15.5"How tall is the over all set up from the bottom of the scale to the top of the hopper lid? Thanks man,
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Create a channel Learn more15.5"How tall is the over all set up from the bottom of the scale to the top of the hopper lid? Thanks man,
Same as water bottleswe would need to know what type filament is being used to determine how it is going to react with powders. PLA, PETG, PC, ABS? I believe all those types have a "clear" option as shown in the pic.
I changed the hopper top for many reasons.
Gluing the polycarbonate tube into the aluminum valve body was going to be a big assembly bottle neck and it made it much taller.
This design has a twist lock thread to the valve body which has many positives including:
Replaceable if need be, screw on lids are very cheap already made, easily upgradable to larger hopper if wanted, adapters to say 1lb bottles if wanted, and it can be removed for easier and smaller packaging.
pyrex can never have threads. And I didn't want to deal with broken glass in shipments.Would you be willing to share the hopper thread dimensions/valve body specs for anyone that wants to have a pyrex hopper made or 3d print their own adapter?
I knew you wanted shorterMy man!!!! That's awesome! Thanks man!
Dramworx makes aftermarket Pyrex hoppers with an aluminum adapter for a lot of powder measures.pyrex can never have threads. And I didn't want to deal with broken glass in shipments.
If they make something it’ll be tall and heavy plus you’ll pay well over $100 for it.Dramworx makes aftermarket Pyrex hoppers with an aluminum adapter for a lot of powder measures.
The ones made for the existing ATV3 are neither tall nor heavy. In addition, he makes custom sizes at customer request.If they make something it’ll be tall and heavy plus you’ll pay well over $100 for it.
I doubt it. Cost wise savings is negligible when comparing price between the acrylic tube and 3d printed part.So, given the change in hoppers, will there be a change in price?
When compared to what Paul has designed it will be taller and heavier. If Dramworx had to make an adapter that will add height. Plus with the diameter of glass that has been used on V2 and V3 kits in the past it would definitely be taller to equal the same amount of powder. Plus the glass is just heavier.The ones made for the existing ATV3 are neither tall nor heavy. In addition, he makes custom sizes at customer request.
Doesn’t seem smart to me…. My powder comes in 8# containersWhoa that’d be smart
Things are real close. It’s mostly down to getting production pieces right.Thanks to both of you for the updates.Nice to see the tweaks to the system.Looks to be close,fingers crossed
Staining would be the biggest issue, outside of static. There would be no way to avoid it.I assume, given Paul's sensitivity to static issues ect, that the new plastic scew on hopper won't have any issues with static or staining??? I mean I love my dramwork hopper but having one that is shorter and fatter that doesn't break sounds pretty dang good to me.
( fit on a counter top with upper cabinet doors not hitting the hopper when you open the door)
I'd be willing to bet that dramworx will make one with an aluminum adapter if there's enough interest so that anyone who wants a Pyrex one could have one.
What would be the potential disadvantages of having a printed clear plastic one though, assuming static and all isn't an issue?
I'm not sure about that with that particular type of plastic. He said it was like a water bottle type of material and my guys literally use water bottles to put all kinds of various things in and they never stain. Now it could be that I've not ever seen anything in a bottle long enough to stain it of course. Also I know some plastic type materials are very good with static but I don't know which is which. I know that Paul is very aware of static and the real causes/issues with it so I doubt he's putting something on this machine that will have issues but I'm really just curious. The Pyrex is nice to use but I've broken 2 now so it would be nice to have one that doesn't break. My experience with dramworx is that they will make you whatever you want so if folks want a Pyrex one I feel sure they will do it anyway so should be a non issue either way.Staining would be the biggest issue, outside of static. There would be no way to avoid it.
I'm assuming static won't be an issue, as Paul has been extremely careful with it. As far as staining goes, so what? If the still perfectly functional hopper turns a nasty color over the course of months on a part that would probably cost less than dinner, I fail to see how that's a huge issue. That has been the situation for Dillon powder meters forever. If it really bothers a guy, I'm sure someone will make an expensive solution for guys that want something like a dramworx hopper.If you're going from a hopper that doesn't stain or have issues with static, for the same package price, to a 3D printed version that you are going to replace for an additional cost to avoid breaking on shipping, it's probably not splitting hairs.
NOSo, given the change in hoppers, will there be a change in price?
Don't leave powder in it! Your powder should be kept in containers where humidity can be kept a constant. Not out in the dispenserI haven't met a powder hopper that hasn't stained if you left powder in it (other than pyrex). But maybe this one will be different.
It never was going to be glass. It has just changed from one plastic to another that is better in all the ways I said.If you're going from a hopper that doesn't stain or have issues with static, for the same package price, to a 3D printed version that you are going to replace for an additional cost to avoid breaking on shipping, it's probably not splitting hairs.
If you live in the southwest, you don't want to try to hold on to the moisture content the powder shipped with. You want to homogenize it with your drier climate. It gives you faster velocity with less pressure.Don't leave powder in it! Your powder should be kept in containers where humidity can be kept a constant. Not out in the dispenser
DuhIf you live in the southwest, you don't want to try to hold on to the moisture content the powder shipped with. You want to homogenize it with your drier climate. It gives you faster velocity with less pressure.
Not everyone lives in the same climate and some people can do different things based on their reloading setups. With that said, when it can be avoided, yes remove the powder.Don't leave powder in it! Your powder should be kept in containers where humidity can be kept a constant. Not out in the dispenser
It does not give you faster velocity with less pressure. There is no magic like that.If you live in the southwest, you don't want to try to hold on to the moisture content the powder shipped with. You want to homogenize it with your drier climate. It gives you faster velocity with less pressure.
I keep mine with packs but maintain 50-55% humidity in my loading room where it's all stored so, all my powder should be pretty much at that level anyway right? Not sure what other parts of the country have for interior conditioned space but I assume whatever it is would be what their powder would settle to.It does not give you faster velocity with less pressure. There is no magic like that.
Some of us, and dare, I say most, are using humidity packs to maintain the powder at its manufactured humidity
Plus, the optimal humidity for the powder should not depend upon the arbitrary variable of where you live. One could also recommend that people in Florida put desiccant packs in their powder to dry it out. But not a single rational soul is doing that.
Yeah, everything I've read about it says that manufacturers and best storage are around 50/55%Somewhere around 50% is most likely to be on the mark I’d say.
Def don’t leave it in your dispenser else those loads will be different from those loaded with a new container of your ambient humidity is not ~50%
(All this may be incorrect, but in the current state of knowledge it seems the most reasonable course.)
You know that literally when the product is released... The threading will be found instantly, right?Paul can speak for himself but I wouldn’t release specs on my product. If you ever wanted to make more premium parts why would you freely give others the specs? Plus you don’t get compensated for shit you give away for free. Paul has put in an incredible amount of time and money getting his design to where it’s at now.
Sure but why just give it away and It’s really not a thread. Be fun one to machine.You know that literally when the product is released... The threading will be found instantly, right?
Sure but why just give it away and It’s really not a thread. Be fun one to machine.
Because sometimes a normal thread just won’t work. Once you buy one you’ll see why.I was wondering if Paul's statement that the hopper "design has a twist lock thread" was really code for a proprietary locking system he has developed.....seems easier to me to go with standard stuff that the world has already settled on.
I don't think the thread that the powder hopper attaches with is going to give the unit an advantage in the market, so why not just use a standard thread that everyone else can make accessories for?
And, of course, the flip side of this argument is that if this "magical thread" turns out to be "substandard" as determined by the market place, it will be very detrimental to IP's future.Because sometimes a normal thread just won’t work. Once you buy one you’ll see why.
Paul can speak for himself but I wouldn’t release specs on my product. If you ever wanted to make more premium parts why would you freely give others the specs? Plus you don’t get compensated for shit you give away for free. Paul has put in an incredible amount of time and money getting his design to where it’s at now.
It is impregnated with Tesla AI nano chips and Elon Musks sperm tails and is constantly changing. Not possible to replicateYou know that literally when the product is released... The threading will be found instantly, right?
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I just hope these 5 gallon containers fit…. or I’ll start whining….
Probably have static issues and will stain.View attachment 8440734
I just hope these 5 gallon containers fit…. or I’ll start whining….
You can get those with glass bottles lol!Probably have static issues and will stain.