Introducing the AI Obsession Chassis

No idea. I dont have a carbon barrel. But @Covertnoob5 had his down below 16lbs for NRL Hunter. As you see it in the pic with that 28" proof comp barrel and full internal weight kit, it weighed 24.8 lbs. I removed the weights and its down to 22lbs where it will stay. 25lb is just too damn heavy. 20-22lb is my ideal weight.
I'm suprised @Covertnoob5 got under 16. No matter what combo I try I'm 17 lbs
 
Yea, i have no plans of shooting an NRL Hunter match, although it looks super fun. If i did, i would shoot my Tikka in 25CM with my Minox zp5. I know i can get that one well below 16 in its current configuration.
 
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You got a pic of this full setup?
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You're looking at:
Chassis 8lbs 13oz
NX8 2lbs 6oz
Barrel 3lbs
Ckypod is 2lbs
Suppressor is 12oz

17lbs with a Ckypod. You could maybe sneak it under 15lbs with an Atlas Cal, 20" Sendero, muzzle brake.
Double pull lightweight Ckyepod might do the trick, I used it at the Leupold NRL and between that and the Hawkins lightweight tactical rings my NRL rig was 10.3 lbs instead of 12.3 lbs with a standard triple pull and ARC rings.
 
That’s weird cause I’ve got a 24” CF proof and a double pull with a ZCO 527 and I’m under. You got a pic of the setup? Are you using the stock grip panels etc?

Not right now it's ripped back apart for finishing the cerakote but it looked like this without the full bridge tho...I should have it back together next week and will reweigh it with everything...... But without the Harris @reubenski 🤣
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Not right now it's ripped back apart for finishing the cerakote but it looked like this without the full bridge tho...I should have it back together next week and will reweigh it with everything...... But without the Harris @reubenski 🤣
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Damn sweet looking rig. You should be able to get that under 16. Obviously no bridge, no bag rider, I also use Sam’s cheek piece so that might save a couple ounces.
 
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Goddamn Im torn. I have an AX308 here, an AO forend and grip conversion ordered, and also have an ATAICS that I could swap the buttstocks on if I wanted to.

I keep jumping back and forwards between the AX buttstock and the thumbhole, its doing my head in.

If I do swap ill be left with an ATLE-AICS - which might be cool in itself. I dunno 🤷‍♂️
 
@samb300 or anyone that knows, if I bought a fixed (non-folding) AI-AT with plans to do an AO chassis could it be converted to a folder with the AO buttstock that’s coming?
Eventually the Vision AI buttstock will be offered as a full kit which includes a Vision hinge. But right now the version that has been made (and tested by @BLKWLFK9 ) swaps the Vision buttstock onto the AI hinge. It will be a more economical option for those that already have an AT folder or AX buttstock.

The only downside of swapping the Vision buttstock onto an AT hinge is it will still fold to the non-bolt side. Unfortunately the AI hinge from the AT/AX generation isn’t ambidextrous. The Vision hinge is symmetrical top to bottom so it can fold whichever direction you prefer.
 
@samb300, right on thanks for the info brother.

Any idea when the stock and/or ambi hinge might be available?

Just trying to decide on buying a fixed AT that I could possibly upgrade to a folder down the road. Been wanting an AI in your chassis for a long time!
 
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Realized I failed to post my completed rifles in this thread.

Been crazy busy so have only made it to the range with the black one. Stellar. I’ll get the Sage one out in the next couple weeks.

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Anyone happen to know where I can snag an AI folding mechanism to convert a fixed AT to this chassis and the AO/Vision butt-stock? AI has the AX buttstock kit but I’d rather do the AO one.
 
Is this a standard double pull or the lightweight? How’s she balance?

I’m considering this exact setup and hoping to swing the NV hood and stay under 16 for Hunter matches.
That’s the standard and if you look close there’s a gen 3 little B muzzle device on the scale. Balance is absolutely ridiculous. Super ass heavy. No way to get it to balance properly cause the AX rear is so heavy. I’ve got more dedicated NRLH rigs in an XLR mg and manner LRH. This was just a fun project more out of curiosity than anything.
 
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Anyone happen to know where I can snag an AI folding mechanism to convert a fixed AT to this chassis and the AO/Vision butt-stock? AI has the AX buttstock kit but I’d rather do the AO one.
It’ll be damn near impossible to only get a hinge. You’d have to buy a folding buttstock from an AT (and from a LH AT if you want the hinge to fold to the right).

Christian has a full AI folding buttstock in work, with a Vision hinge, but I don’t know what a realistic timeline is.
 
That’s the standard and if you look close there’s a gen 3 little B muzzle device on the scale. Balance is absolutely ridiculous. Super ass heavy. No way to get it to balance properly cause the AX rear is so heavy. I’ve got more dedicated NRLH rigs in an XLR mg and manner LRH. This was just a fun project more out of curiosity than anything.
That’s what I was worried about. I’ll probably just plan to run a different gun for those, my setup now is in Open light.
 
How many people are NOT going the bonding route in the Vision, and if not does the height change due to removal of the washes cause any concerns?
Appreciated
Pete
Those washers are 100% necessary... Whether you decide to bond or not I suppose is on you. If you need new ones, Mile High has them in stock normally.
 
How many people are NOT going the bonding route in the Vision, and if not does the height change due to removal of the washes cause any concerns?
Appreciated
Pete
Regardless of whether or not you bond it, the brass washers are needed. They define the height of the action relative to the magazine. If you don’t use the washers the magazine will sit 0.030” too high relative to the bolt face.

I tell people if they think they don’t want to bond it, it’s free to try first. Assemble it and torque everything down, and go shoot it. But don’t forget to bang it around a bit and give the barrel some impacts to see if your zero shifts. I tested mine unbonded, and shot one of the best groups of my life at 100, but when I hit the barrel with a mallet it didn’t hold zero.
 
Regardless of whether or not you bond it, the brass washers are needed. They define the height of the action relative to the magazine. If you don’t use the washers the magazine will sit 0.030” too high relative to the bolt face.

I tell people if they think they don’t want to bond it, it’s free to try first. Assemble it and torque everything down, and go shoot it. But don’t forget to bang it around a bit and give the barrel some impacts to see if your zero shifts. I tested mine unbonded, and shot one of the best groups of my life at 100, but when I hit the barrel with a mallet it didn’t hold zero.
Hi Samb300, pretty much what I figured, must be a bitch if you ever wanted to clean the Devcon from the Vision though, compared to the AI?
Surprised it didn't maintain zero better on the washes alone, obviously you gave it the same tap after bonding and the zero remained sweet?
Thanks for the advice, my AX shipped today, so just looking to get my ducks in a row!
Pete
 
Those washers are 100% necessary... Whether you decide to bond or not I suppose is on you. If you need new ones, Mile High has them in stock normally.
Thanks J-Ham, I'm in Australia bemoaning the price of mark-up on the Vision gear over here. They don't miss you (not a dig at Vision, more our exchange rate and taxes). Have the washes, well sandwiched still where they belong, but it would just be easier here to surface plate some washes if in need, to the correct thickness.
Thanku
Pete
 
Hi Samb300, pretty much what I figured, must be a bitch if you ever wanted to clean the Devcon from the Vision though, compared to the AI?
Surprised it didn't maintain zero better on the washes alone, obviously you gave it the same tap after bonding and the zero remained sweet?
Thanks for the advice, my AX shipped today, so just looking to get my ducks in a row!
Pete
I’ve found the easiest way to remove the Devcon is with a heat gun, or to heat the whole chassis in an oven set to 250F. That’s how I de-bond the action from the chassis, I just throw it in my oven for an hour at 250F and the action peels right off.

I gave it more than a tap with the mallet haha. Once it’s bonded I’ve never had an issue losing zero. My rifle fell off a prop about 3 feet onto the barrel and I didn’t lose zero, so I’d call that good.
 
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