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Rifle Scopes IATACR 7-35 OR Zero Compromise

Shoot house Window that’s 8x4” and only the gun will fit through.

Free recoiling off a bag and the scope moves and you miss an impact because of the smaller field of view.

I can go on. And for the record yes someone was arguing the kahles field of view was similar to the Schmidt. Hence why I posted these pics to illustrate the difference. The kahles is an awesome scope mechanically. Optically I think there are better engineered scopes out there.

It is “similar.”

Hahahahahahahaha @ free recoiling a 6 is gonna move you off enough that you can’t spot your miss.

1: free recoil almost always comes with the risk of not spotting your miss. This is why most any instructor out there advises against it in high winds

2: that small amount of difference isn’t going to be the difference in seeing or not seeing your shot. Especially since you’re going to be at a 10-15x
 
Dude you asked for me to give you an example of where field of view would make a practical difference. I gave you 2. Having more field of view allows me to zoom in more while maintaining the same field of view.

And yes I free recoiled today with a 6 BR that weighs 20+ lbs. and at 18x+ at 420 yards it moves you off view to miss a hit. I was shooting a 3” plate off a bag. Now imagine a creedmoor with a dtac or 147. If your position is unstable it just makes matter worse.
 
Dude you asked for me to give you an example of where field of view would make a practical difference. I gave you 2. Having more field of view allows me to zoom in more while maintaining the same field of view.

And yes I free recoiled today with a 6 BR that weighs 20+ lbs. and at 18x+ at 420 yards it moves you off view to miss a hit. I was shooting a 3” plate off a bag. Now imagine a creedmoor with a dtac or 147. If your position is unstable it just makes matter worse.

Again, you’re illiustrating a problem with free recoil, not minor differences in FOV
 
Ok you win. There’s no difference. FOV should not be considered when purchasing a scope. They are all basically the same.

No one said there wasn’t a difference. You can read my review on the k525i where I address this.

The difference is of the level of personal preference, not within the realm of practicality. Perfectly fine for you or anyone else to prefer another optic based on the field of view. But don’t lie to yourself that it’s going to make the difference between cleaning a stage or not.

And using free recoil as an example is absolutely terrible. You have nothing behind the gun to mitigate recoil. Are you suggesting your Schmidt with 2 extra mils allows you to spot your hit/miss (one the far edge of the optic at that point)?
 
No one said there wasn’t a difference. You can read my review on the k525i where I address this.

The difference is of the level of personal preference, not within the realm of practicality. Perfectly fine for you or anyone else to prefer another optic based on the field of view. But don’t lie to yourself that it’s going to make the difference between cleaning a stage or not.

I’m not saying you’re wrong. In your personal situation and shooting style im
Sure it makes no difference to you. To me and my shooting style I do notice a difference. To each his own

And using free recoil as an example is absolutely terrible. You have nothing behind the gun to mitigate recoil. Are you suggesting your Schmidt with 2 extra mils allows you to spot your hit/miss (one the far edge of the optic at that point)?

In certain situations yes it does. Ultimately it allows me to get away with more magnification vs the kahles which allows me to see more detail and focus on the target more.
 
As promised. Schmidt 5-25 and a kahles 525i same day same distance at 25x. As you can see the Schmidt has significantly more FOV


Forgive me, and I'm not trying to open a can of worms based on a picture, but can the clarity difference in both pics be chalked up to the parallax of Kahles not properly dialed? or just the camera not as focused for the Kahles? You can see the impacts better on the S&B pic.
I have an S&B 5-25 and a Kahles 6-24, and I feel like my S&B is better, as far as image clarity, but I do love my Kahles. I'll just have to get to the range and side by side them.

Scott
 
Forgive me, and I'm not trying to open a can of worms based on a picture, but can the clarity difference in both pics be chalked up to the parallax of Kahles not properly dialed? or just the camera not as focused for the Kahles? You can see the impacts better on the S&B pic.
I have an S&B 5-25 and a Kahles 6-24, and I feel like my S&B is better, as far as image clarity, but I do love my Kahles. I'll just have to get to the range and side by side them.

Scott

Never trust clarity from a behind the scope pic they are very deceiving. They are only useful for comparing the reticle at different mags and field of view that’s about it. Clarity of both scopes at 420-600 yards was a total wash. I could see the same of everything basically the same between the two. I also owned the 624 kahles. The 525 has much better glass and way less CA. I’d compare the 624 to like a gen 2 razor maybe. Maybe even worse because of the CA. The kahles 525 is def our ahead of the razor for glass quality.
 
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No. Retail is around 4700 I believe. That’s MAP. If you call around to some vendors you could get one maybe a little less. I doubt below 4500 though

I feel fairly confident in saying that if I was ready to make the purchase, I could get into one for well under 4500..
 
On the original question, I was in the same boat and had CS Tactical change my order from ZCO to a 7-35 with the Mil-XT reticle. I really like the look of the Mil-XT, and the added magnification is a bonus, so I'm excited to get hands on it. That said, I told Richard I'll almost certainly still order a ZCO when I next have some spare cash as they look excellent as well.
 
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Have owned a 7-35, and currently own a couple zcomps.

Answer these questions and I’ll can tell you which one you’ll probably like more:

Which reticle do you like more:
Mil-c
Mil-xt
H59
Tremor 3
Mpct1
Mpct2

If you like multiple reticles, just list them

Do you prefer ocular moving or not moving with the magnification ring?

Do you need 10m parallax or is 25m fine?

Prefer low profile or high profile turrets?

Prefer locking turrets?

Does auto off illumination matter to you?

You forget completely user adjustable ZS setting...a very important feature for some that shoot MC rifles
 
Shoot house Window that’s 8x4” and only the gun will fit through.

Free recoiling off a bag and the scope moves and you miss an impact because of the smaller field of view.

I can go on. And for the record yes someone was arguing the kahles field of view was similar to the Schmidt. Hence why I posted these pics to illustrate the difference. The kahles is an awesome scope mechanically. Optically I think there are better engineered scopes out there.


OK lets step back in time:

The OP asked about "IATACR 7-35 OR Zero Compromise"
you wrote:
FOV is my only really gripe about the kahles 525. It’s awful compared to the others.

I know by comparing the ZC0 and K525 they have similar FOV at max power yep, max power... When I shoot a match I am not bitching that I am on 13x vrs someone 14x or whatever, it is splitting straws.. Hell, I probably shoot al lower powers by default anyway. I shoot most targets NRL22 matches at 8x, most center fire around 12x... I do well and do not think I would win more if I was 2x or whatever higher in magnification.

MY 7-35 was truly like looking thru a straw, similar to the Sightron. My older SB Tunnels severly and the FOV is not greater at the powers I use, than my Kahles. -- no matter how you slice it the Kahles, is NOT "awful compared to the others".

Yes, I used the MFG listed numbers to so that the Scopes other than the 7-35 are in the same relative ballpark.. If the MFG numbers for S&B are wrong, bad on them.. But even with your images the Kahles is not awful and certainly not to the 7-35 the OP asked about.. I sold mine quickly. Going round and round trying to defend the statement It’s awful compared to the others just isn't productive.

Anyway thanks for taking the pictures.. They came out nice btw - never been able to get my iphone to take a good thru the glass image.
 
OK lets step back in time:

The OP asked about "IATACR 7-35 OR Zero Compromise"
you wrote:


I know by comparing the ZC0 and K525 they have similar FOV at max power yep, max power... When I shoot a match I am not bitching that I am on 13x vrs someone 14x or whatever, it is splitting straws.. Hell, I probably shoot al lower powers by default anyway. I shoot most targets NRL22 matches at 8x, most center fire around 12x... I do well and do not think I would win more if I was 2x or whatever higher in magnification.

MY 7-35 was truly like looking thru a straw, similar to the Sightron. My older SB Tunnels severly and the FOV is not greater at the powers I use, than my Kahles. -- no matter how you slice it the Kahles, is NOT "awful compared to the others".

Yes, I used the MFG listed numbers to so that the Scopes other than the 7-35 are in the same relative ballpark.. If the MFG numbers for S&B are wrong, bad on them.. But even with your images the Kahles is not awful and certainly not to the 7-35 the OP asked about.. I sold mine quickly. Going round and round trying to defend the statement It’s awful compared to the others just isn't productive.

Anyway thanks for taking the pictures.. They came out nice btw - never been able to get my iphone to take a good thru the glass image.

My 735 is the same way. Much less "tube" in the image. Very similar to what the Schmidt looks like above compared to the Kahles. We are talking 3000 dollar plus optics. None of them are AWFUL. However when you stack them all up side by side (which I have on several occasions) the Kahles has the lowest field of view and gives the sensation of "looking through a straw" compared to the others. All the other scopes look quite similar in their mid mag range in terms of image size. Compared to the other 3000+ dollar optics, yes the Kahles is "terrible". Is it usable? Yea sure, so is a PST II. Is it worst in class? Yes, it is. And I think it deserves highlighting this difference. Just because it doesn't bother you much doesn't make it fact. I'm simply pointing out objectively the reality of the situation. I've attached some side by side with a 735 and you'll see just how much bigger the image is in the 735 next to the kahles, both in terms of FOV and in terms of less black edge you see inside the tube. It's very difficult to capture the black tube effect in a camera. It's much more apparent in person. I've had others compare to the Kahles as well and they all agree it has that "straw/small screen TV" feel to it when looking through compared to other scopes in this price range including the 735 and ZCO. I will say the 735 has a tight ass eyebox compared to the other scopes as well.

And yes getting those pics wasn't easy haha. Had to take a few to get them right, especially with the tight eyebox on the 735
 

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OK lets step back in time:

The OP asked about "IATACR 7-35 OR Zero Compromise"
you wrote:


"FOV is my only really gripe about the kahles 525. It’s awful compared to the others."

OK, Let's step back in time and look what my first reply was in this thread....

I just bought a 7-35. From what I’ve seen of the ZCO (personally and through the opinions of several friends) and the price they are at I’d personally choose the 7-35 or splurge for a TT. Of course this is all relative to the price you pay. I just picked up a used 7-35 mil c for 2800. Doubt you’ll find many used ZCO at a bargain. As stated above best bang for your buck right now is the PM2 used on the exchange.

Please stop distorting the truth to try and discredit me and serve your agenda. Thanks.
 
My 735 is the same way. Much less "tube" in the image. Very similar to what the Schmidt looks like above compared to the Kahles. We are talking 3000 dollar plus optics. None of them are AWFUL. However when you stack them all up side by side (which I have on several occasions) the Kahles has the lowest field of view and gives the sensation of "looking through a straw" compared to the others. All the other scopes look quite similar in their mid mag range in terms of image size. Compared to the other 3000+ dollar optics, yes the Kahles is "terrible". Is it usable? Yea sure, so is a PST II. Is it worst in class? Yes, it is. And I think it deserves highlighting this difference. Just because it doesn't bother you much doesn't make it fact. I'm simply pointing out objectively the reality of the situation. I've attached some side by side with a 735 and you'll see just how much bigger the image is in the 735 next to the kahles, both in terms of FOV and in terms of less black edge you see inside the tube.

And yes getting those pics wasn't easy haha. Had to take a few to get them right

I owned the scopes we are discussing (but the ZCO is on order). I know first hand the 7-35 FOV at the same magnification is not greater than the Kahles, it is worse or the ZCO - bigger image has noting to do with it.

I hope you can easily see how misleading your images are.. The camera's own zoom (hence had to take thru the scope images makes your case.. but it is not correct. I trust the scopes I owned and shot.

If you can see what you did wrong in your images.. well
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I owned the scopes we are discussing (but the ZCO is on order). I know first hand the 7-35 FOV at the same magnification is not greater than the Kahles, it is worse or the ZCO - bigger image has noting to do with it.

I hope you can easily see how misleading your images are.. The camera's own zoom (hence had to take thru the scope images makes your case.. but it is not correct. I trust the scopes I owned and shot.

If you can see what you did wrong in your images.. well

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Dude.... COUNT THE MILS. The NF at the same mag has like 2 full mils more than the kahles at 25x.... This isn't rocket science. Even without counting the mils you can tell the NF image side to side is bigger (referencing a tree or tire or something else in the pic). How you are still denying fact is beyond me at this point.

I also own the scopes we are discussing. How do you think I'm taking these pics... I've got some through the scope ZCO pics too if you want those next. Like I'm not out to make you look bad. I'm just showing you facts. The Kahles FOV is LESS than both the schmidt and the NF735. Go ahead and count how many mils wide (you can convert this to length if you know the distance). All pics were taken at the same distance. I have no stake in any of this. I don't sell scopes for a living. I don't have a boner for any particular company. I think each scope out there has it's own strengths and weaknesses. For PRS the Kahles is a decent scope if you can get past the CA and lack of FOV. The 735 also makes a fine PRS scope if the tight eye box still works for you.
 
Dude.... COUNT THE MILS. The NF at the same mag has like 2 full mils more than the kahles at 25x.... This isn't rocket science. Even without counting the mils you can tell the NF image side to side is bigger (referencing a tree or tire or something else in the pic). How you are still denying fact is beyond me at this point.

I also own the scopes we are discussing. How do you think I'm taking these pics... I've got some through the scope ZCO pics too if you want those next. Like I'm not out to make you look bad. I'm just showing you facts. The Kahles FOV is LESS than both the schmidt and the NF735. Go ahead and count how many mils wide (you can convert this to length if you know the distance). All pics were taken at the same distance. I have no stake in any of this. I don't sell scopes for a living. I don't have a boner for any particular company. I think each scope out there has it's own strengths and weaknesses. For PRS the Kahles is a decent scope if you can get past the CA and lack of FOV. The 735 also makes a fine PRS scope if the tight eye box still works for you.


OMG you don't really know what you did incorrectly with the photos or the guessing what 25x (forget the zoom markings thats the same issue with SFP) is n the NF, do you..
 
Zooming in and out with the phone camera does nothing to change how many mils or field of view you see!!!! Dude, it's physics!
Really this is my last post, so you won't have to worry..

Yes they are both FFP so the mils on target to not change with distance or magnification, but the FOV does with magnification.

The issue has nothing to do with mills, it has to do with the fact that it is almost impossible to ensure the zoom ratio is anywhere close to correct dialed midway. You can't dial a non-mapped zoom and know the true power. As an example at max power on the 525 I get just over 7.2m like you show, but something like 24-23 (big guess here, I show just over 8mils like your image)

You can use non-magnified items from the camera lens to scale the picture itself. It isn't perfect, but it is far better than what the camera lens does as one tries to zoom in and out to focus different distances from the ocular. BTW I did do a stint as an architectural photographer for a living. I am not saying the fixed images are 100% accurate, but that clearly the zoom itself is not 100% the same in both scopes regardless of NF markings as they are about as accurate as their parallax markings.

Lets also state that you and I don't see this the same way, but that while I saw a few 7-35 in positional matches it seems they are far and few between now, seems a few others than me, believed the FOV and to thin reticle at lower power was an issue.. I do see a lot of Kahles though.. Again, I don't shoot at max power most my match shooting is around 10-12x & 15x-ish and thats is were the NF starts to suffer..
 
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Really this is my last post, so you won't have to worry..

Yes they are both FFP so the mils on target to not change with distance or magnification, but the FOV does with magnification.

The issue has nothing to do with mills, it has to do with the fact that it is almost impossible to ensure the zoom ratio is anywhere close to correct dialed midway. You can't dial a none-mapped zoom and know the true power. As an example at max power on the 525 I get just over 7.2m like you show, but something like 24-23 (big guess here, I show just over 8mils like your image)

You can use non-magnified items from the camera lens to scale the picture itself.It isn't perfect, but it is far better than what the camera lens does as one trys to zoom in and out to focus different distances from the ocular. BTW I did do a stint as an architectural photographer for a living. I am not saying the fixed images are 100% accurate, but that clearly the zoom itself is not 100% the same in both scopes regardless of NF markings as they are about as accurate as their parallax markings.

Lets also state that you and I don't see this the same way, but that while I saw a few 7-35 in positional matches it seems they are far and few between now, seem a few other than me believed the FOV was an issue.. I do see a lot of Kahles though.. Again, I don't shoot at max power most my match shooting is around 10-12x and thats is were the NF starts to suffer..

I'll get you a pic with a 5-25 ATACR tomorrow side by side bud. I know it's not apples to apples with a 735 but will illustrate my point between the NF and Kahles.

It's not the FOV that's an issue with the 7-35 for positional work. It's the eyebox as I discussed above.
 
Both the NF and S&B 5-25's have 16.x mils edge to edge @ 25x, where the 525i only has 14.x mils. Doing the math, the PMii & ATACR 5-25 have over 25% more viewable area at 25x than the Kahles does at 25x. I'd imagine the advantage remains pretty similar across most of the magnification range...
 
Having owned a 7-35, and looking through a ZCO at Piney when we were there, I would take the ZCO for sure.

The MilC is useful, but the ZCO reticle is much easier to read. The MilC was a bit difficult to read fast (shooting movers at the GAP match) because of the down/up/up/down points. The ZCO has the .2 AND a .5 for quick reference up top.

Personal preference I suppose. Optically and functionally, both are great scopes. But I would buy a ZCO.
 
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Both the NF and S&B 5-25's have 16.x mils edge to edge @ 25x, where the 525i only has 14.x mils. Doing the math, the PMii & ATACR 5-25 have over 25% more viewable area at 25x than the Kahles does at 25x. I'd imagine the advantage remains pretty similar across most of the magnification range...
Again - I am not bashing any of the 5-25s that was my point.. none are awful for positional, especially when compared to the 7-35 - the OP's question.

For an ELR scope?? Different ballgame. 7-35 has some legs there.

I know I said I am out, so I'll stop :)
 
OK lets step back in time:

The OP asked about "IATACR 7-35 OR Zero Compromise"
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I know by comparing the ZC0 and K525 they have similar FOV at max power yep, max power... When I shoot a match I am not bitching that I am on 13x vrs someone 14x or whatever, it is splitting straws.. Hell, I probably shoot al lower powers by default anyway. I shoot most targets NRL22 matches at 8x, most center fire around 12x... I do well and do not think I would win more if I was 2x or whatever higher in magnification.

MY 7-35 was truly like looking thru a straw, similar to the Sightron. My older SB Tunnels severly and the FOV is not greater at the powers I use, than my Kahles. -- no matter how you slice it the Kahles, is NOT "awful compared to the others".

Yes, I used the MFG listed numbers to so that the Scopes other than the 7-35 are in the same relative ballpark.. If the MFG numbers for S&B are wrong, bad on them.. But even with your images the Kahles is not awful and certainly not to the 7-35 the OP asked about.. I sold mine quickly. Going round and round trying to defend the statement It’s awful compared to the others just isn't productive.

Anyway thanks for taking the pictures.. They came out nice btw - never been able to get my iphone to take a good thru the glass image.

@Diver160651, can you expand on the "looking through a straw" comment. I'm about to pull the trigger on a NF 7-35, but your comments about the FOV have given me pause. I'll certainly be shooting positional stuff with the NF and have magnification around 15-20x, so FOV at that mag is important to me, as is eye-box.

I did see this excellent comparison from @spife7980, which seems to suggest the NF is pretty solid re FOV, and that the Kahles is indeed significantly worse than the competition. Also, which Sightron did you compare the NF to?


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I'm wondering if @koshkin can comment here re the FOV discrepancies noted in the tables in post #84 & #83. I'm not interested in calling anyone out or anything of the sort, but I am interested in accurate data. If the NF 7-35 is a handicap for positional stuff due to FOV I'd like to know before dropping 4.5K (AUD) on one. Cheers, BP
 
I'm wondering if @koshkin can comment here re the FOV discrepancies noted in the tables in post #84 & #83. I'm not interested in calling anyone out or anything of the sort, but I am interested in accurate data. If the NF 7-35 is a handicap for positional stuff due to FOV I'd like to know before dropping 4.5K (AUD) on one. Cheers, BP

I did not create these tables, so I do not know some of the calculations used. You have to go to the original source, so to speak.

I will say that the 10x and 15x FOVs in post #84 are mostly wrong.

7-35 ATACR has perfectly competitive FOV. It tunnels a little, roughly between 7x and 8.5x or thereabouts. Above 8.5x or so, its FOV is quite good.

It will be very interesting to see how it stacks up against the new 7-35x Mark 5 and the 5.5-30x56 XTR3.

I am not a magnification hog, so for me 35x vs 25x does not hold too much attraction. I would prefer a bit more FOV on low power, so 7-35x Nightforce is not hugely interesting to me. However, it is undoubtedly a nice scope and if 8x - 8.5x low end is sufficient for you, it is a good option.

ILya
 
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I don't have a ZCO but I have a couple NF 7-35's. At PRS magnification ranges it doesn't limit me as far as FOV in positional shooting. My only gripe with the scope is the ocular adjustment range is so large that it took me some extra time getting the reticle completely focused.
 
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I did not create these tables, so I do not know some of the calculations used. You have to go to the original source, so to speak.

I will say that the 10x and 15x FOVs in post #84 are mostly wrong.

7-35 ATACR has perfectly competitive FOV. It tunnels a little, roughly between 7x and 8.5x or thereabouts. Above 8.5x or so, its FOV is quite good.

It will be very interesting to see how it stacks up against the new 7-35x Mark 5 and the 5.5-30x56 XTR3.

I am not a magnification hog, so for me 35x vs 25x does not hold too much attraction. I would prefer a bit more FOV on low power, so 7-35x Nightforce is not hugely interesting to me. However, it is undoubtedly a nice scope and if 8x - 8.5x low end is sufficient for you, it is a good option.

ILya

Thanks @koshkin, I'm still weighing options. My most used scopes are a S&B 3-20 and a NF 4-16, but I've some time with a March 5-40 re the larger mag ranges. I do tend to prioritise FOV over absolute magnification, but I'm certainly interested in the NF 7-35, I'll try and get some time behind one before deciding which direction to go (for a PRS optic). I'm actually perfectly happy with my Bushnell XRS 2, 4.5-30, so my $ may be better spent on components :)
 
Regardless of personal opinions, none of the optics in the discussion will handicap you in PRS.

The 7-35, k525i, and 624i are very popular among shooters. I’d imagine zcomp will be as well as the year goes by.

I tend to agree, but it's equally important that personal opinions are based on factual data, which is what I'm trying to address in my most recent posts.
 
I tend to agree, but it's equally important that personal opinions are based on factual data, which is what I'm trying to address in my most recent posts.

Agreed. Though even if the different data is correct, non are enough to hinder you in a match.

I’ve owned k525i, 7-35, and currently own zcomp. Along with most of the others on the list.

There are nuances to them all and most of it is going to be personal preference.

I can say without a doubt, none of those preferences will handicap you unless it’s messing with on the mental side.
 
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