At this point I'd fucking cheer if Russia took over all of western Europe
-
Having trouble using the site?
Contact support
Is something going on in Ukraine?
- Thread starter Cardboard55
- Start date
- Status
Interesting analysis, I always appreciate your view.
=================================================================
There will be war the only question is how far will it evolve. The first "historical" posturing has already happened with Geneva talks where the point wasn't "lets reach a compromise and a deal" but lets write up our positions for posterity so it's clear(er) who and why started it. Russians want for the records (and non US serflands) that they are not the ones positioning their country to the US bases and US wants for the records (US serflands and internal marketing - your elites still need to sell this war to you regardless of how many "old cold war geezers" are still alive) we wanted to negotiate but the Russian bear being a bear only knows how to claw us "bringers of light to opressed nations" - how trully ungrateful of the bear which needs spanking now...
Now will US actually go all-in ( i have my doubts like 50:50) as in are warmongers really that dumb and detached from reality? The only issue i can discern from, if the answer is yes, is that when shooting starts and US figures out this is no longer "a bow&arrow vs rifle" fight and that what comes back flying has a nasty itch and pain associated with it. Nothing unlike the marketing expectations being sold to world public for the last 100 years, it will be to late and to save a face would cause (for US domestic market) total collapse of confidence and breakage of internal US relations (which are already extremely tense due to more and more people waking up to the sad reality that is the US system nowadays). Some say that would be good as then normal people of US would be able to take back their country once the "emperor is naked" hits home however i'm not so very sure that "old values consitutional John Wayne" is incarnated in the numbers and will required to fix what is now broken. On top of that weak US does not spell anything good for the world as China (nor Russia) are good samaritans and there is a reason that everything in nature comes in balance (or has tendency to balance - mostly violently
).
=================================================================
There will be war the only question is how far will it evolve. The first "historical" posturing has already happened with Geneva talks where the point wasn't "lets reach a compromise and a deal" but lets write up our positions for posterity so it's clear(er) who and why started it. Russians want for the records (and non US serflands) that they are not the ones positioning their country to the US bases and US wants for the records (US serflands and internal marketing - your elites still need to sell this war to you regardless of how many "old cold war geezers" are still alive) we wanted to negotiate but the Russian bear being a bear only knows how to claw us "bringers of light to opressed nations" - how trully ungrateful of the bear which needs spanking now...
Now will US actually go all-in ( i have my doubts like 50:50) as in are warmongers really that dumb and detached from reality? The only issue i can discern from, if the answer is yes, is that when shooting starts and US figures out this is no longer "a bow&arrow vs rifle" fight and that what comes back flying has a nasty itch and pain associated with it. Nothing unlike the marketing expectations being sold to world public for the last 100 years, it will be to late and to save a face would cause (for US domestic market) total collapse of confidence and breakage of internal US relations (which are already extremely tense due to more and more people waking up to the sad reality that is the US system nowadays). Some say that would be good as then normal people of US would be able to take back their country once the "emperor is naked" hits home however i'm not so very sure that "old values consitutional John Wayne" is incarnated in the numbers and will required to fix what is now broken. On top of that weak US does not spell anything good for the world as China (nor Russia) are good samaritans and there is a reason that everything in nature comes in balance (or has tendency to balance - mostly violently
).
Most of the fighting in Ukraine was/is Ukrainians against Ethnic Russian Ukrainians, sure Moscow put its fingers on the scale when it looked 'Rebels' might get overrun, but the involvement of the Russian military was nowhere close to what is being assumed. It's also far less of a fight between Ukraine and Moscow than between Ukraine and part of its citizens that do not bow to what they see as an illegitimate government. Lets not pretend a violent coup was staged to overthrow the legitimate government of Ukraine.
Ukraine was politically extremely polarised, pre 2014 coup , political polarisation was closely along the ethnic lines. Ethnic Russian and mayority of Russian speaking Ukrainians voted for the deposed president and his party.
The constant Ukrainian invasion scares have little or nothing to do with Ukraine but posturing in the West , needed to get reluctant Europeans on board with the new Cold war which like it or not US has not even remote possibility of winning without EU and bunch of other allies on board.
Russia is a relatively soft target compared to China (acting against Russia doesn't cost US economy any $$ , Europe picks up the tab, acting against China does hence a very carefully tiptoeing the line with China, also scary tales in regards to China would hardly get anyone in Europe riled up or onboard for the cold war with China.
Ukraine was politically extremely polarised, pre 2014 coup , political polarisation was closely along the ethnic lines. Ethnic Russian and mayority of Russian speaking Ukrainians voted for the deposed president and his party.
The constant Ukrainian invasion scares have little or nothing to do with Ukraine but posturing in the West , needed to get reluctant Europeans on board with the new Cold war which like it or not US has not even remote possibility of winning without EU and bunch of other allies on board.
Russia is a relatively soft target compared to China (acting against Russia doesn't cost US economy any $$ , Europe picks up the tab, acting against China does hence a very carefully tiptoeing the line with China, also scary tales in regards to China would hardly get anyone in Europe riled up or onboard for the cold war with China.
Last edited:
I tend to agree with him if you confine it to 50-75 miles from the Atlantic coast pretty much everything north of Charlottesville to Boston and New Hampshire . if Fuctardland. And they, the "Harvard's" pretty much run the national show.
That map does show an interesting demographic though. Look at where 99% of the true shitholes are and color them blue.
Surprising all this blue splotches in the south. Must be mtncreeks buddies
Most of the fighting in Ukraine was/is Ukrainians against Ethnic Russian Ukrainians, sure Moscow put its fingers on the scale when it looked 'Rebels' might get overrun, but the involvement of the Russian military was nowhere close to what is being assumed. It's also far less of a fight between Ukraine and Moscow than between Ukraine and part of its citizens that do not bow to what they see as an illegitimate government. Lets not pretend a violent coup was staged to overthrow the legitimate government of Ukraine.
Ukraine was politically extremely polarised, pre 2014 coup , political polarisation was closely along the ethnic lines. Ethnic Russian and mayority of Russian speaking Ukrainians voted for the deposed president and his party.
The constant Ukrainian invasion scares have little or nothing to do with Ukraine but posturing in the West , needed to get reluctant Europeans on board with the new Cold war which like it or not US has not even remote possibility of winning without EU and bunch of other allies on board.
Russia is a relatively soft target compared to China (acting against Russia doesn't cost US economy any $$ , Europe picks up the tab, acting against China does hence a very carefully tiptoeing the line with China, also scary tales in regards to China would hardly get anyone in Europe riled up or onboard for the cold war with China.
this is true, and it's the same story all over the former USSR. It's a result of the same propaganda that feed the BLM riots here in America.
On one side you have the Central Asian republics: Kazakhs and Turkmen discriminate against Russians; there's nothing but hate and discrimination against the "oppressor" white people, and they kick them out, even if they lived there for 100 years. Then everything goes to shit, culturally, economically, and with their own defense. Soros steps in and tries to make inroads.
Back in the 90's, it was popular to spray grafitti all over these Central Asian shitholes that said "Russians go home, but leave your daughters so we can fuck them". It's the same kind of anti-white racism that is being manufactured in America. And if you know the history of these places in the 19th century, the Russian army saved these people by putting an end to their genocidal intertribal BS - The Kazaks were being annihilated by other tribes, and the Turkmen were enslaving each other and everyone else. And as for the Russians who moved there during the time of the USSR, they were escapees from Stalin, or released inmates from the gulag. they were not oppressing anyone, they were victims themselves.
And on the other side you have the European white republics who hate the living shit out of Russians because of the USSR and other earlier history. Tough shit. Ukrainians were the same Rus, and they should blame the Poles and Lithuanians for their identity crisis. Hell, they even asked the Russians to save them more than once. And the Balts hate everyone. As far as the communists, the Russians themselves were the biggest victims of all. the bolsheviks killed more Russians than anyone else in history. More than the Mongols, and more than Hitler. So these people need to hate socialism, not some 70 year old grandmother living in Donbass.
You might want to learn why the Russians were in those countries and still are in those countries and learn what they did when they were incharge. You might find the root of all the anti-Russian sentiment by them.
I have a feeling that you did not read through my post, because it already answered the question you ask here. But unless you are a complete dumb ass and meant "the Soviet communists" when you said "Russians", I'll take you literally. the Russian Empire was in Central Asia because of the Great Game with the British Empire, and in search of a warm water port.
As I stated in my post, the Kazakhs asked for Russian intervention because they were getting massacred. The Russian military literally saved them from extermination.
The Turkmen were doing the usual Muslim thing of taking slaves. From anyone they could. Russians, Persians, and Armenians. The Russian military eventually took over the area and put an end to the slave trade.
All of this happened just a few decades before the soviet communists took over "Russia". Now, if you meant the "soviets" when you said "Russians", then lets take a look.
The soviet communists were composed of every ethnic group in the Empire. They had a huge preponderance of Jews; there's a whole long list. Maybe you want to blame them? Some of the worst soviets were Georgians like Stalin and Beria (both mass murderers) . Khrushchev and Timoshenko (the guy who invaded Finland) were Ukrainian. Of course the Ukrainians sided heavily with the Nazis, as did the Estonians who had their own SS division, but hey, there was no shortage of them in the NKVD either. There were even off-brand minorities like Lenin. If the only soviet communists were the "russian" ones, then the USSR never would have happened.
And Soviet Communism was at war with the idea of nations anyway. they wanted a one world state based on international socialism with no nations, no "Russia". Russian nationalism and pan-slavism was utterly rejected by the communists. So, saying that the Soviets were all "Russians" in an academic discussion is about as stupid as saying that white American Trump supporters are "Nazis".
Last edited:
If you do want to engage your critical thinking cap that would be great though. If people(ethnic) in those countries want to identify as Russians and keep only Russian culture they will be looked at as others. Simple easy and reason for the hate. Now maybe the president of Russia might find this advantageous to have a group of people in several countries that do not want to be citizens of those countries. He might want to use this to divide and foster conflict in these countries. You know “sphere of influence”. Keep them busy so he can make moves under less scrutiny.
Russian Marine landing craft just entered my neighbourhood. Sweden now has roaming armed military patrols even in the cities on Gotland. Large drones have been observed over important installations such as nuclear powerplants. Things are tense over here to say the least.
Military Daily News
Daily updates of everything that you need know about what is going on in the military community and abroad including military gear and equipment, breaking news, international news and more.
For much of the 80's US and Britain were running submarine ops in Swedish waters , after one of the soviet subs ran aground in Swedish waters, to spread the Soviet scare and it worked. these days they don't even need to do that as MSM does is without much of an investment.Russian Marine landing craft just entered my neighbourhood. Sweden now has roaming armed military patrols even in the cities on Gotland. Large drones have been observed over important installations such as nuclear powerplants. Things are tense over here to say the least.
Military Daily News
Daily updates of everything that you need know about what is going on in the military community and abroad including military gear and equipment, breaking news, international news and more.www.military.com
"Ola Tunander's revelations in this book makes it clear that the United States and Britain ran a 'secret war' in Swedish waters to test Sweden's capability and will in the 1980s. Within a couple of years, the number of Swedes perceiving the Soviet Union as a direct threat had increased from 5-10 per cent (in 1980) to 45 per cent (in 1983). In the same period, the number of Swedes viewing the Soviets as unfriendly increased from 30 per cent to more than 80 per cent. This Anglo-American 'secret war' was a deception operation aimed at exerting political influence over Sweden. It was a risky enterprise, but, as the Swedish polls show, perhaps the most successful covert operation of the entire Cold War." |
https://www.prio.org/publications/3128
In any case no one takes Sweden seriously , and considering that its slowly turning into Somalia of the north, i am not sure anyone would want to take it even if they desperately wanted for someone to take over .
Last edited:
We actually had a soviet whiskey class sub, armed with nuclear weapons in the upper torpedo tubes, run aground nearly resulting in armed conflict to free the sub. Soviet aggression is well documented and only denied by card carrying members of the swedish communist party (V, formerly VpK)
U 137 – dagarna när Sverige var på randen till krig
För 40 år sedan, natten till den 28 oktober 1981, går en sovjetisk ubåt av Whiskey-klass på grund vid Gåsefjärden i skärgården utanför Karlskrona. Här är historien om vad som hände.
www.forsvarsmakten.se
So just maybe being 30 minutes from open armed conflict with the soviet union over them being caught with nuclear weapons right off a major naval base has more to do with the rise in public perception of a soviet threat 1980-83 than your weak quote? This incident happened in 81.
Thunander is debunked and considered a conspiracy theorist. Most likely one of many soviet Humint assets in the far left academic sphere.
The anti nuclear, anti american ”peace movement” he is a part of was a product of Soviet Humint and was like the communist party even partially funded by covert Soviet subsidiaries.
Hard to explain an actual russian sub with nukes onboard as a ”CIA covert action” , not to mention the soviet special operations unit that was scheduled to free the sub by force at 0300, 30 minutes out at 0230
Imagine the soviet union being caught with a stranded sub 250km from New York or LA (copenhagen is 250) or 450km (stockholm) 20km from a major naval base.
As for the above claim that nobody cares about sweden, I will point out that the Scandinavian penninsula is of extreme importance in a was with Russia.
The Norwegian coastline s as important now as it was to the Germans in WWII and russian control of Öresund would be strategically devastating to the Baltic countris as well as Finland.
Last edited:
How much of this relates to Stalin pushing the Ukraine borders west.
IIRC Kiev was the heart and soul of the Rus tribes before, for political reasons, some Czar decided to make a swamp called Moscow the Capitol.
There are thousands of years of history being Written/Unwritten in that region.
Shit this even brings Ghengis Khan into the present day.
Problem is that in USA we operate on 6 month memories.
Last edited:
Are you seriously claiming this is a US false flag operation to undermine Russia and that Norway, Denmark, Finland and Poland are all in on it? Getting these countries to agree on anything is virtually impossible.Now they even all have very similar boats Sweden ,Norway,US , Russia , you could literaly just switch the flag and at first glance you couldn't tell the difference.
These ships have been followed by fighters, aerial and Naval recon all the way down the Norwegian northern coast, through Öresund and up the swedish coast.
Nope as literally nothing is happening, just bunch of a alarmist reports feeding the MSM. But like said it would be easy enough to do everyone has a CB90 or a look alike .
Maybe its just Ivan doing it for kicks and giggles as everyone seems to be wetting themselves .
Meanwhile game of thrones is heating up
www.politico.eu
Maybe its just Ivan doing it for kicks and giggles as everyone seems to be wetting themselves .
Meanwhile game of thrones is heating up
Defiant Poroshenko vows to fight treason charges — and Russia
In interview, ex-president of Ukraine takes aim at Putin, and accuses Zelenskiy of plotting revenge.
www.politico.eu
Last edited:
Black, winged military drones with a wingspan over 6ft have been observed over nuclear powerplants, the royal palace and a large amusement park. These are russian drones and their purpose is likely to intimidate Sweden to discourage any thoughts of joining NATO much the same as the now departing landing craft.
Fuck NATO!
It's going to be the Globalists attempt to create a world military, starting with a Euro military first.
Stay neutral.
It's going to be the Globalists attempt to create a world military, starting with a Euro military first.
Stay neutral.
Discussions of an EU military force is something different than and independent of NATO.
There is no such thing as neutral. Swedens ”neutrality” in WWII resulted in them allowing german forces access to storage depots, full protected use of railroads for their campaign as well as providing them with steel and important industrial products such as ballbearings.
Joining NATO is the only thing that makes sense for Sweden and Finland. Last time I checked Norway and Denmark are doing fine despite joining the alliance.
Last edited:
NATO will take from you while giving nothing positive.
You will lose your money and free will for security that will likely abandon you in time of need.
Forced to fight globalist wars in shitholes while left abandoned for your own sovereign interests.
Get together with Finland and form the Nordic Pirate Army. Finland knows about killing communists while Sweden once ruled everything to their south down to about Crimea.
People die in your lands while you carry on. Let them come, bleed them white, your enemies will get killed by inumerable small cuts and the cold.
If you can get the Norwegians to think same protect yourself with icy barb wire and cuddle up with your native poon.
Get rid of those that NATO sent into your countries and won't assimilate.
If they won't wear Viking horns and drink mead they are your enemy.
You will lose your money and free will for security that will likely abandon you in time of need.
Forced to fight globalist wars in shitholes while left abandoned for your own sovereign interests.
Get together with Finland and form the Nordic Pirate Army. Finland knows about killing communists while Sweden once ruled everything to their south down to about Crimea.
People die in your lands while you carry on. Let them come, bleed them white, your enemies will get killed by inumerable small cuts and the cold.
If you can get the Norwegians to think same protect yourself with icy barb wire and cuddle up with your native poon.
Get rid of those that NATO sent into your countries and won't assimilate.
If they won't wear Viking horns and drink mead they are your enemy.
Last edited:
FYI, Finland and Sweden both sent troops to die in Iraq and Afghanistan. NATO is a mutual defence treaty only although some forces are wanting it to be something else.
I know that and the way it was fought it was one of those insane globalist wars you would have been better staying at home for.
Twenty years with the finest troops of all nations being wasted to keep the BS rolling.
August told us all we needed to know.
You're talking to a literal idiot with fantasies of intelligence and military knowledge.
Occasionally he drifts into my area of military knowledge and I destroy him.
Is that before or after sub hits a fucking rock episode ?And you really 'destroy' the story , that in the end turns out to be sub hitting a rock?
Last edited:
The afghan war, at the time, was likely the most justifiable war ever.
Everything up to the point of Tora Bora was indicating we were fighting to win......
Than it fell apart and its indefinable strategy meant it was just brilliant tactics with no aim other than maintaining contracts.
The Iraq BS was retarded and eroded any of the "good war" ideas of what we were doing in the mideast. It created more enemies while ensuring no security - except for Raytheon contractors.
In hindsight now....because of how crazy everything has become....9/11 conspiracy theorists almost make sense to me.
Is that before or after sub hits a fucking rock
You really want to discuss Submarine competency from your position?
NATO, the UN, the EU are all bad news and detrimental to the ideal of national sovereignty. Bukovsky even said that the EU was founded on the same ideals as the USSR.
And you are correct: Aside from arguing with Spain over who the "real" Goths are, the Swedes know all about invasions; they have a long history of invading everybody in northern and Eastern Europe. Most of Finland got it's genes from Sweden..... unwillingly. And hell, Russia? whole country of 146 million Slavs is named after a couple of reindeer-fucking Swedish vikings who took over the place in the 9th century. They've already had their identity stolen, it's enough. we should leave them alone.
Lets just say no Russian or Soviet invasion that we know of in past 100 or so years happened after 6 years of japing 24/7 about it on TV . Every occasion they deployed was under a veil of secrecy and was mostly a surprise when it happened. It happned like that in Poland,Hungary ,Czechoslovakia , Afghanistan, Georgia, Crimea even latest deployment to Kazakhstan happened fast after the call for aid , there were boots on the ground within 14hours, with 24h 80plane airlift .
Last edited:
Justifiable yes, good idea? No.
Any student of history and say Kipling will tell you that you cannot modernize and govern that region in a western way and a war there cannot truly be won unless you make it a desert and call it peace as said of Khan. But then even Khan failed in that region.
Hence I call the invasion a bad idea. Ever since the sucess of the rebuilding of Japan and Germany/ Austria modern leaders think they can be the brains of the next Marshall plan. It does not work with tribal xxxx holes.
On top of that, nearly all organized violent crime in scandinavia is now dominated by groups originating from the conflicts in the Balkans, Iraq, North Africa and Afghanistan. We shot ourselves in both feet and proceeded to cauterize the wounds with a flamethrower
Last edited:
wrong.
Our intent should never have been to hold territory.
Our war should have been one of manhunting and a punitive operation.
We were wildly succeeding until someone figured out if you killed the boogey man you can not use him to gin up fear and create more "opportunities".
So the plan was to let Bin Ladin go and we ended up with twenty years of death.
The strategic goal should have been simple -
"Locate the planners of the 9/11 attacks and capture or kill them. Destroy anyone that harbors or supports them in opposition to our effort. Success will be determined by the capture and killing of these specific named individuals (A, B, C, D etc). Upon completing the mission immediately withdraw from the region with the understanding any similar attacks on teh United States will not be met with a presence of military sources in country but from aerial, rocket, UAV, and including ICBM attacks in retaliation. The military is tasked with developing the tactics to achieve this strategic goal and any and all conventional tactics are approved to achieve the metric of success determined by the capture and killing of those named individuals above as well as anyone that chooses to harbor them or provide safe haven. Withdrawal shall be immediate and expeditious upon achieving the specific strategic goal without regard to what follows in the region as that is a matter for their people to decide. Our warning against future attacks is our message to them regards our expectation and intentions in the future. any humanitarian aid or missions accomplished in the course of our operations are incidental and true acts of good will but they are undertaken with the understanding their lot in life is of their singular choosing. It is not a goal of our strategic policy to build them into a nation of our choosing but only to present an opportunity to choose to be a nation of peaceful people. By law this strategic goal will not expand without legislative action. Our strategic goals have been determined to be achievable and limited at this time. They shall be abandoned if at any point they become verifaibly "unachievable" through requiring expansion of the war into adjacent regions with the drawing in of enemies other than those within the bounds of Afghanistan and the immediate border area where enemies may seek safe harbor"
Instead we got "Global war on Terror" - define the success of that. I would say there was a GWOT skirmish in Texas this weekend. How do you win that war?
Should've, would've, could've...
Fact of the matter is your overlords in the background have their own plans which are not 1:1 with official/public US policy. They enact those plans while employing smoke and mirrors to such extent even they are not always sure which way is up... The main issue in the world are not Slavs or Chinks and their world view but in fact western people loosing hardfought liberties and their willing surrender to the cabal that wants world domination. So if i were an American i would be more worried and upset about election fraud, importing illegals, voting without ID and mandating various terapies that at best do not work and at worst will kill you than about Ukies or where to put latest and greatest dual use containters so that we can vaporize that pesky Slavs in 8 minutes instead of 15.
Fact of the matter is your overlords in the background have their own plans which are not 1:1 with official/public US policy. They enact those plans while employing smoke and mirrors to such extent even they are not always sure which way is up... The main issue in the world are not Slavs or Chinks and their world view but in fact western people loosing hardfought liberties and their willing surrender to the cabal that wants world domination. So if i were an American i would be more worried and upset about election fraud, importing illegals, voting without ID and mandating various terapies that at best do not work and at worst will kill you than about Ukies or where to put latest and greatest dual use containters so that we can vaporize that pesky Slavs in 8 minutes instead of 15.
I agree that the this wag the dog war is a stupid idea but let’s not start singing Putin’s praises, a career spook who rose to power in the wake of an extremely questionable terrorist attack that reeked of a false flag op. It’s amazing to me how people are still reaching out to find someone to cheer for.
From what i can tell browsing Russian language forums ,Vlad is not seen as stong or brilliant in Russia , many actually view him as soft and undecisive , being naive and easily taken advantage over (they have bunch of grievances over financing all of the Russian periphery for little to no return) , by both the allies and foes alike, quite interesting the opinion is that next 'vladimir' will likely be much more hawkish.
As for Putin's ascent to power it was not accidental and unplanned, he was groomed to take over well before Chechniya actually happened i would think that is just a point where he outmaneuvered the puppeteers that taught they could control him, same just happened in Kazakhstan. Him being carrer spook is always presented as derogatory by folk that don't understand how things worked behind the Iron curtain in non-market economy.
KGB sucked up the best in the talent pool in Sovet Union , in the past Russians always complained that the economy and industry are suffering because best and brightest end up working for KGB instead in the economy. If you wanted the best you got ex-company men not comunty organisers, you have to separate a bit fact from propaganda.
I good reads on the theme ,things are not qute as simple as you would think.
The Key to Understanding Vladimir Putin
It is common to ascribe America’s growing difficulties with Russia to President Vladimir Putin personally, but the sources of Russian discontent predate Putin’s presidency.
nationalinterest.org
Last edited:
that guy,( @Mr.BR ) is a complete dumbass. dont let any dogshit coming out of his mouth affect you. everybody knows what a shithead he is, and no one takes his dumb ass seriously. i seriously think the is competing with potatohead joe for the “braindead man of the year” award.We actually had a soviet whiskey class sub, armed with nuclear weapons in the upper torpedo tubes, run aground nearly resulting in armed conflict to free the sub. Soviet aggression is well documented and only denied by card carrying members of the swedish communist party (V, formerly VpK)
U 137 – dagarna när Sverige var på randen till krig
För 40 år sedan, natten till den 28 oktober 1981, går en sovjetisk ubåt av Whiskey-klass på grund vid Gåsefjärden i skärgården utanför Karlskrona. Här är historien om vad som hände.
So just maybe being 30 minutes from open armed conflict with the soviet union over them being caught with nuclear weapons right off a major naval base has more to do with the rise in public perception of a soviet threat 1980-83 than your weak quote? This incident happened in 81.
Thunander is debunked and considered a conspiracy theorist. Most likely one of many soviet Humint assets in the far left academic sphere.
The anti nuclear, anti american ”peace movement” he is a part of was a product of Soviet Humint and was like the communist party even partially funded by covert Soviet subsidiaries.
Hard to explain an actual russian sub with nukes onboard as a ”CIA covert action” , not to mention the soviet special operations unit that was scheduled to free the sub by force at 0300, 30 minutes out at 0230
Imagine the soviet union being caught with a stranded sub 250km from New York or LA (copenhagen is 250) or 450km (stockholm) 20km from a major naval base.
As for the above claim that nobody cares about sweden, I will point out that the Scandinavian penninsula is of extreme importance in a was with Russia.
The Norwegian coastline s as important now as it was to the Germans in WWII and russian control of Öresund would be strategically devastating to the Baltic countris as well as Finland.
Last edited:
How many trillions spent after 9/11 and our 20 year war? Dems are going to blow through that much money in 2 years fighting "covid".
Not sure how much of a cut the 'big guys' are getting.. probably similar.
Not sure how much of a cut the 'big guys' are getting.. probably similar.
I trust the Russian English language news outlets more than our own corporate/leftist/Democrat mouthpieces like CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, etc.
I don't view Russia as our enemy, especially if our media says they are. And I can't really fault them for not wanting a NATO country on their doorstep. I imagine if China or Russia wanted to set up bases in Mexico or Canada, we'd have something to say about it.
I don't view Russia as our enemy, especially if our media says they are. And I can't really fault them for not wanting a NATO country on their doorstep. I imagine if China or Russia wanted to set up bases in Mexico or Canada, we'd have something to say about it.
- Status
