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8/19 update:
I talked to the machine shop last week and they are almost done with the programming for the chassis and all the accessories. I’ve seen a couple pictures of the 5-axis fixture for the chassis, it’s pretty badass!
Not sure exactly how long it will take to get parts on machines, but we’re getting closer. First run will be 3 complete kits; one for myself and two will be sent out for user testing. Then hopefully over fall/winter I can figure out if anyone else is interested and pursue a production run.
Sam
Do you want an AR grip tang? Or a more traditional stock interface (i.e. Manners)?
There's only so much time in the day, but this is a possibility I mentioned a couple weeks ago.
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Not wading through all three pages. Make these in these three footprints from the start and you got yourself a winner:
Add the Sako TRG and 75/85 footprints for bonus points.
- R700 (duh)
- Howa 1500
- Tikka T3/T3X
If you have to ask...What would it cost to make the initial run 4 complete kits?
I don't have experience with either...is the TRG different enough from a Manners/McMillan to call it a completely different animal? Or is the picture in the concept close enough?I would like a TRG-22 buttstock
The OP understood my question/statement. You, not so much.At least let the pictures in the OP load (or read the OP). He is making an AI specific chassis that will re-use the original AI grip and butt.
Assuming the AI-action chassis is successful, I might pursue making a chassis (forend section) for an R700 AICS inlet. If only to allow the use of a R700 or Vudoo trainer rifle that was identical to the AI-action version. This would also use the buttstock and grip area of a factory AT or AX-AICS chassis.
That's what I was suggesting + forend sections inletted for Howa and Tikka actions. Maybe the availability of stand alone AIAT or AIAX buttstocks and grips would be the deal killer there.
I don't have experience with either...is the TRG different enough from a Manners/McMillan to call it a completely different animal? Or is the picture in the concept close enough?
Cant wait to get it and do the testing, Sam. I think its going to be a complete game changer for competitive AI shooters.
First test fit looks great, everything fits and functions as it should. Next step is to bond it together and document the process. More pics and info to follow!
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You should take one more step and make the hand grip assembly out of aluminum so you can have the lug to attached different style and size hand grips.
As @Luvman mentioned, it is complicated to do that while still keeping the bonded action/chassis interface. It is also difficult because of how wide and bulky the buttstock interface and hinge is...it all gets in the way of where an AR grip tang would go. I have thought at a lot about it, and it would take an even larger amount of effort and financial resources to pursue than I have put in already. For now, I think the goal of a “factory” AI competition rifle is looking good, even though it uses the AI grips and buttstock.You should take one more step and make the hand grip assembly out of aluminum so you can have the lug to attached different style and size hand grips.
As @Luvman mentioned, it is complicated to do that while still keeping the bonded action/chassis interface. It is also difficult because of how wide and bulky the buttstock interface and hinge is...it all gets in the way of where an AR grip tang would go. I have thought at a lot about it, and it would take an even larger amount of effort and financial resources to pursue than I have put in already. For now, I think the goal of a “factory” AI competition rifle is looking good, even though it uses the AI grips and buttstock.
Can’t you just 3D print different skins with different angled/sized grips? Could even have an “integral” thumb rest.
Well technically...yes. But it’s way more complicated and way more work than “just 3D print” a series of different grip panels and back straps. Step 1 through step ??? is measure, document, draw in CAD, 3D print, check the fit, then repeat over and over until it fits. And that could be just for one feature or component.Can’t you just 3D print different skins with different angled/sized grips? Could even have an “integral” thumb rest.
What’s the final weight difference?
Well technically...yes. But it’s way more complicated and way more work than “just 3D print” a series of different grip panels and back straps. Step 1 through step ??? is measure, document, draw in CAD, 3D print, check the fit, then repeat over and over until it fits. And that could be just for one feature or component.
IMO the chassis is relatively easy when it comes to CAD, lots of flat surfaces and arrays of features. The pistol grip has a lot of complex surfaces which are hard to do in CAD, even more so when you have literally no dimensions to go off of other than what you can measure.
I’ve thought about new skins before, but I haven’t had the time or desire to really dedicate to going through with it.
First test fit looks great, everything fits and functions as it should. Next step is to bond it together and document the process. More pics and info to follow!
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Well I’ve done it 3 times now, and will have to do it again once I get a chassis painted sage green.I always thought debonding an AX was grounds for treason, but that looks glorious...
Well I’ve done it 3 times now, and will have to do it again once I get a chassis painted sage green.
You could say my action has been de-flowered and then some ?
Yes, I have re-bonded the factory AX chassis back to the action twice, and I just bonded the action to the new Obsession chassis. I filmed an instructional video to document the process for both de-bonding the factory action and re-bonding the new chassis.Does that mean you have also re-bonded the chassis back to the action?
Yes, I have re-bonded the factory AX chassis back to the action twice, and I just bonded the action to the new Obsession chassis. I filmed an instructional video to document the process for both de-bonding the factory action and re-bonding the new chassis.
When I re-bonded the AX chassis back together, it had been apart for about 5 months total (basically the whole gun and scope was in pieces). I went to the range and my zero was only off by 0.2 mils. Pretty crazy how consistent these rifles are!