don't deer hunt currently but with the new regulations allowing for 450 Bushmaster or 350 Legend, I might run out of excuses not to. 350 sounds like it might be the way to go since you're only swapping a barrel.
@lash this is how that reads in my head.
Hank Hill voice:
“So.... you can carry one bow with one arrow, and one crossbow, but no bolt. DO NOT GET CAUGHT WITH A BOLT FOR YOUR CROSSBOW.
Also, you can take a rifle. We want you to make big holes in things, so .35 cal is a minimum, but all cartridges must be in straight walled case.... we’re straight around here. None of that Gay Tiger bottle necked B.S. around here.... no sir....
Also, to keep kills humane, your cases have to be at least 1.16” long, but no longer than 1.80” long, because we want the deer to be dead, not extra dead.”
Hank Hill voice:
“So.... you can carry one bow with one arrow, and one crossbow, but no bolt. DO NOT GET CAUGHT WITH A BOLT FOR YOUR CROSSBOW.
Also, you can take a rifle. We want you to make big holes in things, so .35 cal is a minimum, but all cartridges must be in straight walled case.... we’re straight around here. None of that Gay Tiger bottle necked B.S. around here.... no sir....
Also, to keep kills humane, your cases have to be at least 1.16” long, but no longer than 1.80” long, because we want the deer to be dead, not extra dead.”
Check the 4dof program on hornadys website. They have a 6mm Proto Y bullet that works out to like a .290 G7, and 30 cal Proto X 225 gr that has a ridiculous BC.
https://www.youtube.com/user/hornadymanufacturing
They are going to aluminum tips. New bullet line called ATip. It just got posted to the YouTube page.
They are going to aluminum tips. New bullet line called ATip. It just got posted to the YouTube page.
They have been doing that on the .50cal AMAX for quite awhile haven't they ?
So expanding that to other smaller match bullets I'm guessing.
Impressive, though with all the packaging I fear these are going to be considerably more $$$
For that money I could buy 250 Bergers and still be a shitty shooter.
Straight from Hornady sales. I'm sure street price will be lower, but still probably much much higher than bergers.
Anybody else find it kinda funny that he said that “... you might even see some grease on them.”, followed by “so we’re sending you a bag. You can roll them around in there, and get excited about going to the range.”, to also be followed by “they are sexy.”
I dunno... maybe it’s the Army humor. They might need a few more vets there in the editing room to catch stuff like that.
In all seriousness, I’d be interested in those 135’s if they are priced competitively with the Berger’s.
I dunno... maybe it’s the Army humor. They might need a few more vets there in the editing room to catch stuff like that.
In all seriousness, I’d be interested in those 135’s if they are priced competitively with the Berger’s.
Retail at a $0.75 a bullet?!
Well, if you're going to get bent over at least it's #justthetip....
...and they left a little lube on there for ya too.
Well, if you're going to get bent over at least it's #justthetip....
...and they left a little lube on there for ya too.
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Wait, it is or is not the Atip?
Heres a more in depth video on the A tip someone posted in the reloading section
I like it, and am interested from a pure engineering/geekiness perspective. It'll certainly be entertaining to see how these things shoot in the real world.
My personal philosophy on shooting, though, is such that I have no use for projectiles that have not been designed with some sort of consideration towards terminal performance. I certainly get jealous seeing the BCs mentioned for these projectiles (as well as some lathe-turned solid projectiles), but I just cannot bring myself to not care about terminal performance on something other than paper/steel. To me, possibly the coolest thing about long distance shooting is not the idea of simply hitting or making a hole through something, but rather in transferring a massive amount of energy to that thing.
That said, it's still great to see these sorts of advancements because it not only indicates that there are companies out there investing in developing products for the sport/activity that we all enjoy, but there also exists the possibility of technology trickle-down similar to what we see in the automotive world where many of the technologies and applications that are first pursued for competitive advantage on the race track eventually bring their benefits to the street in cars that Joe and Jane American can actually afford. Good stuff!
My personal philosophy on shooting, though, is such that I have no use for projectiles that have not been designed with some sort of consideration towards terminal performance. I certainly get jealous seeing the BCs mentioned for these projectiles (as well as some lathe-turned solid projectiles), but I just cannot bring myself to not care about terminal performance on something other than paper/steel. To me, possibly the coolest thing about long distance shooting is not the idea of simply hitting or making a hole through something, but rather in transferring a massive amount of energy to that thing.
That said, it's still great to see these sorts of advancements because it not only indicates that there are companies out there investing in developing products for the sport/activity that we all enjoy, but there also exists the possibility of technology trickle-down similar to what we see in the automotive world where many of the technologies and applications that are first pursued for competitive advantage on the race track eventually bring their benefits to the street in cars that Joe and Jane American can actually afford. Good stuff!
PS Hornady is watching you have a wrong number for prices
Midsouth has them correctly listed
www.midsouthshooterssupply.com
$70/100 vs the numbers posted
Midsouth has them correctly listed
New Hornady A-Tip MATCH Bullets at Midsouth Shooters
New Hornady A-Tip MATCH Bullets at Midsouth Shooters
www.midsouthshooterssupply.com
$70/100 vs the numbers posted
Don't see the 6.5 offers being that much better than their closest ELD counterparts to justify the price difference, but the 230 gr .30 ATIP looks like a big improvement (.777 vs .823) and will go nice with the 300 PRC.
Hornady A-TIP Match Bullets 375 Cal (375 Diameter) 390 Grain Boat Tail
The Hornady A-Tip Match bullet is the result of years of research and testing by the Hornady Ballistic Development Group, combined with an investment in...
www.midwayusa.com
How is 70 cents twice as much as 62 cents ?
If the Bergers list for 62 and the Hornady is 70 how is twice as much you guys are drama queens
If the Bergers list for 62 and the Hornady is 70 how is twice as much you guys are drama queens
