k, you guys ready for something else?
I think American 'help' will actually make things worse in the long run for Ukraine. It will also make things way worse for Americans and pretty much everyone else. We need to stay away from it, but not because we want the Russians to take over Ukraine. Instead, Ukraine has a chance at 'winning' this conflict by bleeding the Russians and turning this into another Afghanistan.
- If the US sends troops and/or gets involved as a direct ally, the method of warfare changes and it is nothing like the way Ukraine has set up their defenses or organized their forces. It will change it into either an 'assisted' war (think Vietnam) or where the US ends up on the fence with a dilemma between just saying fuck it and leaving (again! within months of Afghanistan) or having to double down. This is a lose/lose situation that makes Afghanistan look like a masterclass.
- Why do we even want to fight the Russians? I mean yeah, you faggots don't need to invade Ukraine and shit but it really has little bearing on anyone here. We just got done literally stabbing ourselves in the dick in Afghanistan. We're not up for this from a logistical, strategic, financial or public support standpoint. Everyone knows this and the Russians would prolong it to a point to where it bankrupts us in more ways than one.
- If we let Ukraine fight the way they are planning to, the war will have multiple phases. The initial phase will see Russians, albeit with decent loses, taking large areas. Ukraine will refocus its efforts on a mix of insurgent and conventional warfare while concentrating defensive forces to hold their strategic positions/areas. This then slowly turns into Russia's war to lose, that is not won, or being close to being won, in the timeframe all of them were told it was going to be over in. Russia ends up fighting insurgents not only from Ukraine, but from other eastern Bloc countries; this basically turns into what the US forces saw with fighters coming over from Iran and other countries to fight and resupply the effort. Russia may 'own' larger cities, but they feel more and more surrounded by the unknown by the day. This is why the US should not get involved; they would deter this entire chain of events.
- This type of fighting, especially if prepared for correctly, can easily make the Russians overplay their hands as well as become 'too violent' and make big mistakes. The 'humanitarian' side of things partnered with Russia's shrinking time line will wear on them with each day. They will need to leave and the pressure to do so from both internal and external places, grows daily.
- All Ukraine has to do is to not lose, in order to win. This isn't Georgia. They have been preparing defensive lines for this for years now and have experience dealing with this. On top of that, their entire populace is onboard with 'fuck Russia'.
Leave Ukraine alone. It's going to look like the first few days of the 'Shock and Awe' campaign and everyone will think Russia has this in the bag. Then it just keeps.....going...on.......still...going....what....still going....until it starts to look like Afghanistan before the surge.
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