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Is something going on in Ukraine?
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For Russian and Ukrainian stuff, you mostly have to use either VK or Telegram,
I haven't seen any new developments in terms of fighting on the frontlines, occasional shelling here and there but nothing that would get folks excited.
Most of the excitement is in regards to Ukrainian game of thrones ,as former president with a warrant on his head returned to Ukraine, there is a power struggle at play and comedian - president is barely hanging on , in case of tail wagging the dog the US actually imposed sanctions against some of his opposition again as it has done a couple of times before , trying top keep the puppet in power, under a guise of anti Russian sanctions .
I haven't seen any new developments in terms of fighting on the frontlines, occasional shelling here and there but nothing that would get folks excited.
Most of the excitement is in regards to Ukrainian game of thrones ,as former president with a warrant on his head returned to Ukraine, there is a power struggle at play and comedian - president is barely hanging on , in case of tail wagging the dog the US actually imposed sanctions against some of his opposition again as it has done a couple of times before , trying top keep the puppet in power, under a guise of anti Russian sanctions .
Well the Democrats have made inroads into a political and business coup in Ukraine all while painting Russia as the aggressor. The US IMO has provoked a reaction.
While I hate Biden and do not agree with what they have done/are doing. It is pretty ballsy.
Remember they are using the same tactics here at home to hold the reign, as they use in these overseas power grabs. When Trump started investigations, they went 100% bullshit impeachment... when joe openly admitting to with holding billions. Then they elected him. Complete fucking hypocrisy
"Calm" before the storm?
Also, Russians appear to be moving a significant amphibious assault group towards Black Sea / Crimea, upwards of a brigade combat group:
More Russian Landing Ships Leave The Baltic Sea Amid Growing Fears Of Invasion Of Ukraine
Six Russian amphibious warfare ships have left the Baltic Sea in the last two days.
www.thedrive.com
Danes and Swedes are tracking this force, but NATO will allow these ships freedom of navigation all the way to the shores of Odessa.
Belarus is one large assemble area for Russian armor as well.
We might again see the unthinkable: a major ground war in Europe. Defending against three fronts - Donbas, Belarus and Crimea - Urkaine might fight valiantly but vainly.
Damn, God Damn.
So Hunter can make millions supporting his crack/hooker habit. No thanks!
Serious question -
would Russians be doing this with Trump in office?
would Trump more aggressively push military assets (ATGMs, SAMs, etc) into, or even try and push a NATO Rapid Response Group east of Vistula River?
would Russians be doing this with Trump in office?
would Trump more aggressively push military assets (ATGMs, SAMs, etc) into, or even try and push a NATO Rapid Response Group east of Vistula River?
Not bashing or defending any hide patron but------
No one out stupids our sitting commander in chief.
Problem is Russia and China are wise to the blatant display of incompetence and are keyed to take advantage of it.
Putin would have been removed long ago.
But in our stupidity as a country in whole, joe is still on the clock wrecking the place and getting paid.
Nordstream2 would be built with or without Trump, as the only thing left to sanction was the Germans, as Russians finished the gas line themselves while under sanctions. End of the day even the exisiting Ukrainian pipeline was build with Germans in mid of cold war while they were still enemies looking at each other through the gunsights and Berlin wall was still standing. US tried to sanction then and it ultimately failed.
In any case, the logic for why Northstream 2 is super bad is basically because Poles and Ukraine don't get ,a cut on gas Germans buy. Russian gas is ok as long as German consumers pay Ukraine 3 billion a year for transit.They are not buying more because they can bypass Ukraine they will just be buying it cheaper.
In the end if you are so concerned about Ukraine you can wire them 3billion$ each year if it makes you feel better. I am sure they will get Brandon 10% and Hunter endless supplies of hookers and blow.
Only new development on the ground seems anticipation of 'false flag'on both sides. ,Bulletin issued in Donetsk.(google translate)
''The military-political leadership of Ukraine does not leave attempts to destabilize the situation on the territory of the Republic.
Intelligence of the People's Militia of the DPR received reliable data on the preparation by the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the JFO zone of acts of sabotage on the territory of the People's Republics near the line of contact between the parties. The commander of the special operations forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Major General Galagan, gave instructions to the 8th special forces regiment to prepare and carry out these terrorist attacks.
According to reports, life support facilities of the cities of Gorlovka, Yasinovataya, Donetsk, Dokuchaevsk and other settlements located in close proximity to the contact line will be hit. The primary goals are transformer substations, water and gas pipelines, power lines. In the future, it is planned to carry out a number of terrorist attacks on industrial facilities with hazardous chemical production.
These actions are planned to be carried out under the guise of military personnel of the People's Militia of the DPR and special operations forces of the armed forces of the Russian Federation. All actions of Ukrainian saboteurs will be recorded on video with subsequent presentation as evidence in international organizations.
In order to implement the above scenario, six sabotage groups have been formed in the 8th Special Purpose Regiment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. They were trained by British specialists.
After the sabotage, the forces of information and psychological operations will distribute video materials of interrogations of servicemen of the People's Militia who allegedly went over to the side of Ukraine, which will confirm the participation of Russian special operations forces in terrorist acts in the territories of the Republics.
The main goals of these provocations are to accuse the Russian Federation of creating pretexts for unleashing aggression against Ukraine, destabilizing the situation on the line of contact and creating panic among residents of border settlements.
This will be used by the Ukrainian political leadership to subsequently accuse Russia of aggressive actions against Ukraine.
We call on the public and international monitoring organizations to pay close attention to the impending criminal actions of the Ukrainian side.
In the current situation, the People's Militia of the DPR is taking a set of measures to strengthen the security and defense of dangerous and socially important facilities.
The command of the People's Militia appeals to the citizens of the republic with a request to be vigilant. Report all suspicious persons and their actions to emergency services, military commandant's offices or local law enforcement agencies by calling xxxxxx,xxxxxxxxx,xxxxxx ''
In any case, the logic for why Northstream 2 is super bad is basically because Poles and Ukraine don't get ,a cut on gas Germans buy. Russian gas is ok as long as German consumers pay Ukraine 3 billion a year for transit.They are not buying more because they can bypass Ukraine they will just be buying it cheaper.
In the end if you are so concerned about Ukraine you can wire them 3billion$ each year if it makes you feel better. I am sure they will get Brandon 10% and Hunter endless supplies of hookers and blow.
Only new development on the ground seems anticipation of 'false flag'on both sides. ,Bulletin issued in Donetsk.(google translate)
''The military-political leadership of Ukraine does not leave attempts to destabilize the situation on the territory of the Republic.
Intelligence of the People's Militia of the DPR received reliable data on the preparation by the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the JFO zone of acts of sabotage on the territory of the People's Republics near the line of contact between the parties. The commander of the special operations forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Major General Galagan, gave instructions to the 8th special forces regiment to prepare and carry out these terrorist attacks.
According to reports, life support facilities of the cities of Gorlovka, Yasinovataya, Donetsk, Dokuchaevsk and other settlements located in close proximity to the contact line will be hit. The primary goals are transformer substations, water and gas pipelines, power lines. In the future, it is planned to carry out a number of terrorist attacks on industrial facilities with hazardous chemical production.
These actions are planned to be carried out under the guise of military personnel of the People's Militia of the DPR and special operations forces of the armed forces of the Russian Federation. All actions of Ukrainian saboteurs will be recorded on video with subsequent presentation as evidence in international organizations.
In order to implement the above scenario, six sabotage groups have been formed in the 8th Special Purpose Regiment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. They were trained by British specialists.
After the sabotage, the forces of information and psychological operations will distribute video materials of interrogations of servicemen of the People's Militia who allegedly went over to the side of Ukraine, which will confirm the participation of Russian special operations forces in terrorist acts in the territories of the Republics.
The main goals of these provocations are to accuse the Russian Federation of creating pretexts for unleashing aggression against Ukraine, destabilizing the situation on the line of contact and creating panic among residents of border settlements.
This will be used by the Ukrainian political leadership to subsequently accuse Russia of aggressive actions against Ukraine.
We call on the public and international monitoring organizations to pay close attention to the impending criminal actions of the Ukrainian side.
In the current situation, the People's Militia of the DPR is taking a set of measures to strengthen the security and defense of dangerous and socially important facilities.
The command of the People's Militia appeals to the citizens of the republic with a request to be vigilant. Report all suspicious persons and their actions to emergency services, military commandant's offices or local law enforcement agencies by calling xxxxxx,xxxxxxxxx,xxxxxx ''
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Just a taste of what Hunter was doing everyday after lunch...... Surprised they didn't dock his pay for fucking off......
I guarantee you that the overwhelming majority of Americans don't give a fiddler's fuck about Ukraine or any Slavs.
What you see in our press and in the foreign press about is not what is really happening here.
I wish I hadn’t just read Red Metal."Calm" before the storm?
Also, Russians appear to be moving a significant amphibious assault group towards Black Sea / Crimea, upwards of a brigade combat group:
More Russian Landing Ships Leave The Baltic Sea Amid Growing Fears Of Invasion Of Ukraine
Six Russian amphibious warfare ships have left the Baltic Sea in the last two days.
Danes and Swedes are tracking this force, but NATO will allow these ships freedom of navigation all the way to the shores of Odessa.
Belarus is one large assemble area for Russian armor as well.
We might again see the unthinkable: a major ground war in Europe. Defending against three fronts - Donbas, Belarus and Crimea - Urkaine might fight valiantly but vainly.
Damn, God Damn.
Correct me if I am mistaken. But does the Biden family not have sizable... call them "investments" in Ukraine? Is that not what Hunter and Burisma Oil/Gas was about? I can imagine that falling apart if Russia invades. I then could imagine the Biden family wanting to protect those investments? Just a guess.
Our MSM Pravda can paint it any way they like, but we have more than our fair share of problems stateside.
www.westernjournal.com
Our MSM Pravda can paint it any way they like, but we have more than our fair share of problems stateside.
Just-Released Email Shows Hunter Biden Introduced Joe to Burisma Exec.
A new email reveals Hunter Biden introduced a Ukrainian businessman to his father while Joe Biden was vice president.
www.westernjournal.com
Correct me if I am mistaken. But does the Biden family not have sizable... call them "investments" in Ukraine? Is that not what Hunter and Burisma Oil/Gas was about? I can imagine that falling apart if Russia invades. I then could imagine the Biden family wanting to protect those investments? Just a guess.
Our MSM Pravda can paint it any way they like, but we have more than our fair share of problems stateside.
Just-Released Email Shows Hunter Biden Introduced Joe to Burisma Exec.
A new email reveals Hunter Biden introduced a Ukrainian businessman to his father while Joe Biden was vice president.
there has been a focus on Hunter as the scumbag that he is, and for his "business" dealings. he may know how to cut a kickback for himself, but I guarantee the business brains and shenanigans are being mastermind' by Uncle Frank Biden. He's the one laundering money for Joe, hiding the intakes and outlfows. He's a high powered lawyer and hes not filming himself smoking crack with a hooker.
Go after Frank hard and you'll find the lines to Joe Biden and who has bought him off.
Follow the money:
Russian stocks tumbled on Tuesday by their most in nearly two years and the rouble came under further selling pressure on mounting fears Moscow may be planning a renewed invasion of Ukraine. The Moex index fell by 6.5 per cent, taking its losses to about 13 per cent over the past four trading sessions, while Russian government debt continued to slide. The dollar-denominated RTS index fell 7.3 per cent, hitting its lowest level since late 2020. “We are seeing dislocations in the pricing of rock solid fundamental stocks, as certain western investors are exiting Russia at ‘any price’. The pain looks to continue into the days to come,” said Luis Saenz, head of international distribution at Sinara Financial Corporation.
www.ft.com
Russian stocks tumbled on Tuesday by their most in nearly two years and the rouble came under further selling pressure on mounting fears Moscow may be planning a renewed invasion of Ukraine. The Moex index fell by 6.5 per cent, taking its losses to about 13 per cent over the past four trading sessions, while Russian government debt continued to slide. The dollar-denominated RTS index fell 7.3 per cent, hitting its lowest level since late 2020. “We are seeing dislocations in the pricing of rock solid fundamental stocks, as certain western investors are exiting Russia at ‘any price’. The pain looks to continue into the days to come,” said Luis Saenz, head of international distribution at Sinara Financial Corporation.
Russian stocks take biggest tumble since March 2020
Moex index falls 13% over past four trading days on fears of Moscow invasion of Ukraine
www.ft.com
And oil at over $85/barrel today. Helps Russia a bunch and fucks us the USA largely because of potato heads policy. Build the fucking Keystone pipeline and Drill, baby, Drill!!!
We were energy independent under Trump, but hey, orange man bad. How's that working out for y'all libs at the fucking gas pump and your home heating bills??
We were energy independent under Trump, but hey, orange man bad. How's that working out for y'all libs at the fucking gas pump and your home heating bills??
"a year of enormous progress" On what metric? NOPE!
"created more jobs then any previous time in history" On what metric? I believe more people have been fired this year then any previous year in American history due to mandates! So are those the job openings he's lying about? Probably!
So... "cut oil imports and production" so we can have lower oil and gas prices later???? WTF! seriously WTF! Dipshit school of economics!
Who believes any of this clown show, the Emperor has no clothes on!
Or Clancy's Red Storm Rising nearly 40 yrs ago.
I just can't believe we are staring at a ground war in Europe between two nation states (applying very loose definitions of the term to the two 'loser' nations involved here).
Is the world really so insecure that Putin thinks he can win this thing? Maybe he thinks he won in Georgia and Crimea and this 'exercise' in Ukraine will be equally easy...
I see "the world" as very insecure... I have no idea what Putin is thinking. I'm sure we will find out soon enough.
Sun Tzu - When the light chariots come out first and take up a position on the wings, it is a sign that the enemy is forming for battle.
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decent graphic of potential Russian advance axis and force structures. This is nearly 2 month old intel but its useful nonetheless. Urkaine is hard-pressed, defending on this many fronts, including helo- and sea-borne threats. F'cking Belarus, exposing Kiev like Achilles' heel. Also note Kharkov is again at the center of a giant encirclement, a situation I'm sure it remembers well from '42-'43.
Written by Greaney and retired recon officer Lieutenant Colonel Hunter Ripley Rawlings USMC.
Very realistic take on a modern all out war started by Russia.
I watch it for 2 minutes and changed the channel I felt stupid closing in on me. How can anyone with a brain even watch that fool read answers out of a book to the questions that were submitted to be asked from the press. I rather listen to Putin as he tells everyone how he will take over the world because he can in his own words off the cuff.
Weak leadership due to change in Germany, weak in the US, the traditionally anti american, anti nukes anti NATO labour parties lead all scandinavian countries and the current NATO leader is a former Labour party leader that used to be very vocally anti NATO until they offered him this nice job. He is an absolute douche who has never held a job outside politics and never served. On top of that we have covid, an energy crisis making us dependent on russian gas after sweden and germany in a panic shut down numerous nuclear power plants. A perfect stage set for Putin to do his thing.
From what i can tell browsing Russian language forums ,Vlad is not seen as stong or brilliant in Russia , many actually view him as soft and undecisive , being naive and easily taken advantage over (they have bunch of grievances over financing all of the Russian periphery for little to no return) , by both the allies and foes alike, quite interesting the opinion is that next 'vladimir' will likely be much more hawkish.
As for Putin's ascent to power it was not accidental and unplanned, he was groomed to take over well before Chechniya actually happened i would think that is just a point where he outmaneuvered the puppeteers that taught they could control him, same just happened in Kazakhstan. Him being carrer spook is always presented as derogatory by folk that don't understand how things worked behind the Iron curtain in non-market economy.
KGB sucked up the best in the talent pool in Sovet Union , in the past Russians always complained that the economy and industry are suffering because best and brightest end up working for KGB instead in the economy. If you wanted the best you got ex-company men not comunty organisers, you have to separate a bit fact from propaganda.
I good reads on the theme ,things are not qute as simple as you would think.
https://unherd.com/2022/01/what-the-west-gets-wrong-about-putin/
The Key to Understanding Vladimir Putin
It is common to ascribe America’s growing difficulties with Russia to President Vladimir Putin personally, but the sources of Russian discontent predate Putin’s presidency.nationalinterest.org
decent graphic of potential Russian advance axis and force structures. This is nearly 2 month old intel but its useful nonetheless. Urkaine is hard-pressed, defending on this many fronts, including helo- and sea-borne threats. F'cking Belarus, exposing Kiev like Achilles' heel. Also note Kharkov is again at the center of a giant encirclement, a situation I'm sure it remembers well from '42-'43.
Betcha 50 bucks nothing happens in 2022
The Perfect Storm would be when the weather warmed a bit. March - 29 at night and 42 daytime high.
Posted somewhere else that you only needed to read the 1st few chapters of red storm rising to see what's going on now.
Absolutely. Putin is well aware of the “broken reed” that the US is right now. It’s time to gamble big, because Biden’s crew are navel gazing pussies at best.
Putin is trying to find out if CRT and Gender Reassignment is a code name for some secret weapon or attack plan.......
To answer the OP question, Easy Peasy.
Occam's Razor.
When in doubt, follow the money.
With Iraq and Afghanistan over the weapons makers need a new source for revenue. Why do you think Bidet left all that shit in AStan? Now it needs to be replaced.
Occam's Razor.
When in doubt, follow the money.
With Iraq and Afghanistan over the weapons makers need a new source for revenue. Why do you think Bidet left all that shit in AStan? Now it needs to be replaced.
If any of you have Instagram accounts go look at Forward Observations stories today. They're reporting heavy conflict with casualties everyday between Russia and Ukraine.
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Boy-o-boy! you fucking got that right! From a world leader to dog shit!
So let's ask this question! If Mexico had joined some union with the CCP or Russia, would that not be a threat to the USA? And how the fuck is Ukraine being forced to join NATO by the US, not a threat to Russia? Just playing devils advocate!
More devils advocate: If I was Putin and sensed America was at it's weakest because of the Biden admin, I too would do as much shit as I could to serve myself and country. This just makes sense. Just like a Taiwan invasion, all the same.
Youre right BUT...
Aside from Chinkland's huge manpower, their combined military isnt a match for ours. Fuck, the GDP of Russia is smaller than Texas' GDP. Chinkland has the second GDP but how many (real) carriers do they have? Now many of those are Nuke powered?
Our shit works. The Brit shit works. The German and French shit works.
Fuck the Commies.
Sure, this is true, from a military perspective we reign supreme. However from a leadership perspective we are very very weak. So we have the most powerful Pawns, Knights, and Rooks, but our King and his Bishops are total fucking dip-shits! So a craftier nation could see that as a strategic advantage. I realize as well, the CCP is a paper tiger..at the moment..for now... But once again do not underestimate the sheer incompetence of this administration. Putin is counting on it, as well as Xi-Ping.
When your administrations polices are failing and your approval rating plummets the country is coming apart?
Traditionally that's when you start shit with a foreign entity to divert the sheep's attention and give them a cause.
Traditionally that's when you start shit with a foreign entity to divert the sheep's attention and give them a cause.
There's no way to tell but you have to figure that 99% of the same people at the Pentagon right now would be there under Trump as well so the machinery and the strategies/advice would be the same. I think he would act a lot tougher though, particularly in regards to troop buildups, and probably try to coordinate some sort of force in Europe.
That's what I think too. Launch enough missiles so that McCain's corpse gets a boner.
Interesting perspective. After watching Biden's news conference yesterday his leadership abilities appears to be dwindling. As I watched, I asked myself "Would I follow this man into a battle with Putin's solders?"....
these dumb motherfuckers are hellbent on starting some bullshit war that no one needs or wants.
i sure hope Putin knows how most thinking americans feel about this. it is tempting to get worked up over it; but i am sure it is all part of God’s plan.
i feel like a member of “the league of shadows” anymore. i love my country, but damn it. the crooked son of a bitches have NO fucking honor.
i sure hope Putin knows how most thinking americans feel about this. it is tempting to get worked up over it; but i am sure it is all part of God’s plan.
i feel like a member of “the league of shadows” anymore. i love my country, but damn it. the crooked son of a bitches have NO fucking honor.
So true only time MSM cheered for Trump was he bombed Syria , based on a false flag chemical attack in Douma that was staged by some moderate beheaders.
And only time Brandon really got lots of flak was when he ordered a withdrawal from Afghanistan. Warmongering is bipartisan and media is always on board. There is no single case where they were against it.
Absolute disaster for democratic party in upcoming elections is plenty of motive to play tough and ratchet things up ,all it takes is MSM on board to generate whatever narrative you want.
Wasn't Trumps top generals committing treason behind his back and tell China that they wouldn't follow any orders that went against them?
Media was getting orgasmic when they thought Trump was going to bomb the hell out of Iran. Then he didn't. Then Iran shot down it's own passenger jet.
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