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Jzilla Hibernation Hustle @ Barber in February...

Thats a bit early for me LOL. Last time I did a February track day it was 33 and raining/snowing...

Their event looks like it was $600 this year. I dont know how far off of that Chin is. My deal with going with Chin is when I travel 10+ hours to get somewhere I want to know EXACTLY what type of an event is going to be put on and Chin does such a great job its hard to want to travel 10 hours to run with any other organizer.
 
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Tempus Fugit!!!! Our grandson 4 years later with our ‘26 T and ‘68 C10….
 

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Got the opportunity to drive a fairly rare vehicle (now that they've all rusted away) this week. The amount of interaction vintage cars need to be properly piloted almost makes it feel like work. In a good way.
Just another experience that makes me despise modern cars even more.
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Very clean looking 914. You don't see those anymore!
 
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Very clean looking 914. You don't see those anymore!
It's got plenty of honest wear and tear when you get close, but no rust. The first car I've driven where finding a gear, especially the one you want, is a major accomplishment! And it had a rebuilt linkage, the owner said shifting was a real roll of the dice prior to that.
 
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Got the opportunity to drive a fairly rare vehicle (now that they've all rusted away) this week. The amount of interaction vintage cars need to be properly piloted almost makes it feel like work. In a good way.
Just another experience that makes me despise modern cars even more.
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Getting a workout from a vehicle is absolutely awesome…from a track/weekend/nice weather car. If I had to deal with that shit on any sort of long commute I’d go insane. The beautiful thing about modern cars and technology is how easy it is to be fast. And obviously this is a bit of a double-edged sword but a drive home from work can be as engaging or as bland as you want it to be. But still, race car

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My wife bought a new Ford Ranger Raptor. Ford Performance came out with a tune that bumps the HP to 455 and the torque to 536 ft/lbs. It’s about the most fun you can have with your clothes on…

John



I’d love to have either a raptor or tremor package truck but I need something bigger, like at least an F250. And depending how our plans in the next year unfold I may need an F350. So something like this F350 Megarexx would be amazing

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Cliffs: TLDR

Wife and I have been shopping for a 3 row mid size SUV. Thought we kinda settled into the Toyota Grand Highlander hybrid based on all reviews, MPG, etc... Finally found a used one at a Toyota dealership to go test drive. Drives fine, size fine, features, looks, etc... Sales guy already knew we werent buying that one so no pressure. We start discussing "how do I get on the list for a new one" and that isnt to bad 90-120 day wait, 1k down, etc...

Here's were things go off the rails. The car is built with only 2 factory options(360 camera and pano roof). Those are fine. Then the "port" adds a ton of shit that I dont want to the tune of, from what we could tell, generally 3-4k more. Then the dealer(and most Toyota and other dealers are this way today) have a mandatory $1299 package of shit they add on also. And all of that(port and dealer add) are mandatory and the port options are "random" and when your car shows up(the color and trim you want) its take it or leave it and wait for another one, meanwhile they have your money. I dont like that process and simply dont understand why I cant order what I want. I actually wanted a few of the things where as others(roof rails, tow hitch, premium carpet mats, etc...) I have no desire to have because I will never use them or replace them immediately. So what we figured out when we got home was you could get a car to show up that was anywhere from 58k(+ dealer add) to 62k(+ dealer add) and anywhere in between. Then add on to that no good financing rates so I am guessing ~7% according to bank rate. Then they probably fuck you on your trade because they have you by the balls on the new car in the "take it or leave it" situation.

TLDR: I'm going to look at a 24 Yukon SLT 5.3 thats pretty loaded up minus sunroof for 64k this morning... At "about" the same price as we figure a Grand Highlander will be at the end of the day we get a full size SUV with body on frame, pretty bullet proof 5.3, 10L80 is proving out to be pretty good, etc... MPG sucks at ~17 vs. ~31 for the Grand Highlander hybrid, but best guess is its about $75-85 a month which isnt the end of the world.
 
Agree completely that Toyota's sales model is utter shit.

We went through similar asspain trying to find a new 2024 Sienna Hybrid (which are on lots practically nowhere within 200 miles of our home). We ended up finding a Limited that arrived on a Saturday unsold (due to trim/cost) and was still on the lot Monday and my wife was able to get the price down a couple grand because it was the last day of the month for sales. All the while, they were trying to get us into a 2023 lease turn-in that wasn't much cheaper than the brand new van.

I was told Sienna inventory is super light because the same Hybrid drivetrain is in higher volume vehicles like Camry, Highlander, etc etc. I can understand dealers don't want a lot of inventory that isn't turning over, but when Honda as 20 Odysseys and Toyota has one Sienna arriving in a couple days it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to know who is going to get sales.
 
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Other things we have looked at:
Explorer limited with 2.3t... not as big and 22mpg... 55k bucks.
Expedition limited... couldnt get them under 70k realistically which is out of our budget
Jeep GC-L Summit... 65k after discounts...23mpg... shit ass Jeep quality. there is a reason they are 20k off MSRP.
Palisade/Telluride... lots of engine and trans issues being reported(my buddies is burning 1qt in 500miles I think he said). 20mpg... 55k+
Pilot... boring as shit re-design. not as big as grand highlander. 55k+. v6 gets like 20mpg maybe...
GV80... nice but not that big and same 60k+ price point. Same issues as Hyundai/Kia.
X7... way to expensive plus BMW and all its faults(were still butt hurt over the various quirks our 330H had)
Q7... to expensive and didnt feel any bigger than the Explorer/Palisade

While I dont "love" the 17mpg fuelly and the various forums report on the Yukon, I think the longevity is there, the price is right for a full size body on frame truck, etc... Rode in one a few weeks ago on a trip and I saw the odometer was like 285k miles and the damn interior looked brand new. Black exterior had the same scratches a 5k mile black truck has. I asked the driver(who was the company owner) how he liked it and he said "bullet proof" and "nobody drives this truck but me and I keep it clean and under good repair"... They put 50k+ miles a year on "tahoe/suburban" and have few issues.