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Ukraine criticises speech by Pink Floyd’s Roger Waters at UN Security Council
The musician said during his speech that he ‘condemned’ the invasion of Ukraine and the ‘provocateurs’ who he claims led to the Russian attack.
www.independent.co.uk
Waters addressed the room through a video call and said he was representing “the feelings of countless brothers and sisters all over the world”.
Reflecting on the war, he said: “The invasion of Ukraine by the Russian Federation was illegal. I condemn it in the strongest possible terms.
“Also, the Russian invasion of Ukraine was not unprovoked. So I also condemn the provocateurs in the strongest possible terms.”
He continued: “So what do the voiceless millions have to say? They say thank you for hearing us today. We are many who do not share in the profits of the war industry.
“We do not willingly raise our sons and daughters to provide fodder for your cannons.
“In our opinion, the only sensible course of action today is to call for an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine, no ifs, no buts, no and.
“Not one more Ukrainian or Russian life is to be spent, not one, they are all precious in our eyes. So the time has come to speak truth to power.”
All this talk is bullshit. No one cares at this point other than the person flapping their gums on stage for applause. This conflict will go the way it goes, and words aren’t going to stop a thing. That’s some split the baby in two 60’s hippy holdover BS that he was spouting. This conflict is much more serious than that, especially if it goes full NATO V Russia.Ukraine criticises speech by Pink Floyd’s Roger Waters at UN Security Council
The musician said during his speech that he ‘condemned’ the invasion of Ukraine and the ‘provocateurs’ who he claims led to the Russian attack.
Waters addressed the room through a video call and said he was representing “the feelings of countless brothers and sisters all over the world”.
Reflecting on the war, he said: “The invasion of Ukraine by the Russian Federation was illegal. I condemn it in the strongest possible terms.
“Also, the Russian invasion of Ukraine was not unprovoked. So I also condemn the provocateurs in the strongest possible terms.”
He continued: “So what do the voiceless millions have to say? They say thank you for hearing us today. We are many who do not share in the profits of the war industry.
“We do not willingly raise our sons and daughters to provide fodder for your cannons.
“In our opinion, the only sensible course of action today is to call for an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine, no ifs, no buts, no and.
“Not one more Ukrainian or Russian life is to be spent, not one, they are all precious in our eyes. So the time has come to speak truth to power.”
This pie-in-the-sky, tie dye, kumbaya, weed smoking speech I have no desire for. YMMV
if he doesn't shut up, they're going to put him in the firing line. sounds like it's just a waste of time.Ukraine criticises speech by Pink Floyd’s Roger Waters at UN Security Council
The musician said during his speech that he ‘condemned’ the invasion of Ukraine and the ‘provocateurs’ who he claims led to the Russian attack.
Waters addressed the room through a video call and said he was representing “the feelings of countless brothers and sisters all over the world”.
Reflecting on the war, he said: “The invasion of Ukraine by the Russian Federation was illegal. I condemn it in the strongest possible terms.
“Also, the Russian invasion of Ukraine was not unprovoked. So I also condemn the provocateurs in the strongest possible terms.”
He continued: “So what do the voiceless millions have to say? They say thank you for hearing us today. We are many who do not share in the profits of the war industry.
“We do not willingly raise our sons and daughters to provide fodder for your cannons.
“In our opinion, the only sensible course of action today is to call for an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine, no ifs, no buts, no and.
“Not one more Ukrainian or Russian life is to be spent, not one, they are all precious in our eyes. So the time has come to speak truth to power.”
There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
You can not reason with this type of stupidity- Ukrainian UN ambassador Mr Kyslytsya later addressed the security council meeting and reminded the room that Pink Floyd were banned in the Soviet Union after they condemned the country for invading Afghanistan in 1979.
He added: “It is ironic, if not hypocritical that Mr Waters attempts now to whitewash another invasion.
perhaps, but he's still putting himself in harm's way, not just professionally but personally.
shit like this happens because nobody of consequence will speak up. epstein and weinstein are probably good examples.
and i do think he is speaking for unheard millions that have been stifled (except here)
no worries, the KGB has been out of business for a long time.Kostroma. If you ask where I work, then not in KGB
My exact feelings as well, Russias actions were illegal, but not unprovoked. Regarding every sentence, no truer words could be spoken about this war.
Yes, they rebranded as FSK, and now FSB. No clue what the difference is.
he was a drunk and a derelict who was OWNED by the Clintons. He couldn't handle the job, all he could do was bend over and sell out to the people who were stealing everything which was not nailed down. This is why the Clintons and the leftists in the west remember him so fondly. He is the epitome of what they want Russia to be.
And exactly why the under the counter ran him out. Who’s had the reins since?
I don't understand what point you are trying to make. That Putin took over? ok, yes he did. Here's what he did afterwards.
"Americans generally have no idea what life was like for Russians during the 1990s. They naively assume that because Russia swiftly adopted capitalism, the result was great economic prosperity. The reality was quite different.
After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Boris Yeltsin took office and dramatically re-organized Russia’s economy on free market lines. When Bill Clinton was elected as President of the United States, it was widely understood that Yeltsin was “Clinton’s man.” According to the US Bureau of Public Affairs, Boris Yeltsin and Bill Clinton were very close. The official US government website states: “Clinton was strongly inclined not only to like Yeltsin but also to support his policies, in particular, his commitment to Russian democracy.” US President Bill Clinton met with Boris Yeltsin 18 times while he was in office.
While only 6% of the Russian public approved of Yeltsin’s “reforms,” the Clinton administration directed and sponsored the Yeltsin administration’s efforts in Russia. With the approval of Washington, the International Monetary Fund, and the World Bank, Yeltsin privatized state owned industries, lifted price controls, and in the process left millions of Russians in desperate conditions. US economist Jeffrey Sachs of Columbia University was dispatched to Russia in order to oversee the process.
The result was not the establishment of a free market paradise, but rather a huge catastrophe. US Senator Bill Bradley explained it this way: “30% unemployment, rampant inflation, pensions gone, savings gone, 30 or 40 years… it’s all gone. No jobs. A few people doing very well, who bought all assets from the state, but the average person, no.”
According to Naomi Klein’s 2007 book “The Shock Doctrine” between 1991 and 1998 “more than 80 percent of Russian farms had gone bankrupt and roughly seventy thousand state factories had closed creating an epidemic of unemployment.” As a result, 74 million Russians were living below the poverty line. Klein goes on to say that “25 percent of Russians – almost 37 million people – lived in poverty described as ‘desperate.’”
During the 1990s, when Yeltsin was dramatically changing the country under the direction of the Clinton administration, the rate of drug addiction in Russia increased by 900 percent. The suicide rate almost doubled. HIV, which had previously only infected no more than fifty thousand Russians, became a nationwide epidemic with millions contracting AIDs.
An entire population of people who had lived with guaranteed employment, guaranteed healthcare, old age pensions, and a planned economy saw the social safety net swept from underneath them, as widely unpopular policies, backed by Washington, were imposed on the country. US Senator Bill Bradley describes the tone of US diplomats in their interactions with Russia, saying Clinton administration officials spoke of “stuffing shit down Boris throat,” gleefully taking pleasure in ordering him to wreck his country’s economy.
Naomi Klein quotes a Russian Academic named Vladimir Gusev as saying “The years of criminal capitalism have killed off 10 percent of our population.” Russia’s population decreased by 6.6 million between 1992 and 2006. Klein quotes US Economist Andre Gunder Frank calling what took place in Russia as “economic genocide.” Russian Vice President Alexander V. Rutskoi used the same words as the policies were beginning in 1992, saying it would have catastrophic results for children and the elderly.
It has only been since the ascension of Vladimir Putin that the situation in Russia has improved. During the first eight years of Putin’s presidency, wages doubled and the poverty rate was reduced by 14%. During this same period Russia experienced overall industrial expansion of more than 70%. The country’s Gross Domestic Product increased from $764 billion to $2096.8 billion between 2007 and 2014. John Browne, the CEO of BP has praised Putin’s policies saying “No country has come so far, in such a short space of time.”
Since the sanctions were imposed, Russia's GDP has shot up to over 4 trillion. Now 6th largest in the world, on par with Germany.
Biden made the Taliban great again! Now he's working on Russia!
China now the undisputed largest economy.
I hope that article is bullshit, but given Bidens success rate so far, I wouldn't be surprised if it's correct.
Biden made the Taliban great again! Now he's working on Russia!
Despite Sanctions Russia's GDP Shoots over Trillion - The Difference between Nominal GDP and PPP GDP Explained
According to fresh figures from the IMF (October 24), Russia’s GDP is expected to exceed $4 trillion first time ever. By this measure, Russia is the 6th largest economy in the world, virtually on par with Germany, who scored $4.15 trillion.
www.awaragroup.com
China now the undisputed largest economy.
I hope that article is bullshit, but given Bidens success rate so far, I wouldn't be surprised if it's correct.
this might be big.
Ukrainian suicide naval drones which reportedly use Starlink as a data-link.
SpaceX has taken measures to prevent Kiev forces from using the Starlink satellite internet service for controlling drones used in military operations, SpaceX’s president said on February 8.
The Starlink satellite internet constellation was activated over Ukraine just a few days after the Russian special military operation last year. The system quickly became the main internet and communication provider for the Kiev government and its forces.
Gwynne Shotwell, SpaceX’s president and chief operating officer, said during a conference in Washington, D.C. that Starlink was “never never meant to be weaponized.”
Ukraine’s use of Starlink to control military drones is well-documented. Last, October, several Ukrainian suicide naval drones attacked the Russian Black Sea Fleet in Crimea’s Sevastopol Port. The drones data-link was reportedly built around a Starlink terminal.
SpaceX’s decision to curb Ukrainian use of Starlink for controlling drones may be meant to protect the company from any legal consequences. Meanwhile, Kiev forces will apparently continue to use the system for military communications just like before.
SPACEX TOOK MEASURES TO STOP UKRAINE FROM USING STARLINK INTERNET SERVICE IN DRONES
Support SouthFrontUkrainian suicide naval drones which reportedly use Starlink as a data-link.
SpaceX has taken measures to prevent Kiev forces from using the Starlink satellite internet service for controlling drones used in military operations, SpaceX’s president said on February 8.
The Starlink satellite internet constellation was activated over Ukraine just a few days after the Russian special military operation last year. The system quickly became the main internet and communication provider for the Kiev government and its forces.
Gwynne Shotwell, SpaceX’s president and chief operating officer, said during a conference in Washington, D.C. that Starlink was “never never meant to be weaponized.”
Shotwell referred to reports that Kiev forces had used the Starlink service to control drones used in operations against the Russian military.
Using Starlink with drones went beyond the scope of an agreement SpaceX has with the Ukrainian government, Shotwell said, adding the contract was intended for humanitarian purposes such as providing broadband internet to hospitals, banks and families affected by Russia’s invasion.
Ukraine internet service is now being provided by more than 20,000 Starlink terminals, some from Western governments and volunteers, in addition to many provided directly by SpaceX. The Russian military has been hunting down Starlink terminals on the ground with direct fire and working to disturb the system with electronic warfare means.
Ukraine’s use of Starlink to control military drones is well-documented. Last, October, several Ukrainian suicide naval drones attacked the Russian Black Sea Fleet in Crimea’s Sevastopol Port. The drones data-link was reportedly built around a Starlink terminal.
SpaceX’s decision to curb Ukrainian use of Starlink for controlling drones may be meant to protect the company from any legal consequences. Meanwhile, Kiev forces will apparently continue to use the system for military communications just like before.
What I am saying is old "under the counter" Soviet/Russian Intel types got tired of seeing what was happening and took over. And have been in control since.
Everything the guy touches turns to shit.Since the sanctions were imposed, Russia's GDP has shot up to over 4 trillion. Now 6th largest in the world, on par with Germany.
Biden made the Taliban great again! Now he's working on Russia!
Despite Sanctions Russia's GDP Shoots over Trillion - The Difference between Nominal GDP and PPP GDP Explained
According to fresh figures from the IMF (October 24), Russia’s GDP is expected to exceed $4 trillion first time ever. By this measure, Russia is the 6th largest economy in the world, virtually on par with Germany, who scored $4.15 trillion.www.awaragroup.com
China now the undisputed largest economy.
I hope that article is bullshit, but given Bidens success rate so far, I wouldn't be surprised if it's correct.
He is the King Midas of shit.
Just like in the story look what his love did to his kids.
you are way off. it's a matter of historical record how the transition happened
Here's excerpts from the interview of one of Yeltsin's inner circle.
Despite having little personal experience with a former KGB officer named Vladimir Putin, Yeltsin appointed him prime minister in August on the advice of aide Valentin Yumashev. In late December, an ailing Yeltsin resigned months earlier than anticipated, making Mr. Putin the acting president. Three months later, in March 2000, Mr. Putin won the presidential election.
Valentin Yumashev played a key role in Vladimir Putin becoming president of Russia. Mr Yumashev was one of Boris Yeltsin's most trusted aides - he went on to marry Mr Yeltsin's daughter, Tatyana. As Mr Yeltsin's chief of staff, in 1997 he gave Mr Putin his first job in the Kremlin.
"Yeltsin's outgoing administration chief, Anatoly Chubais, told me he knew a strong manager who'd make a good deputy for me," Mr Yumashev recalls.
"He introduced me to Vladimir Putin and we began working together. I noticed immediately Putin's fantastic work. He was brilliant at formulating ideas, at analysing and arguing his case."
"Yeltsin had several candidates in mind, like Boris Nemtsov, Sergei Stepashin and Nikolai Aksenenko. Yeltsin and I talked a lot about possible successors. At one point we discussed Putin.
"Yeltsin asked me: 'What do you think about Putin?' I think he's a superb candidate, I replied. I think you should consider him. It's clear from the way he does his job that he's ready for more difficult tasks."
Did Putin's KGB past put him off?
"A lot of KGB agents, like Putin, had left the organisation, realising it was discredited. The fact that he was ex-KGB meant nothing. Putin had shown himself to be a liberal and a democrat, who wanted to continue market reforms."
In August 1999, Boris Yeltsin appointed Vladimir Putin prime minister. It was a clear sign that President Yeltsin was preparing Mr Putin for the Kremlin.
Mr Yeltsin was not due to leave office for another year, but in December 1999 he took the surprise decision to go early.
"Three days before New Year, Yeltsin summoned Putin to his country residence. He asked me to be present, and his new chief of staff, Alexander Voloshin. He told Putin that he wouldn't hang around until July. He'd resign on 31 December.
"Only a tiny group of people knew: me, Voloshin, Putin and Yeltsin's daughter Tatyana. Yeltsin didn't even tell his wife."
Mr Yumashev was entrusted with writing Yeltsin's resignation speech.
"It was a hard speech to write. It was clear the text would go down in history. The message was important. That's why I wrote the famous line 'Forgive me'.
"Russians had suffered such shock and stress during the 1990s. Yeltsin had to speak about this."
Valentin Yumashev on how Putin was given the power to lead Russia:
On New Year's Eve 1999, Boris Yeltsin recorded his final TV address in the Kremlin.
"It came as a shock to everyone present. Except me, who'd written the speech. People burst into tears. It was an emotional moment.
"But it was important that the news didn't leak. There were still four hours before the official announcement. So, all the people in the room were locked in. They weren't allowed to leave. I took the tape and drove to the TV station. The speech was broadcast at midday."
Vladimir Putin became acting president. Three months later, he won the election.
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Okay now do this one
Why Russia’s Onetime Richest Man Won’t See A Penny Of The $50 Billion Putin ‘Destroyed’
Mikhail Khodorkovsky saw his money, power and influence stripped by the Russian state. Despite the majority shareholders of his oil giant Yukos being awarded $50 billion at The Hague this week, the former oligarch won’t receive a penny.
www.forbes.com
When Russia’s richest man, an oil tycoon was arrested and 50 billion is assests stolen. Because he backed political opposition to Putin.
Putin is not the worlds savior… any more than Biden and co.
This war is the culmination of to opposing sides both heavily corrupt fighting over control.
As Rodger Waters eluded to, no one is innocent.
Yeltsen was forced out.
As Rodger Waters eluded to, no one is innocent.
Yeltsen was forced out.
Of course he was. As Russians started to set their house in order an enteprise you should endeavor to implement in your house. It is way overdue for cleaning!
The guy got his wealth by pillaging the country for assets just like the rest of his ogliarch class who are absolute parasites and oppressors.
So one evil looter got his wealth looted by another looter.
Cry me a river...
Drudge is linking to a story that is predicting what appears to be a 500,000 man Russian mechanized offensive within the next ten days.
I have not seen any reporting, not derived from Ukrainian sources, showing a huge change in the composition & disposition of arrayed Russian forces.
Guess we’ll have to see.
I have not seen any reporting, not derived from Ukrainian sources, showing a huge change in the composition & disposition of arrayed Russian forces.
Guess we’ll have to see.
It was originally thought to be 300K, the estimates keep going up. There has been some serious talk about this on non-MSM channels. Looks like things are about to get really going.
ok, if you want:Okay now do this one
Why Russia’s Onetime Richest Man Won’t See A Penny Of The $50 Billion Putin ‘Destroyed’
Mikhail Khodorkovsky saw his money, power and influence stripped by the Russian state. Despite the majority shareholders of his oil giant Yukos being awarded $50 billion at The Hague this week, the former oligarch won’t receive a penny.
When Russia’s richest man, an oil tycoon was arrested and 50 billion is assests stolen. Because he backed political opposition to Putin.
Putin is not the worlds savior… any more than Biden and co.
Like the bold oligarch that he is, Soros denounced the arrest of Khodorkovsky as "persecution" that would force business to submit to the Russian state.
"I believe that he acted within the constraints of the law in supporting political parties. I am doing the same in the United States."
By this remark, George Soros was reminding us that he had given $10 million to the Democratic National Committee for "regime change" in the 2004 elections. Of course, he is acting within the constraints of the law, in the same way that Khodorkovsky was when he named his charitable organization, the "Open Russia Foundation," and said that there was no connection with the Soros "Open Society Institute" although they did fund some projects together.
Khodorkovsky nabbed Lord Rothschild of London and our own inimitable Henry Kissinger for his board of directors. Gifts to American charities began to flow. Khodorkovsky joined the advisory board of the U.S. Carlyle Group, a super rich private equity fund, where he conferred in Moscow with the former Secretary of State James Baker III and former President George H. W. Bush......
.....Prosecutors will have no problems in finding charges against many Russian tycoons involved in the "quick and dirty" privatization programs under Boris Yeltsin in the mid- 1990s. The theory, developed by the Clinton administration, was that once private property was established, the new owners would fight for democracy against a strong Communist challenge.
When Yeltsin won, by very dubious means, oligarchs were given state jobs and enormous powers. At that time, Condoleezza Rice, who is now national security adviser, wrote that the Clintonistas were overlooking the "looting of the country's assets by powerful people." Under Putin, the prosecutors have for four years been building their cases and, again in theory, a rule of law may emerge.
“I understand your point Bill, and I will act as you suggest I should” (Yeltsin to Clinton, September 12, 1998)
now, show of hands. WHO ON THIS BOARD would say those words to Bill or Hillary Clinton. Knowing everything you know about the Clintons. If you ran a country and were responsible for the prosperity and well being of your people, but gave the Clintons full control to do whatever they wanted in your country. What would that make you?
now, show of hands. WHO ON THIS BOARD would say those words to Bill or Hillary Clinton. Knowing everything you know about the Clintons. If you ran a country and were responsible for the prosperity and well being of your people, but gave the Clintons full control to do whatever they wanted in your country. What would that make you?
Get READY, Here comes Russia (I'm still waiting on the 1 million men; Stalin could raise them, Putin must be going soft)
(around Valentine's Day? damn Putin, the irony) < goes to show you, even heartless bastards have a sense of humor.
www.dailymail.co.uk
(around Valentine's Day? damn Putin, the irony) < goes to show you, even heartless bastards have a sense of humor.
huge new invasion in Ukraine in ten days'
Russia has prepared 1,800 tanks
4,000 armoured vehicles
810 rocket-launch systems
400 fighter jets
300 Helicopters
Russia has prepared 1,800 tanks 'for huge new invasion in ten days'
A Ukrainian official, speaking to Foreign Policy, also estimated that Russia has 300 helicopters and 2,700 artillery systems ready for a new invasion.
don't forgot the 'supposed GOLD' that Bill took out of Russia on one of his trips. A conspiracy theory.. like russia gate and Joe B taking top secret papers.
lol
Halyna Hutchins' parents and sister in Ukraine sue Alec Baldwin claiming she would have brought them to the US when war broke out but was killed by the actor on set of Rust - so now they're stuck
Forwarded from /CIG/ Telegram | Counter Intelligence Global (FRANCISCVS)
Operation "DAGGER":Lieutenant Colonel Maciej Korowaj presents a hypothetical course of a probable Russian offensive on Ukraine. - "I developed it based on the RUS operational methodology. Given the complexity of the topic, I have limited myself to the key issues. The thread shows the course of the entire operation in (4) stages.
Minimum parameters of fighting in the auxiliary direction in the first stage of the operation RUS fire superiority 7:1 attack up to 10 km/day. Main direction II and III stage 5:1 up to 15 km/day. At the key points of the 10:1 operation. Average in operation 3:1 and up to 10km/day.
1st Stage (up to 3 days) hitting the 1st throw in the auxiliary direction from the east to the direction of Kiev. Pressure in the northern direction (Regional Grouping of Forces) and in the Donbass. RUS achieve strategic surprise as to the strength and direction of the strike. The topic of strategic redeployment is strongly emphasized by RUS and regularly trained, whether in own or allied exercises. An example is, for example, "ZAPAD 2017" and the annual exercise of the crypt railway troops. "ECHELON". Strategic or operational surprise is achieved by RUS through tgz. "Żabi Skok" of the main forces of the Operational Union in the direction of the strike no later than 3 days before the start of the operation. 1st throw units up to 24h for 2nd throw units 72h. The third flush is about 2-3 weeks. The OC's entry into combat is smooth. A few days or a week before the strike, elements of the reconnaissance and forward command system are deployed along with support units. Nevertheless, it is difficult to clearly state the intention of action. They often maneuver or demonstrate.Image
The 2nd stage of the operation (5-6 days) is the entry of the 2nd wave. Continued attack towards Kiev. At the same time, an attack from the south flanking the main SZU forces in Donbass.
The 3rd stage of the operation (day 10-12) is the entry of all the forces of the 2nd echelon simultaneously with the planned change of the direction of the main attack from east to south and the continuation of the attack from south to north. At the same time, strikes are made on the Dnieper crossings.
4th stage of the operation (day 20-30) the main objective is to capture the key area by the forces of the 3rd echelon and the separated 2nd echelon. At that time, the forces of the first echelon should restore combat readiness and move to the operation reserve. RUS in this case will retain the operational initiative. Taking into account the changes in the RUS command and previous actions such as: reducing artillery fire, forcing UKR to disperse air defense units over critical infrastructure, "disappearance" of many select units from the front - something is afoot. If you like it, pass it on."
As Gonzalo Lira described nine days, ago.Get READY, Here comes Russia (I'm still waiting on the 1 million men; Stalin could raise them, Putin must be going soft)
(around Valentine's Day? damn Putin, the irony) < goes to show you, even heartless bastards have a sense of humor.
huge new invasion in Ukraine in ten days'
Russia has prepared 1,800 tanks
4,000 armoured vehicles
810 rocket-launch systems
400 fighter jets
300 Helicopters
Russia has prepared 1,800 tanks 'for huge new invasion in ten days'
A Ukrainian official, speaking to Foreign Policy, also estimated that Russia has 300 helicopters and 2,700 artillery systems ready for a new invasion.
It’s almost like he really doesn’t speak for God. Like God is His own council or something.
Seems like I read that somewhere…
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