How do you identify Seal fakes

#6
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lol, the swim buddy thing is ok but not a sure thing, i couldn't tell you all mine. i think the newest class in bud/s is like 281'ish. so if they give you some crazy number like 313 or like 11 then he's full of shit. ask him what team he was with, if he says six then he's full of shit. ask him what he did in the teams, if he says "top secret" he's full of shit. if he says he was one of the snipers on that boat, he's full of shit, lol.

its pretty easy if you know a little about the teams. i've outed about 5-6 fakes in san diego alone, you would think you wouldn't fake that where there really is the whole west coast teams hanging out and you really have no idea if there is a real one standing behind you.
 
#8
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BUDS Class number, swim buddies name good start,

Also ask him a few real simple questions, like this:

What is a USN MK2? He should definently know what that is without thinking twice.

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See if he can tell you, then ask why is the paracord wrapped on the handle?

See if he can tell you that. (It's because the freaking hours of submersion in saltwater dry rots the leather Camillus uses) It's some old school shit but he should know.

Sometimes the simple questions are the ones that will force out the fakes.

I had a guy try to tell me one time that he went to BUDS in Colorado, dumb shit didn't know the differance between Colorado and Coranado.
 
#10
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">that MK2 shit is old school, i bet you ask 80 percent of frogs in right now they wouldn't know that. </div></div>

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That blade, has done the deed more than a few times. It was issue to a great friend and mentor EMC Travers (DV) as a UDT and has gone from UDT to SEAL to EOD before being handed down to me. Thing is like 40 years old and I have had it for 20 of them and it's still kicking. I do not use it for anything anymore but I will always keep it to remind me of the repeated ass kickings I recieved from this man on my path.

 
#12
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: T.J. PILLING</div><div class="ubbcode-body">he tells everyone that he is a Navy Seal. </div></div>

That alone tells me he is not. The real deal does not need/want to broadcast it. They don't give a shit if you like them or are impressed by them.
 
#13
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that is just sad. as much as i admire and respect people in all branches, and wanted to join, the thought of faking something like that just woud never enter my mind. now i may be mistaken for a walrus, but i could never pass for a seal. out the guy in public. he does disservice not only to the entire military, but to those who didnt have the honor of serving as well.

how far do seals have to swim in training? the longest distance? take him for a boatride. see if he makes it back or begs forgiveness when you drop him over the side. or am i being too harsh?
 
#15
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AXEMAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">now i may be mistaken for a walrus, but i could never pass for a seal. </div></div>

That's the line of the day. Well-played, sir. Well-played indeed.
 
#17
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WICKEDFISH</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ask him about FROG HOGS, they are like fucking groupies. Shankster would have made a really good Navy man. </div></div>

Bwaahahahahah......now that's funny!
 
#18
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> i've outed about 5-6 fakes in san diego alone, you would think you wouldn't fake that where there really is the whole west coast teams hanging out and you really have no idea if there is a real one standing behind you. </div></div>

You think san diego is bad, you should come out to virginia beach
 
#20
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TJ, you could just beat it out of him. There arent too many guys I wouldnt fuck with. You just happen to be one of em.
 
#22
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AXEMAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
how far do seals have to swim in training? the longest distance? take him for a boatride. see if he makes it back or begs forgiveness when you drop him over the side. or am i being too harsh?</div></div>

That may not be a good indicator. We (SAR Swimmer) mimicked much, if not all (including the 5 mile open ocean swim with fins, mask and Mae West), of the BUDs non-SCUBA (open or closed) swim training and I probably couldn't do 1/10 of what I did then although I'll drown trying if you throw me overboard.
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#23
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: T.J. PILLING</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Any ideas as to how you can find out if a guy was really a Navy Seal? I guy is trying to worm his way into a relationship with a friend and he tells everyone that he is a Navy Seal. His sh*t don't add up. </div></div>

make sure you update us and pm me his name. ive had a run in or two with guys local acting like seals. (doesnt work well when they are 18 19 20 at the time) curious if its the same and still doing it
 
#25
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Couple of other good questions to ask: Where is the "steel pier"? and where did you do "night time rock portage"? I don't believe I've ever see either on a documentary. I don't know how many classes they run through a year now but back in class 198 I believe there were 3 a year and that was in late 1994.... do the math.
 
#26
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I am no SEAL but I have known quite a few. In my observation a SEAL will never brag. I've run into a few liars from time to time that claim to be a SEAL..(They brag about themselves, thats the sure fire way to spot a poser).I'm lookin for oportunities to catch them in their lies.. I hate liars!....I was NAVY and they earned that trident badge....Don't put up with turds pretending to be the elite!.........SmokeRolls
 
#27
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ace31</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> i've outed about 5-6 fakes in san diego alone, you would think you wouldn't fake that where there really is the whole west coast teams hanging out and you really have no idea if there is a real one standing behind you. </div></div>

You think san diego is bad, you should come out to virginia beach </div></div>

oh don't worry my friend been there too, many a time
 
#28
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Had a young kid come into the tattoo shop i worked in and asked me what we could we do to this. It was the large outline of a trident, i asked why he didn't have it colored already. The kid said he only lasted 2 days and was injured then discharged. I worked on a farm and know what b/s smells like. I talked to the other fellow who was in fact him self on a team. end result was young dip shit walked out with a large black square on his arm and it cost him i think $150. One down how many to go
 
#29
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AXEMAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...now i may be mistaken for a walrus, but i could never pass for a seal. </div></div>
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Me too.
 
#30
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: T.J. PILLING</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Any ideas as to how you can find out if a guy was really a Navy Seal? I guy is trying to worm his way into a relationship with a friend and he tells everyone that he is a Navy Seal. His sh*t don't add up. </div></div>

If he tells people he was a navy seal - he is probably NOT.

The only 2 I ever met said something about being operators...and they were VERY vague about it - and I know they were real because it was a Navy Diver here on base that told me "Yeah he was a teacher at the seal school"....

If they talk about it, odds are they are not.
 
#31
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Steel pier, drown proofing, Lion's lope, beehive, Ole misery, sugar cookie, rock portage... all terms that anyone who has been to BUDS should be familiar with. Then ask him what the "grinder" is. If he tells you its an Italian sandwich, kick him in the balls.
 
#32
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#36
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gugubica</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: T.J. PILLING</div><div class="ubbcode-body">he tells everyone that he is a Navy Seal. </div></div>

That alone tells me he is not. The real deal does not need/want to broadcast it. They don't give a shit if you like them or are impressed by them. </div></div>

Sometimes..
A good friend of mine has his SEAL Team stickers on both cars, wears the "Seal Jesus" shirts all the F'n time and has a set uf Buds on the valve covers of one of his streat rods.
He has several deployments under his belt and is well known in the Teams.
Real clandestine sort of dude......LOL
I do love the shirts and have been given SEAL permission to wear them. That cracks me up even more.
 
#38
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Just ask the dude, how did he get into BUDS. Get him to detail his trek from going into boot to starting BUDS. This can be dependent on where he went to bootcamp and how he enlisted. Let me know where he went to bootcamp, where he went right after bootcamp, and what was his company number for bootcamp (I still remember mine). If he is bullshitting I can tell you. If this dude says he went to BUDS straight from boot, drive a nail through his scrotum, if he tries to tell you he enlisted as a SEAL, drive two nails through his scrotum. (There was a thing called, enlisting with a SEAL guarantee). This is where you went to boot camp in Orlando (closed now) and you were in a company where every guy there was trying to get into the diving program (Diver, EOD, or SEAL) and your "guarantee" was, that by the end of boot, you had the chance to "TRY OUT" for the program you wanted into (Diver, EOD, SEAL). You did not have to go to the fleet first and then apply for Diver, EOD, or BUDS and deal with the waiting. You got your shot right at the end of boot. That is the only way you got a head start. But then you still went to A school and maybe even some fleet time before you made it to BUDS. It could take a year or more before you even made it to Coranado to begin BUDS.
 
#39
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Wow, makes me wonder why someone would be so stupid as to say they were a SEAL.

What the hell is the illusion? Anyone with half a brain knows these guys come out half dead and earned their place and would rip them a new ass for bragging about it.

I love the Navy Divers here on base - they are all pretty closed off - but to eachother they laugh and you can see the comradrie.


each year for the bathtub race, sponsored by the base, the CO/XO and affairs officer ask me to go ride with them to set the course up..only after the second year could I get in on the humor - and toss it back at them...

(When you tell them a bathtub can go in this water so their dive boat can too they get the bravado symptoms) - awesome guys.

These are divers and they too go through hell to get their dive certifications - now add BUDS to it?

Holy shit batman...


Will say this much, diver, SEAL, or EOD - their professionalism gives away their reality.
 
#42
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">there is now a way to go straight from bootcamp to BUD/s but this is a recent development like in the last two years. </div></div>

Yea, see I'm an old dog, the last company to go through Orlando that could do the "guarantee" deal for Diver, EOD or SEAL, if I remember correctly, an I bet I do
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was C900 DV. Things, I'm sure, have changed quite a bit. So, all that said, if he is out now, as a SEAL it is a minimum 6 year enlistment, so this new development would still have not been in place. I'm still waving the BS flag.
 
#43
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#45
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As far as the straight to BUDs thing from boot camp they had that back in the early 90's in Great Lakes. You were "guaranteed" an opportunity to take the test for it. If you passed the test, you were GTG. I remember that all of the "water" schools, i.e. BUDs, Diver, EOD, RS had extra PT they had to do to prepare for the "test". But supposedly the guys that passed the BUDs entry test was guaranteed an opportunity to go to BUDs although they may have had to go to their "A" school first.
 
#46
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As far as the straight to BUDs thing from boot camp they had that back in the early 90's in Great Lakes. You were "guaranteed" an opportunity to take the test for it. If you passed the test, you were GTG. I remember that all of the "water" schools, i.e. BUDs, Diver, EOD, RS had extra PT they had to do to prepare for the "test". But supposedly the guys that passed the BUDs entry test was guaranteed an opportunity to go to BUDs although they may have had to go to their "A" school first. </div></div>

Yep, should have been "A" school first. I think, (note I said "I think", I was trying to look into it some but I was having very little luck, before I spouted off about the way it was vs the was it is...
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) they moved it from Orlando to Great Lakes in the early 90's when they stopped offering it in Orlando right before the closing. I have been out of touch for some time on the way it works now. It was more PT and prepared everyone for the test, there were SEALS, EOD, and Diver guys there that supervised the training and testing. Everything seemed a little more stict and geared differently than regular fleet guys. Plus, extra time was put in at night, after lights out doing push ups and pull ups on racks, whatever could be done to increase your chances of success. If you made the test you were into which ever it was you were slotted for, Diver school, EOD school or BUDS,(Diver test was easier than EOD test, EOD test was easier than BUDS test) but back then you went to A school before reporting for duty at Diver, EOD or BUDS, unless for some reason you could not get into your A school within a reasonable amount of time. I knew no one that happened to. If you were finished with your A school before your BUDS or whatever rotation came around, you did a little fleet time at some misc BS stuff they could dig up for you (Guard Duty on base....lol..ship time....whatever).
 
#49
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A good bud of mine, 6 years a seal, now an Arkansas farm boy...Quietest and most inoffensive guy you could ever have the pleasure to meet.. Married to a woman from Cork, ireland... This dude would cut you head off with a plastic knife and push it up your ass... real seals , ex or serving never brag... Ask him what branch of the service he was in and his standard reply is always just "Navy"...

met a few D-Boys as well. One of them tried to tell me he was a clerk.....!
 
#50
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Most of the SEAL's I knew while I was on AD (very few) were quiet guys. They never bragged about it or brought it up. Great group of guys, anyone should consider themselves fortunate enough to know one.

Posers are shite. I despise them.
 
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